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Title: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 20, 2010, 01:18:41 PM
Hey guys, I have been rewatching all of LOST like I do every year (a disc a day keeps the jonesing at bay) and after re-watching the S2 episode "Orientation", I got to thinking aout some things. Actually, the epsiode in conjunction with something that Lindeloff and Cuse said in the S5 special features got me thinking. They were talking about how people were asking them about the idea of a "reset button", and what is the point of all of it if it was just going to be reset with the incident. Well, in the Orientation video Dr. Chang makes a big deal about not using the computer for anything other than entering the numbers, because anything else (communication to the outside world) could lead to another incident. Well, fast forward three years, and we are all sitting around watching the Season 5 finale titled "The Incident", and yet it didn't occur to me until now that what happened in the S5 finale had nothing to do with a computer, or communicating with the outside world. So, what's the point you ask?? Well stop interrupting me and I will tell you. What I'm saying, is that in my opinion, what we saw in the S5 finale was not "the incident" referred to in "Orientation". I think that it actually was like a reset button. And since we saw the scene at the end, after the bomb goes off, of Jack's eye opening in S1, the only question I have at the moment is what exactly (or rather why exactly) did they go back to then, and not some other place or time. Thoughts??

Oh, and check this out. Made me laugh out loud. Special guest appearance by Lindeloff and Cuse.
http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:4022193,includeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,4022193
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BurkRoyer on January 20, 2010, 03:19:46 PM
I think the reason they were told not to communicate with the outside world was to prevent them from communicating with the Pearl Station.  That would lead them to believe they didn't need to push the button, which would lead to another "Incident."  The Incident being the super strong magnetic anamoly, which did happen because they communicated with the outside world and decided not to push the button.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 20, 2010, 03:28:14 PM
I think the reason they were told not to communicate with the outside world was to prevent them from communicating with the Pearl Station.  That would lead them to believe they didn't need to push the button, which would lead to another "Incident."  The Incident being the super strong magnetic anamoly, which did happen because they communicated with the outside world and decided not to push the button.

I think I understand what you mean, but could you expand on that?? The only person to communicate with anyone, using the computer, was Michael, and he only talked to Walt (at least we are led to believe it was Walt...DUN-DUN-DUNNNNNNN). That had no bearing on whether or not they continued to push the button.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BurkRoyer on January 20, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
What I mean is, the specific act of communicating with the outside world doesn't cause the incident.  And I don't think he said that in the video.  I think he said, don't communicate or another incident might happen, not it would cause another incident. (However, I haven't watch it in a while).  Not Pushing the button causes the incident.  Communicating with the outside mostly likely would lead to not pushing the button.  I don't know what the real reason for having the Pearl station was.  Seemed pretty pointless to me.  However, if the Swan station ever communicated with them and the Pearlees spilled the beans, the Swanees would probably not pushed the button (like Locke didn't) and cause another incident....

Now that I said all that,  I don't understand why they just didn't cut the communication from the Swan in/out?!?  But that's what you get from a TV shows that's mostly made up as it goes along... I'm just try to justify it so I can enjoy the show...

Another reason I believe it was the Incident was because is episode is called, "The Incident"  I don't think they would lie to us like that... The show is confusing enough as it is :)
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BurkRoyer on January 20, 2010, 06:40:56 PM
OK.  Just reread your post and realize I didn't answer your question of how using the computer to communicate with the outside world caused a second Incident.  The maker of the video assumed the only communication with the outside world was through the computer, since he never thought they'd have time to find the other hatches in 108 minutes and with a virus outside... So he was only concerned with using the computer as a communication device... It was the communicating that was the issue, not using the computer... However, when Locke went to the Pearl station he discovered what he thought was a legitimate source saying that pushing the button was a psychological experiment.  So, he didn't push the button and caused another Incident.  This was a effectively a communication to Locke from the outside world, even though it was not via the computer... I'm probably still confusing, but that's the best I can do...
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: E.S.B. on January 20, 2010, 06:43:26 PM
Time-Jumper, I really like your explanation to this.  Well done.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: canadian eh on January 20, 2010, 08:08:59 PM
while reading your posts i thought what if everything does reset, maybe the people on the black rock are none other than our losties and when you leave the island you cant come back like charles widmore or micheal but the losties can because they just keep reseting
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 21, 2010, 09:37:23 AM
OK.  Just reread your post and realize I didn't answer your question of how using the computer to communicate with the outside world caused a second Incident.  The maker of the video assumed the only communication with the outside world was through the computer, since he never thought they'd have time to find the other hatches in 108 minutes and with a virus outside... So he was only concerned with using the computer as a communication device... It was the communicating that was the issue, not using the computer... However, when Locke went to the Pearl station he discovered what he thought was a legitimate source saying that pushing the button was a psychological experiment.  So, he didn't push the button and caused another Incident.  This was a effectively a communication to Locke from the outside world, even though it was not via the computer... I'm probably still confusing, but that's the best I can do...

