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Episode 3x12 / Re: Scenarios That Show Christian Is Alive
« on: March 18, 2007, 12:57:42 PM »
Christian is one of the Other's and has been responsible for raising a "Great Man."  He has utilized the island's quantum door and inserted himself into a number of different realities and outcomes in order to get his son and Claire back to the island.  He is not dead in the quantum bubble of the island, but is dead per the reality of Jack.

Please see "New Grand Theory" I posted. 

Jack is the man who brought Mikail to the island.

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Episode 3x12 / NEW GRAND THEORY
« on: March 18, 2007, 12:49:28 PM »
 



The magnetic environment of the island has allowed a manipulation of quantum outcomes as decribed by Hugh Everett in the 1950's.   I have included a summary of Everett's Many-World model of quantum mechanics.  It should have been, more appropriately, termed quantum averaging but allows for multiple universes coinciding in varying quantum formats.  Time travel is therefore not time travel because these alternate realities exist beside us.  If one is able to manipulate or search for the desired quantum state, you have a means of exploring and creating other realities.  (Here reality is dependent upon the perspective of the observer and any other participant would be an "other").  Such a device would require a strong magnetic field.....as found on the island......and a series of control stations syncronized precisely.....as in the hatches encircling a central station.  The island and the hatch system were therefore intended as a means of allowing individuals to travel other worlds and altered realities.  The Dharma initiative was then simply a front for the selection of individuals who could be trusted with such a gift (no Biff's taking over the world).  I'm getting off on a little tangent, but this is the science upon which the show is based (I have no doubt). 

    Anyway, here is the summary as promised:

Many-worlds is a re-formulation of quantum theory [1], published in 1957 by Dr Hugh Everett III [2], which treats the process of observation or measurement entirely within the wave-mechanics of quantum theory, rather than an input as additional assumption, as in the Copenhagen interpretation. Everett considered the wavefunction a real object. Many-worlds is a return to the classical, pre-quantum view of the universe in which all the mathematical entities of a physical theory are real. For example the electromagnetic fields of James Clark Maxwell or the atoms of Dalton were considered as real objects in classical physics. Everett treats the wavefunction in a similar fashion. Everett also assumed that the wavefunction obeyed the same wave equation during observation or measurement as at all other times. This is the central assumption of many-worlds: that the wave equation is obeyed universally and at all times.

Everett discovered that the new, simpler theory - which he named the "relative state" formulation - predicts that interactions between two (or more) macrosystems typically split the joint system into a superposition of products of relative states. The states of the macrosystems are, after the subsystems have jointly interacted, henceforth correlated with, or dependent upon, each other. Each element of the superposition - each a product of subsystem states - evolves independently of the other elements in the superposition. The states of the macrosystems are, by becoming correlated or entangled with each other, impossible to understand in isolation from each other and must be viewed as one composite system. It is no longer possible to speak the state of one (sub)system in isolation from the other (sub)systems. Instead we are forced to deal with the states of subsystems relative to each other. Specifying the state of one subsystem leads to a unique specification of the state (the "relative state") of the other subsystems. (See "What is a relative state?")

If one of the systems is an observer and the interaction an observation then the effect of the observation is to split the observer into a number of copies, each copy observing just one of the possible results of a measurement and unaware of the other results and all its observer- copies. Interactions between systems and their environments, including communication between different observers in the same world, transmits the correlations that induce local splitting or decoherence into non- interfering branches of the universal wavefunction. Thus the entire world is split, quite rapidly, into a host of mutually unobservable but equally real worlds.

According to many-worlds all the possible outcomes of a quantum interaction are realised. The wavefunction, instead of collapsing at the moment of observation, carries on evolving in a deterministic fashion, embracing all possibilities embedded within it. All outcomes exist simultaneously but do not interfere further with each other, each single prior world having split into mutually unobservable but equally real worlds.

Interestingly, Hawking and other of the great living physicists agree with Everett on the many world's interpretation.  A neat implication of the model is discussed in Timeline by Michael Crighton and the science forms the basis of the novel!

