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LOST Talk / Re: People bitching will get this show canceled
« on: February 27, 2007, 03:40:05 AM »
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Is it already too late for LOST? I think it is. I was curious about Jack's tattoos in season one, but not anymore. Telling me about them now was too late and, consequently, unsatisfying. I was curious about the monster at the end of season one, but not anymore. To tell me about it now would be also too late and unsatisfying. Walt's powers, surviving the crash, Locke's legs, the voices in the woods, the sickness, Adam and Eve, Aaron, the hatch -- most of these have been forgotten, and the intense curiosity I once had has faded away. No answers that the show gives will feel spectacular. When given an answer, I will probably react with an unenthusiastic, "Aah . . . ."

Episode 3x05 / Two Smokies
« on: November 06, 2006, 05:21:29 AM »
"Two players. Two sides. One is light; one is dark."
--Locke, Pilot Part 2

It seems that the monster that Locke saw in "Walkabout" is not what we or Eko have been seeing. Locke saw a bright light; Eko saw a dark cloud. Are they two separate entities?

Episode 3x05 / Re: We've seen the smoke monster before?
« on: November 06, 2006, 05:02:16 AM »
The "dot matrix" sound of Smoky is actually the sound of a store receipt being printed. Also from a checkout line, the beep you hear when the bar code is scanned was used for the hatch's timer when it gets to 3 minutes.

For where we saw Smoky at the end of season 2 but didn't know it, my best guess is that Smokey was the mysterious bird that allegedly says Hurley's name.

LOST Talk / Re: Far Too Many Unresolved Mysteries
« on: October 31, 2006, 02:49:53 AM »
I think that a cause of a lot of frustrations is that this show is unique. You can't exaclt call it a mystery, and you can't just label it as a drama, or a sci-fi, or a survival story.
Whatever you call it, it's starting to try the patience of many viewers.

Sure, we have secrets. These secrets add to the story, however, and keep dedicated fans coming back for more.
I agree. But those secrets should last for about one season -- two at most. Whenever a secret is revealed, it should be replaced by a different secret or by a twist of everything we thought we knew. Lost has certainly been adding new secrets, but they have not been answering the older ones. By the time they are finally answered, people will have forgotten what it was they were curious about.

Do you REALLY want all your questions answered right now? I don't.
All? Absolutely not. But dozens of questions going all the way back the beginning of the first season is pushing it.

If you look in the thread for Epi 3x04, there is a topic where people are complaining about this same thing
There, they are complaining about more questions introduced in season 3. That's not what I'm talking about. As I said above, new questions should come up, but they should be replacing the old questions. That's not what's happening. The old questions are still being dangled to the point that they are starting to be forgotten. The whispers, the sickness, even Cindy disappearing are only a few that people hardly remember. The curiosity for these and others is mostly gone, and that will make the answer less satisfying.

LOST Talk / Far Too Many Unresolved Mysteries
« on: October 26, 2006, 10:21:57 PM »
Many mysteries that once aroused curiosity are now arousing frustration. Once a mystery is introduced, it should be resolved within a season or two, otherwise it is just being drawn out. This show is a drama, not a mystery. The climax is not discovering the secret; it is dealing with the situation once the secret is known. By now, we should not be thinking, "What is the smoke monster?"; we should be thinking, "What are we going to do about it?"

I'd like you to contribute to a list of all the mysteries, big and small, that have not been resolved.

* The smoke monster -- who, what, where, when, why, and how?
* Adam and Eve at the caves -- who were they?
* How did the passengers of 815 survive the crash? According to Sayid, they shouldn't have.

Episode 3x04 / Re: the intercom
« on: October 26, 2006, 09:56:32 PM »
The significance of hearing Sawyer over the intercom is simply that the intercom actually works! Juliet had told us that it was broken. Of course, just because the intercom works does not mean that Jack wasn't still hallucinating his father's voice.

If we're supposed to believe Christian is still alive, then why didn't anyone else from the plane crash see this perfectly manicured older man in a suit standing in the water by the beach
Whether Christian is alive or not, I believe this part was still in Jack's head.

you don't have someone who's a freakin' DOCTOR go and pick up their dead father from Australia and tell the audience to believe he was only fooled into believing his father was dead
A good point. Probably the best point. How could Jack not recognize whether the body he identified was dead or alive?