Basically, if i am understanding this, the project/thought was comprimised by communications outside of that station, with anyone other than who was in there.  It is the variable human choice.  Desmond and others were conditioned.  I think this was Radzinskys personal hell for making them continue to dig after they said stop.  Though I do quite understand about the fact that they had to push it for the electromagnetic item also.

nice job ~ good to see some folks popping in
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 22, 2010, 09:37:44 AM
Time-Jumper Not to sound like a smart a$$, but I had to read that a few times before I understand what you were saying, and this is what I got out of your reply.

Any communication at all would lead to another incident.

If I am misunderstanding that, then please feel free to correct me. But the point I was trying to make was based on what we were told in the Orientation video. And this is the reasoning for my thinking. When we first see the movie, we initially believed it, and what "Dr. Wickman" was saying. Then we see the spliced portions that Mr. Eko brings to the hatch, and it seems to reinforce what we were already believing. Then comes the sucker punch where in the Pearl we are told that everything in the Swan is fake. BUT, it's not fake. NOT pushing the button actually does have very serious, and dangerous repercussions. So, if we are led to believe that the film is real, then this (Orientation transcript from Lostpedia)...

Now do not attempt to use the computer... * ...for anything... *

<Transcript of the spliced clip introduced in "What Kate Did">

...for anything else other than the entering of the code. This is its only function.

The isolation that attends the duties associated with Station 3 may tempt you to try and utilize the computer for communication with the outside world. This is strictly forbidden. Attempting to use the computer in this manner will compromise the integrity of the project and worse, could lead to another incident. I repeat, do not use the computer for anything other than entering the code.

<End of spliced clip.>

has to mean that the incident is directly tied to using the computer for some sort of communication. That is why I came to the conclusion I did.

As for the name of the episode, I don't really give that as much weight as most people. There have been a few other episodes where the title didn't match what was going on in the story.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 22, 2010, 10:49:37 AM
Hey Bob long time.  Okay I guess my question has always been what outside world?  I mean let us face it at some point Ben blocked the outside world from communication. 

Forgive me for not recalling this at this particular moment in time, but are we sure we really know what the incident is/was?  I know that we had Daniel and the Doc on the video talking about it - but - geesh my head hurts on this one a lot.

I am still going that Radzinsky was given that station as his own personal hell for pushing the drilling to the extent he did.  He was a wild man with a mission and not a good one.  He hated the natives with a passion. 

my two coppers
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 22, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
Hey Bob long time.  Okay I guess my question has always been what outside world?  I mean let us face it at some point Ben blocked the outside world from communication. 

Forgive me for not recalling this at this particular moment in time, but are we sure we really know what the incident is/was?  I know that we had Daniel and the Doc on the video talking about it - but - geesh my head hurts on this one a lot.

I am still going that Radzinsky was given that station as his own personal hell for pushing the drilling to the extent he did.  He was a wild man with a mission and not a good one.  He hated the natives with a passion. 

my two coppers

Hey yourself Lil, well, in my opinion, no, we still don't know what "The Incident" (hereby referred to, by me, in this post, as "Incident A") that was referred to in the Swan Orientation movie was, and that is the sort of what I'm driving at. In my opinion, the bomb going off in the S5 finale (hereby referred to, by me, in this post, as "Incident B") was a reset on the island and that it happened before "Incident A", and we will never find out what "Incident A" actually was. I think that when we get around to finding out about it, we will discover that "Incident B" will be the incident (which might be why the episode is titled thusly), but because it didn't happen due to the computer in the Swan hatch, it is different than "Incident A".

