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Episode 6x12 / Re: Best Lines of the Night
« on: April 21, 2010, 12:46:40 PM »
What did Sawyer call Frank on the boat? Sounded like "Chesty" or something. Anyone help me out?
Yeah, it was Chesty. I laughed pretty hard on that one.

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Help me out. Who is Chesty?
Chesty is Lapedis, the pilot.  Very furry chest.

Episode 6x11 / Re: is desmond dead ?
« on: April 14, 2010, 01:41:16 PM »
Im thinking Des and Sayid have a long chat and Sayid pulls him out. Sayid has to have some sort of reawakening for that to happen though. Perhaps Des makes Sayid doubt the motives of MIB.
I think Sayid will doubt Locke for throwing Desmond down the well.  So far Sayid only killed people he didn't really know.  Desmond may be able to convince Sayid to smarten up.

Episode 6x11 / Re: Desmond and the well, and...
« on: April 14, 2010, 01:38:55 PM »
It's funny you mention this, I just had the same conversation with a friend. I personally believe that Desmond is aware of both timelines in both timelines, and it would be AWESOME if Desmond ran over Locke out of spite for throwing him down the well, but I think that it is actually just to get him to see Jack at the hospital. Either the damage will need to be looked at by a specialist, or perhaps for some reason Locke will now be able to walk, and will want to talk to Jack about how it's possible. But either way, I think this is all leading to Locke talking to Jack.

As for whether or not it's the same well, I don't think so, only because the well we saw Locke go into had that whole setup around it for lowering in a bucket or what have you. Also, didn't he say to Desmond last night that it wasn't the only well on the island??

I don't get the feeling there is anything that ties Desmond to Christian's appearances on the island, but you might be right. I usually don't believe anything that Locke has been saying lately, but this much seemed true. Plus, when he dropped the torch into the well, to me it sounded like it hit some water at the bottom, not alot, but enough to make a splash and put out the torch. The well where Locke fell and turned the wheel didn't have any water.
Desmond is definately aware of 2 realities.  He saw it.  He saw it in both realities and remembered both.

Community Lounge / Re: The Hello and Good bye spot
« on: April 13, 2010, 01:15:07 PM »

Episode 6x10 / Re: Amazing episode
« on: April 07, 2010, 01:41:38 PM »
AWESOME episode!  One of the best.  Loved Desmond's evil grin.

Community Lounge / Re: The Maniacal Alphabet Game
« on: April 02, 2010, 09:52:57 PM »
You Men.  What are we to do with you?

Community Lounge / Re: The Hello and Good bye spot
« on: April 02, 2010, 09:46:33 PM »
AWESOME.  All the old names I lost touch with.  Have fun

Community Lounge / Re: The never ending word association game
« on: April 02, 2010, 09:44:39 PM »

Hi I'm Floyd.  Been around in the past, I 'm a gonna come back to visit more often.  ;) ~K

Community Lounge / Re: P-I-M-P My Thread (Just for JB)...
« on: April 02, 2010, 09:40:49 PM »
Hey JB.  I'm up your way this weekend.  No snow here but I hear there's 2 feet still on the ground up at Moose Head...

Episode 6x08 / Re: Biblical References
« on: March 25, 2010, 01:09:45 PM »
Ladybug:  As usual, your research was excellent and your ideas thoughtful.  This time, however, I think you grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick.  This episode was the confirmation of trends such as Ben's reading Philip K. Dick's "Valis" which foretell a Gnostic interpretation.  Jacob is not a "good" deity on the accepted Christian model.  He most resembles the Lucifer of the Gnostic scriptures (not our Devil Lucifer).  He is in favor of free will but his power is limited and he is capable of manipulation.  This kind of outright contradiction is typical of Gnostic thinking.  The Island represents the Gnostic idea of the Universe created by the "demiurge", an "emanation" of the original ultimate God who pays little attention to anything but himself.  The demiurge is a stupid God who has created a Universe that doesn't work.  Man's ultimate goal is, with the help of Lucifer, to realize that it's an illusion and escape to a higher plane.
Just like Lacky suggested in her article the other day...

I'm holding onto Ladybug's end of the stick.  I keep getting shot down for suggesting that there is a Christian foundation to the show, but I'll do it again anyway.  While I can't argue against your interpretation, I don't see why the writers wouldn't want to base the storyline on characters and beliefs that reach a much wider audience.  The Christian stories are more familiar to more people, believers or not.  By leaning toward a Christian explanation, they aren't asking viewers to convert or be damned, they are just using familiar themes.  Many practicing Christians, myself included, believe that the stories of the bible are just that: stories.  Just as Jesus told 'parables' to get his point across, many people believe the bible is a guide on how to live your life.  This show, in my opinion, is just a story (like Jesus' parables or even Aesop's fables) showing fictional characters and their struggles with good and evil, right and wrong, and ultimately redemption.  So can't Jacob and MIB be 'Jacob and Esau', or can't MIB be satan himself and Jacob his spiritual guardian/warden, and can't the island be the Garden of Eden itself without us, as the viewers, having to accept that these characters and places are real and true?  It is, after all, just a story.
I strongly agree that the show uses Christian references to illustrate certain themes, but I do not think, and I am not suggesting that you do, that the show is a Christian allegory, nor is the point to pitch Christian teachings.  Below is something that I wrote on another thread that I think is appropriate here:

I believe I can offer some evidence that suggests that the show is not a long Bible allegory.  Jacobís conversation with Richard in this episode shows different philosophies on good than the bible. 

Jacob said that, basically, what good is good if oneís arm has to be twisted in order to do it.  Good deeds should be done because they are good, not because you will be punished for not doing it. 

The Bible, quite directly, spells out good as things you can and can not do, and if you go against that, you will be punished.  Jacobsís thoughts on good, or at least why we should be good, seem to be different than the Bibleís.  So I think we can safely assume that LOST is not here to reflect the teachings of the Bible.

I don't mean to offend anyone's thoughts on the bible.  It's just my two cents.  I'm honestly open to debate about this.

I so agree it is not a biblical allegory, it deals with basic spiritual themes

Episode 6x01 / Re: So does Sun know English in the new timeline?
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:04:48 PM »
was it a wedding ring or could it have been an engagement ring?

Community Lounge / Re: The Hello and Good bye spot
« on: February 02, 2010, 08:38:12 AM »
Happy Lost Day.  Ye Ha! ;D

Community Lounge / Re: The Hello and Good bye spot
« on: January 13, 2010, 12:51:44 PM »
Hey I took the haitus off myself.  I got addicted to gossip at work.  Not easy with an office full of men.

Community Lounge / Re: How Cold/Hot are You??
« on: January 12, 2010, 01:07:13 PM »
It's hot in the office.  Hey I just read on-line how the UK is so cald that they're now experiencing our free rolling snow balls.  OOOOOOOOOOO

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