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Episode 6x16 / Re: Unnecessary Escape...
« on: May 27, 2010, 05:15:06 PM »
Kate and Claire get to raise AAron

This is why the plane escaping was necessary.

Episode 6x16 / Re: Why was the island underwater in the Alt.?
« on: May 24, 2010, 04:33:33 PM »
I believe that The Island is shown at the bottom of the ocean so that the viewer can understand that it did exist up until the 70's (because you can see DHARMA hardware).

That way we realize that the Linus family was there and everything else prior to The Incident was roughly equivalent.  I think we're supposed to assume that the bomb sunk it, but the cause is really irrelevant.  Just know that it existed at some point in the ATL prior to 815 landing safely.

Episode 6x16 / Re: "Purgatory" Anyone?
« on: May 24, 2010, 01:03:15 PM »
The Island is not Purgatory.

The ATL is.

Episode 6x16 / Re: So were there any survivors of 815?
« on: May 24, 2010, 01:01:49 PM »
Many people misunderstand this, and it makes the difference between a good ending and a bad one.

To be clear...the wreckage over the credits does not imply that everyone died in the crash.  There are footprints in the sand walking away.

Everything in the show really happened
...except what was shown in the Alternate Reality, which was a kind of purgatory.

Everyone died in their own time, as depicted in the show.  Libby died early on, Jack died at the end of  the finale, Hurley and Ben ruled The Island for an indeterminate period of time, and Kate, Sawyer et al flew off to live back in the World for an indeterminate period of time.  They all meet together in the church at the same "time" because it's a place where time doesn't pass.

Ben is hanging out in purgatory because he still has some things to work out.  He may want to spend time with Rousseau and Alex, who themselves are not "invited" because they were never part of the clique.  This clique is a group who meet in this communally constructed "heaven" because of the bond they formed on The Island..which was REAL.

Michael is not there because, as he told Hurley as a ghost in "Everybody Loves Hugo":

HURLEY: You're stuck on the Island aren't you?

MICHAEL: [nodding] 'Cause of what I did.

HURLEY: And...there're others out here like you, aren't there? That's what the whispers are?

MICHAEL: Yeah. We're the ones who can't move on.

Presumably, this goes for Mr Eko too, although the reality is probably actor/ego related rather than it being written that way.

Episode 6x16 / Re: The stained glass at the church
« on: May 24, 2010, 08:14:09 AM »
That was pretty heavy handed.

"In case you didn't notice the various objects of multiple faiths throughout the "church", here's a window to make it obvious that we're trying to represent diversity"

Speaking of diversity, noticably missing from "heaven": Eko, Michael, Walt.

Season 6 / Re: Too damn funny to not post
« on: May 21, 2010, 05:00:03 PM »
Funny mug shot:

Episode 6x15 / Re: Questions That I Doubt Will be Answered
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:58:59 PM »
I don't think that the Black Rock journal was key to finding The Island or solving mysteries or anything.  I think Widmore (who already knew how to find it and knew much more about it than some primitive sailor) wanted it for two reasons: as a relic, and to keep it out of the hands of outsiders.

DHARMA people were closer to MiB (meddlers with The Island's powers, technology, exploiters, Men Of Science) and The Other were closer to Jacob (primitive, low-impact living, taking indirect orders from Jacob, "Templers" (sic), believers, Men Of Faith).  Of course, each player had men in the others' camp, but in general, DHARMA was in bed with Smokey.  Doing away with all of these meddlers (once any potential candidates were given a chance for redemption) would serve Jacob's cause.

Kelvin (and other aspects of DHARMA) carried on after The Purge probably because they were hidden.  Other aspects (like The Flame) were co-opted by The Others.  If TPTB don't explain the pallet drop, for me it will be one of the biggest non-critical-to-the-show disappointments for unexplained events.

I feel pretty satisfied with what's been explained so far VS what I am able to piece together/speculate myself VS what is completely unexplained.

Episode 6x15 / Re: Now you're like me
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:41:55 PM »
Perhaps it is Jack's game now.

Maybe whoever is in charge of The Island is granted powers beyond what we've seen Jacob exercise, and any limitations are part of The Game.

I doubt that MiB would be willing to strike up a new game with Jack, and Jack would be foolish to take on someone who's been playing The Game for centuries.

Episode 6x15 / Re: 20 questions with Jacob....
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:24:09 PM »
I know that occasionally they do get it right when they do the movie thing to TV shows (Serentity for Firefly is the main example I have), but more often they screw everything up because they have this big budget and just make the show seem tacky.

You're right that it almost always goes bad and X-Files is a great example of doing it wrong.

Star Trek is an example of doing it right.

Episode 6x15 / Re: Jack's ascension?
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:17:48 PM »
That is the assumption that a lot of people seem to be making.

At the time, I didn't think so...but I guess I will have to go with the flow on this one.

Episode 6x15 / Re: Now you're like me
« on: May 19, 2010, 12:05:58 PM »
MiB couldn't directly kill Jacob because their "mother" made it that way.

MiB couldn't directly kill candidates because that was a rule of the Jacob/MiB game.

I say all bets are off now, because Jack is not protected by the mommy rule and the others aren't technically candidates anymore.  Also, MiB was supposedly stuck with Locke's face because Jacob was dead.  Now that there's another (Jack) just like him (Jacob), maybe that rule is off, too.

Episode 6x15 / Re: 20 questions with Jacob....
« on: May 19, 2010, 11:55:19 AM »
Yes.  Rather than give a dissatisfying explanation, leave it to the individual viewer to speculate.

Like song lyrics.  It usually sucks when the author explains their meaning, compared to what I THOUGHT they meant.

Episode 6x15 / Re: Did Richard get Boba Fett-ed from LOST???!?!!
« on: May 19, 2010, 11:51:52 AM »
RICHARD: I want my wife back.

JACOB: Can't do that.

RICHARD: Can you absolve me of my sins so I don't go to Hell?

JACOB: I can't do that either.

RICHARD: I never want to die. I want to live forever.

JACOB: Now that...

[He touches Richard's shoulder.]

JACOB: ...I can do.

Episode 6x15 / Re: 20 questions with Jacob....
« on: May 19, 2010, 11:40:23 AM »
The Monster is everything evil and dark (Opposite of what the Light is) manifested into physical form.

This is speculative.

First, I want to say that the cross examination at the campfire DID reveal important information.

For one, being marked off the list doesn't mean you were killed or somehow failed (necessarily).  Jacob crossed out Kate because she was a mom and would therefore be reluctant to take on the role of Benevolent Dictator For Life.

Also, they were brought to The Island because they were flawed and would therefore be more likely to take on the role. 

What more important question is there than "Why are we here?"

I don't think Jacob knows anything more about the smoke monster than we, or the characters present at the campfire, know.  Nor does he know about the origin of The Island.  This goes toward explaining the previous episode to those people who were so disappointed with its lack of revelation.  Rather than present some vast origin story where the aliens come down or Atlantis or some B.S. that would be unacceptable, they just leave it a mystery for both the audience and the most informed character, Jacob.

Episode 6x15 / Re: Hurley and Desmond have complete island memory
« on: May 19, 2010, 11:26:42 AM »
Desmond is the key to Alt-world travel, as we've seen since "Flashes Before Your Eyes".  Alt-Hurley's caught on his Island life, but the others will follow along soon enough.

Perhaps MiB will use Desmond to put himself in the Alt-world where The Island has sunk...even if the other characters don't want to go along with the deal.

Although I think that Desmond's value will be that he will be unaffected by The Light.

Perhaps he can enter the cave and turn it off?

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