I know it's confusing, but if you read it like 75 more times, it will start to make sense. LOL. Hell, I had to re-re-re-read it while I was typing it. Also, keep in mind, I'm not trying to start a big thing. It just popped into my head, and I want to be ready for the boards when the show starts. Just throwing this out as a discussion. Not trying to convince anyone, or sway any opinions, just throwing that out there.

I don't even have anymore theories about what is going on in the show really, because with a few episodes from last season, all of my big arguements got thrown away when I was proven wrong. LOL. Anyway. Talk at ya.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 22, 2010, 05:31:36 PM
Hey Bob long time.  Okay I guess my question has always been what outside world?  I mean let us face it at some point Ben blocked the outside world from communication. 

Forgive me for not recalling this at this particular moment in time, but are we sure we really know what the incident is/was?  I know that we had Daniel and the Doc on the video talking about it - but - geesh my head hurts on this one a lot.

I am still going that Radzinsky was given that station as his own personal hell for pushing the drilling to the extent he did.  He was a wild man with a mission and not a good one.  He hated the natives with a passion. 

my two coppers

Hey yourself Lil, well, in my opinion, no, we still don't know what "The Incident" (hereby referred to, by me, in this post, as "Incident A") that was referred to in the Swan Orientation movie was, and that is the sort of what I'm driving at. In my opinion, the bomb going off in the S5 finale (hereby referred to, by me, in this post, as "Incident B") was a reset on the island and that it happened before "Incident A", and we will never find out what "Incident A" actually was. I think that when we get around to finding out about it, we will discover that "Incident B" will be the incident (which might be why the episode is titled thusly), but because it didn't happen due to the computer in the Swan hatch, it is different than "Incident A".

I know it's confusing, but if you read it like 75 more times, it will start to make sense. LOL. Hell, I had to re-re-re-read it while I was typing it. Also, keep in mind, I'm not trying to start a big thing. It just popped into my head, and I want to be ready for the boards when the show starts. Just throwing this out as a discussion. Not trying to convince anyone, or sway any opinions, just throwing that out there.

I don't even have anymore theories about what is going on in the show really, because with a few episodes from last season, all of my big arguements got thrown away when I was proven wrong. LOL. Anyway. Talk at ya.

Wow then I understood kind of sort of.  Yeah i am with you I have all kinds of thoughts in my head but I have a suspicsion it will all be thrown to the wind.

Nice seeing you and i always enjoy your weighing in on these subjects.  Well counting down till we see what they are giong to throw at us
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: Maxor127 on January 24, 2010, 08:23:01 AM
In this case, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer.  Which means, the episode where the bomb goes off is called the Incident, so it's safe to assume that that is the "incident" which they're referring to.  And we can assume the bomb goes off and causes some sort of electromagnetic disturbance which needs to be controlled and monitored with the Swan hatch.  Failure to push the button causes another electromagnetic disturbance, which would lead to another "incident."  Therefore, you have the original incident with the bomb and the second incident with Locke not pushing the button and maybe even other incidents in between that we don't know about.

So I'm going to go with they didn't want anyone using the computer for anything other than entering the code because they didn't want anyone to be influenced into not doing their duty.  It would be nice if there is some bigger reveal though that would lead to someone removing that scene from the film as if they didn't want anyone to see it.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 24, 2010, 09:34:56 AM
In this case, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer.  Which means, the episode where the bomb goes off is called the Incident, so it's safe to assume that that is the "incident" which they're referring to.  And we can assume the bomb goes off and causes some sort of electromagnetic disturbance which needs to be controlled and monitored with the Swan hatch.  Failure to push the button causes another electromagnetic disturbance, which would lead to another "incident."  Therefore, you have the original incident with the bomb and the second incident with Locke not pushing the button and maybe even other incidents in between that we don't know about.