A good depiction of Everett's work is found in the example of "Schrodinger's cat."   A cat is placed in a sealed box with a device that releases a lethal does of cyanide if a certain radioactive decay is detected. For simplicity we'll imagine that the box, whilst closed, completely isolates the cat from its environment. After a while an investigator opens the box to see if the cat is alive or dead. According to the Copenhagen Interpretation the cat was neither alive nor dead until the box was opened, whereupon the wavefunction of the cat collapsed into one of the two alternatives (alive or dead cat). The paradox, according to Schrodinger, is that the cat presumably knew if it was alive *before* the box was opened. According to many-worlds the device was split into two states (cyanide released or not) by the radioactive decay, which is a thermodynamically irreversible process (See "When do worlds split?" and "Why do worlds split?"). As the cyanide/no-cyanide interacts with the cat the cat is split into two states (dead or alive). From the surviving cat's point of view it occupies a different world from its deceased copy. The onlooker is split into two copies only when the box is opened and they are altered by the states of the cat.
The cat splits when the device is triggered, irreversibly. The investigator splits when they open the box. The alive cat has no idea that investigator has split, any more than it is aware that there is a dead cat in the neighbouring split-off world. The investigator can deduce, after the event, by examining the cyanide mechanism, or the cat's memory, that the cat split prior to opening the box.

NOW,  applying this little mind-bender, think what most of "the flashbacks" have in common.  The characters have done something, felt something, missed something, or have not done something that they would like to change.  The reason that they are not "on the list" is that, if allowed to utilize the island's magnetic quantum hub, they will not use this gift for the purposes of their own development but will try to reverse the past as Desmond tried. 

Dharma was a cooky scientific cult who came to the island for reasons of obscurity and seclusion but happened upon a group of people who had been upon the island for a great length of time.  As the scientists began studying the island, they began to develop some understanding of it's characteristics and potential.  The purge began with scientists arguing against use of the quantum conduit being separated from those whom wished to explore it's potential.  The other's fought with the Dharma initiative and prevailed.  Perhaps a few of the scientists were absorbed, but most died.  The Others were left with a sub and a hatch mechanism that allowed for a magnetic window to localize a beacon for the island.   


Anyway, I'm getting tire of typing. Please tell me what you think and feel free to add to the above.


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Episode 3x12 / Re: OTHERVILLE JACK HAS A DIFFERENT TATTOO!
« on: March 17, 2007, 05:02:38 PM »
Nevermind.  Thought that I had been clever.

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Episode 3x12 / LOCKE IS JACOB.
« on: March 17, 2007, 04:33:47 PM »
MIKAIL TURNS TO LOCKE IN THE SCENE WHEN HE BEGINS SPEAKING OF THE LIST AND THE MAGNIFICENT MAN THAT BROUGHT HIM TO THE ISLAND.  BEN'S INTENT WHEN ABDUCTED WAS TO RETRIEVE LOCKE.  LOCKE HAS BEEN MOST CHANGED BY THE ISLAND.  LOCKE SPEAKS OF THE SPIRIT OF THE ISLAND.  LOCKE WAS ADOPTED.  BEN IS AN ADVERSARY AS MADE CLEAR BY THE DOCTOR LADY'S COMMENTS ABOUT HIM BEING DANGEROUS.

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Episode 3x12 / Re: OTHERVILLE JACK HAS A DIFFERENT TATTOO!
« on: March 17, 2007, 04:18:46 PM »
OF COURSE THIS IS WHY THEY INSERTED THE THAILAND EPISODE WHERE HE WASN'T TO BE MARKED.  NOW YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE ARE TWO JACKS.  THIS WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT CLUE OF THIS ENTIRE EPISODE.

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Episode 3x12 / OTHERVILLE JACK HAS A DIFFERENT TATTOO!
« on: March 17, 2007, 04:16:16 PM »
LOOK AT THE SCENE OF JACK SPIKING THE FOOTBALL FRAME BY FRAME.  OTHERVILLE JACK HAS A VERY CLEAR GREEN AND RED TATTOO RUNNING ALONG THE INNER LEFT ARM AND FOREARM.  THIS IS MOST CLEAR WHEN HE STOPS AND IS BENDING BACK INTO HIS SPIKE.  HE HOLDS THE POSITION JUST LONG ENOUGH TO SHOW US THAT THERE ARE TWO JACKS!

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Official Polls / Re: Episode 3x9 Rating
« on: March 03, 2007, 12:42:15 PM »
Are the writers and producers of lost just sick of working so hard?  The writing has become shoddy, the storyline is fading, the details are inserted to maintain the mirage that there is some mystery here, and popularity of the show is plummeting! 

The other released by sawyer should have been written with amnesia following his brainwashing.  That way the show would have a vehicle to answer some questions based upon his limited clues and knowledge.

This show will implode.....and all I want is a few answers before it gets all "Twin Peaks" on us.

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