Episode 3x04 / Re: Cartoons?
« on: October 26, 2006, 09:39:19 PM »
"Benjamin" (which I thought odd, since no one ever used Benjamin on the show before or since...)
That's how Ben introduced himself to Jack.

he felt as if the Others were treating him like a kid, so he asked if he should talk to "Benjamin"
By asking if he should talk to Ben, I got the impression that Jack was trying to play Juliet and Ben against each other in the same way that Ben tried to play Jack and Locke against each other.

Episode 3x02 / Re: Did ALL the Losties Kill?
« on: October 13, 2006, 11:54:00 PM »
Remember that these flashbacks can cover a person's entire life. Almost anyone has had some family member, close friend, or just some random person die during their lifetime.

Episode 3x01 / Re: Eyes
« on: October 09, 2006, 04:53:48 PM »
Ben's eyes were brown, they were blue in season 2

Umm... I might be color blind, but I'm quite sure that these are not brown eyes:

Kate's eyes also look just the same as they always did:

Sawyer's eyes, also, are still light-colored:

back in S1 when Ethan's eyes changed to blue in the jungle--as did Charlie's

I'm quite certain that Charlie's eyes have always been blue.

I will admit, I was initially intrigued by this eye color theory, but when I went checking, none of the claims people made seemed to be accurate.

Episode 3x01 / Re: Two Groups of Others
« on: October 08, 2006, 05:14:07 PM »
not to be picky but Charlie killed Ethan  not ana lucia

I was merely quoting what Henry had said. I realize now that Henry's quote, "You killed two of us," can be taken in two ways, and those ways depend on who he is referring to. He said "you" to Ana-Lucia, but he may have been speaking about the survivors in general, in which case Goodwin and Ethan are likely the two. If, however, he was speaking specifically of Ana-Lucia, then the group that came a week after the crash must have been Ben's people. However, this is the same group that took the kids, and it is that group with the kids (we presume) that Eko hid from in early S2, which conflicts with BlackrockBob's reasoning.

But since Goodwin and Ethan were not supposed to do anything until they reported their lists, at least three days later, then the group of others that showed up on the very first night must have been the second faction of others.

Episode 3x01 / Re: Where Was The Earthquake . . .
« on: October 08, 2006, 05:03:12 PM »
I think I was one of those who assumed it was another electromagnetic pulse rather than a true earthquake
I also assumed it was an electromagnetic pulse

Sorry for the confusion. I meant an earthquake-like effect. I realize that it was whatever is in the hatch that was responsible and not an actual earthquake.

In the season 2 finale, things are shaking inside the hatch, but not anywhere else. No one seemed to have any indication that anything was going on until Desmond turned the key and the whole sky lit up white.

Episode 3x01 / Where Was The Earthquake . . .
« on: October 08, 2006, 02:49:31 PM »
. . . in Live Together, Die Alone? I'm sure everyone is assuming that the earthquake in AToTC was caused by Desmond's system failure in the hatch, so why did we not experience the same results at the end of the season 2 finale?

Episode 3x01 / Two Groups of Others
« on: October 08, 2006, 11:28:01 AM »
If we remember when Henry Gale attacked Ana-Lucia, he said, "You killed two of us." At this point, those two are undoubtedly Ethan and Goodwin. So what about the two that Eko killed on the first night and the one that Ana-Lucia killed when they came back a week later? Why didn't Henry consider those other three deaths? I'm thinking that there are indeed two separate groups of others on the island.

It would also be consistent with the writers' storytelling style -- make us think something, make us think the opposite, then we discover that the original belief was true. A few examples:
* We are made to believe from the very beginning that the button is real. Then we are led to believe the opposite (the Pearl station) only to discover that our original belief was true.
* We are made to believe from the very beginning that Henry Gale is an other. Then we are led to believe the opposite (we find his balloon) only to discover that our original belief was true.
* We are made to believe from the very beginning that there is a sickness on the island. Then we are led to believe the opposite (Kelvin going outside) only to discover that our original belief was true (the LOST experience).

So, we were all led to believe that there were two groups of others towards the beginning of season 2. Then were led to believe the opposite (we find Zeke's beard and costume), so I'm sure that we will discover that our original belief is true.

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