So I'm going to go with they didn't want anyone using the computer for anything other than entering the code because they didn't want anyone to be influenced into not doing their duty.  It would be nice if there is some bigger reveal though that would lead to someone removing that scene from the film as if they didn't want anyone to see it.
you mean that was simple rofl
 I did understand this but there was one thing that we all might have forgotten.
At least it was in the cobwebbed corner of my mind.
Based on my knowledge of the history of the internet when Dharma was on the island they may have had their own intranet but external communciations would have been limited.  Why would they provied outside communication to a button pusher?  why he couldn't reach his wife, the pc was not really there yet and well, you get my point.  Now by the time Michael showed up to push buttons with our other friends, well, the chances that they were upgrading the intranet and getting them other kinds of services was limited.  they were using dos were they not?

anyway the point the outside world was outside that station, come on they were still giving them shots. okay enough said.   ;D
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: nomteticus on January 24, 2010, 06:07:22 PM
Why would they provied outside communication to a button pusher? 
Why did God put the apple tree in the garden of Eden?
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 24, 2010, 09:10:49 PM
Why would they provied outside communication to a button pusher? 
Why did God put the apple tree in the garden of Eden?
Well, that is a horse of different color.

But it was interesting I have Direct TV and on one of the chanells they were doing a lost recap for those who did not watch all of these years.  Darlton were on commenting also - this is a combined effort with ABC and DTV.  Anyway Ben is talking to Locke and telling him that the entire pushing the button is BS and that he was there and didn't push the button and nothing happened.

So, Ben knew what he was doing when he goaded John to do this.  I think Ben knew exactly what was going to happen.

Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: jamesl on January 25, 2010, 12:21:33 AM
In this case, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer.  Which means, the episode where the bomb goes off is called the Incident, so it's safe to assume that that is the "incident" which they're referring to.  And we can assume the bomb goes off and causes some sort of electromagnetic disturbance which needs to be controlled and monitored with the Swan hatch.  Failure to push the button causes another electromagnetic disturbance, which would lead to another "incident."  Therefore, you have the original incident with the bomb and the second incident with Locke not pushing the button and maybe even other incidents in between that we don't know about.

So I'm going to go with they didn't want anyone using the computer for anything other than entering the code because they didn't want anyone to be influenced into not doing their duty.  It would be nice if there is some bigger reveal though that would lead to someone removing that scene from the film as if they didn't want anyone to see it.

yes

simple and obvious explanation

and the video posted by Bob is awesome

Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BurkRoyer on January 25, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
In this case, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer.  Which means, the episode where the bomb goes off is called the Incident, so it's safe to assume that that is the "incident" which they're referring to.  And we can assume the bomb goes off and causes some sort of electromagnetic disturbance which needs to be controlled and monitored with the Swan hatch.  Failure to push the button causes another electromagnetic disturbance, which would lead to another "incident."  Therefore, you have the original incident with the bomb and the second incident with Locke not pushing the button and maybe even other incidents in between that we don't know about.

So I'm going to go with they didn't want anyone using the computer for anything other than entering the code because they didn't want anyone to be influenced into not doing their duty.  It would be nice if there is some bigger reveal though that would lead to someone removing that scene from the film as if they didn't want anyone to see it.

yes

simple and obvious explanation

and the video posted by Bob is awesome



Maxor127,

You're explanation is better than mine and I agree with you 100%.  I also believe when they wrote that scene they may have had other intentions for the "Incident," but later changed what the "Incident" was when they decided to do the whole Time-Travel storyline... I'm definitely not convince that they had this whole thing planned out from the beginning...
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 26, 2010, 10:25:53 AM
In this case, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer.  Which means, the episode where the bomb goes off is called the Incident, so it's safe to assume that that is the "incident" which they're referring to.  And we can assume the bomb goes off and causes some sort of electromagnetic disturbance which needs to be controlled and monitored with the Swan hatch.  Failure to push the button causes another electromagnetic disturbance, which would lead to another "incident."  Therefore, you have the original incident with the bomb and the second incident with Locke not pushing the button and maybe even other incidents in between that we don't know about.

So I'm going to go with they didn't want anyone using the computer for anything other than entering the code because they didn't want anyone to be influenced into not doing their duty.  It would be nice if there is some bigger reveal though that would lead to someone removing that scene from the film as if they didn't want anyone to see it.

This actually makes sense to me Max. I don't know if I'm 100% on board with it, but it is good, and it does make some sense. Thanks.

Why would they provied outside communication to a button pusher?
Why did God put the apple tree in the garden of Eden?

Where in the bible does it say it was an apple tree??
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: kayd_mon on January 26, 2010, 03:51:05 PM


Where in the bible does it say it was an apple tree??

It doesn't - but if it was an orange tree, Eve probably would've thought it was too much trouble.

Also, I was under the impression that everything in the show was mapped out.... it isn't?  Well if that's the case, the likelihood of the bomb being a reset button is a great way for the writers to get out of the confusing narratives they're currently in.  However, I really hope it isn't a reset.  I like the confusing stuff.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 26, 2010, 05:04:39 PM


Where in the bible does it say it was an apple tree??

It doesn't - but if it was an orange tree, Eve probably would've thought it was too much trouble.

BAM!! I like you already. LOL

Also, I was under the impression that everything in the show was mapped out.... it isn't?  Well if that's the case, the likelihood of the bomb being a reset button is a great way for the writers to get out of the confusing narratives they're currently in.  However, I really hope it isn't a reset.  I like the confusing stuff.

Now where did you get the impression everything was mapped out?? Or am I not understanding what you mean by mapped out??
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 26, 2010, 07:13:55 PM
The apple tree is infered by the tree of knowledge and then depicted as such in paintings.  Lost in translation from years back.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BadRobot64 on January 27, 2010, 05:23:34 AM
I think the reason they were told not to communicate with the outside world was to prevent them from communicating with the Pearl Station.  That would lead them to believe they didn't need to push the button, which would lead to another "Incident."  The Incident being the super strong magnetic anamoly, which did happen because they communicated with the outside world and decided not to push the button.

i agree.. thinking about the swan altogether made me realize alot... that there was no real sickness or need for quarentine... it was just a way to make the people inside the hatch ( radzinsky, Inman, and Desmond to STAY in the hatch pushing the button ... doing the zombie work forever to prevent another incident... like maybe crashing a flight, or causing the station to implode ... from happening. though it never was really said who was typing back to Michael when he typed on the swan computer... it said it was walt... but i think it was actually Mikhail playing a mind f**k on him.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: lostfan777 on January 27, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
I think 'the incident' was the release of the magnetic force.  Jack and friends went back and either reset the timeline or not, but 'the incident', the release of the force, still took place.  Now jump ahead to the hatch and the computer.  Entering the code and pushing the button keeps the force from being released again, which would cause another incident.

So how would using the computer for any other reason lead to another incident?  Easy.  Everyone knows that (computers) + (communication) = (pornography)!  Add a lonely guy with nothing to do to the equation and that computer would be crashed in no time!  Viola!, another incident and one panicked Dharma Tech with his %$#@! in his hand!
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BadRobot64 on January 27, 2010, 01:24:27 PM
ya im sure thats what the writers had in mind... dont crank your wank when youre supposed to be watching the button... that includes youporn.com
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: kayd_mon on January 27, 2010, 03:50:19 PM


Where in the bible does it say it was an apple tree??

It doesn't - but if it was an orange tree, Eve probably would've thought it was too much trouble.

BAM!! I like you already. LOL

Also, I was under the impression that everything in the show was mapped out.... it isn't?  Well if that's the case, the likelihood of the bomb being a reset button is a great way for the writers to get out of the confusing narratives they're currently in.  However, I really hope it isn't a reset.  I like the confusing stuff.

Now where did you get the impression everything was mapped out?? Or am I not understanding what you mean by mapped out??

I thought that the main events of the show were basically decided from the beginning, like "Ok, at the end of the 5th season, we're going to detonate a bomb!"  Although I realize that certain characters may have received more focus or what not based on viewer reaction, I thought that the main story was already written.  I just remember reading that the Adam and Eve skeletons were placed in the very beginning of the show to prove that.  I don't know, though.  I also remember reading that Eko was supposed to be more significant in the grand scheme of the show, but his part was re-written.  So... I guess I could be wrong about the whole mapped-out thing.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BobBX542 on January 27, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
I thought that the main events of the show were basically decided from the beginning, like "Ok, at the end of the 5th season, we're going to detonate a bomb!"  Although I realize that certain characters may have received more focus or what not based on viewer reaction, I thought that the main story was already written.  I just remember reading that the Adam and Eve skeletons were placed in the very beginning of the show to prove that.  I don't know, though.  I also remember reading that Eko was supposed to be more significant in the grand scheme of the show, but his part was re-written.  So... I guess I could be wrong about the whole mapped-out thing.

Ohhhh, okay, so then in that case, I did misunderstand what you meant. My fault. If I am remembering what they said at the beginning of all this, they knew how they were going to end the show. As far as ALL of it being mapped out, I doubt it. Things like Adam and Eve, Smokey, The D.I., Jacob; yeah, those were probably all thought out before the show was "official".

But certain things like Jack, Ben, Eko, Nikki and Paulo (ewww, shudder) were all changed from the original intentions. Jack was suppossed to die in the first season, maybe even the first episode if I remember right (I think he was suppossed to take the pilot's place in the first episode). Ben was not suppossed to turn into the leader of the Others, Eko was supposedly going to have some kind of crazy story, and (this I know for sure) Nikki and Paulo were suppossed to have a story arc that carried over into the fourth season, but because we all hated them so much they killed them off.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 27, 2010, 04:31:20 PM
I think one of the great things about the show is that it did kind of have that ad hoc quality when it needed to change course they were flexible enough to get off their bottoms and change it.  if something didn't work get rid of it and move on.  I think the fans reactions to what the show is or how it was moving made it a bit more interseting than normal. 

So (shudder as Bob would say) Nikki and Paulo were not something you could just drop into the show and expect us fans to say Hey who put the pink elephant in my living room.  They fixed and killed them off promptly.

I guess this being the season finale I am less apt to be up their butts for not being consisten  I mean let us face it if after five years we are willing to dedicate time to the show and be on here they did their job.  They hooked us and we are off and running for the final season.

Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: lostfan777 on January 27, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
I thought that the main events of the show were basically decided from the beginning, like "Ok, at the end of the 5th season, we're going to detonate a bomb!"  Although I realize that certain characters may have received more focus or what not based on viewer reaction, I thought that the main story was already written.  I just remember reading that the Adam and Eve skeletons were placed in the very beginning of the show to prove that.  I don't know, though.  I also remember reading that Eko was supposed to be more significant in the grand scheme of the show, but his part was re-written.  So... I guess I could be wrong about the whole mapped-out thing.

I think I remember them saying that they knew what the island was and why people were drawn there, but that some of the storylines needed to change along the way.  They definitely said that they would reveal who Adam and Eve are and it would show that they had a plan all along.  My question is (I can't remember all of the scene) was it confirmed that the skeletons were a male and a female?  I thought it would be cool if it ended up being Jacob and the MIB, black and white like the stones.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: BurkRoyer on January 27, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
I recently saw an interview with the writers and they said it wasn't until after Season 3, when they got a firm end date, that they really "mapped things out".  So the stuff in the first 3 Season are going to be a lot more ad hoc, then the stuff in the last 3...
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: RM on January 28, 2010, 08:36:16 AM
I must say that I have never understood the purpose of having a human being enter a code every 108 minutes.  Seems like you could just have a computer program that wakes up every 108 minutes and executes the necessary procedure.

Be that as it may, I do get the point of telling the people inside the Hatch that their job is important to prevent another Incident.  But remember that Dharma had its own inner Circle of Trust, so probably very few people knew that danger was a constant possibility.  So I get the purpose of telling the watchers in The Pearl that it's a fake experiment -- who would stay on the Island if you knew that danger was real? -- just to have an extra set of eyes checking that the button was always being pushed.
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: LostinLock on January 30, 2010, 06:53:23 AM
not sure they had the technology back them to do that simple procdure but again no story then
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: Mrs Hume on January 30, 2010, 02:26:09 PM
it was radzinskys punishment for what happened  :-\
Title: Re: NOT the Incident
Post by: MangoBingo on February 04, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
We've now seen that the Swan Station was still built in their reality.

Intriguing.