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Episode 3x13 / Re: Kid Falls 9 Stories
« on: April 01, 2007, 01:12:49 AM »
i heard it was only 5....  :P
That was his age. The kid was five years old.

Episode 3x13 / Kid Falls 9 Stories
« on: March 31, 2007, 02:40:37 PM »
I just heard today in the news that a kid fell 9 stories and survived with only a broken leg. It gives credibility to Locke surviving his fall.

Episode 3x14 / Re: Nikki and Paolo's Fate
« on: March 29, 2007, 07:29:56 PM »
I completely agree from the looks of things that Nikki and Paulo *should* be dead . . .

BUT, they are both in the cast list for an upcoming episode. Notice that they are also both marked as season 3+, meaning that they will continue into season 4.;ep_title;15

Episode 3x13 / Re: Magic Box
« on: March 22, 2007, 12:26:58 AM »
As disappointed as I've been in this show, I need to say that I definitely don't think the magic box was a plot fixer-upper. I think the writers have been planning this for a very long time.

Back towards the beginning of season 2, they told us that the book "The Third Policeman" was very important to the story of LOST. The idea of a box that will give you whatever you desire is practically copy-pasted from "The Third Policeman."

Episode 3x10 / Re: Why no motivation?
« on: March 02, 2007, 04:25:08 PM »
It has only been a day or two that is not accounted for.
And why should it take two days to set out on a rescue? Claire, Michael, Eko -- all of these rescues took at most an hour for preparation. Or when Jack and Sayid were devising their plan at the end of season 2 -- that certainly didn't take two days either, more like three minutes.

And when Kate told Locke that she was going to rescue Jack, one would wonder why Locke didn't stop her right then and say, "Sayid and I have been working on a plan. It's taken us two days and is really complex. Here's what we've got: We go north. . . . I assume you want in."

No matter how you look at it, those last few minutes of this episode was some very poorly written plot development.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Why no motivation?
« on: March 02, 2007, 03:35:01 PM »
They were going to go look for them. Locke speech said so.
Talk is cheap. The fact is that Locke spent a whole lot of time sitting on his ass.

Plus he said that it was not about motivation.
This is quite possibly what the writers meant for him to say. Unfortunately, it's not how the line came out. Remember, if it's not about motivation, then he must have been saying that it was about not knowing where to look. Except, he very clearly said he did know where to look.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Why no motivation?
« on: March 02, 2007, 02:46:21 PM »
I just had a bit of a revelation that makes this all make much more sense.  Locke said (or at least this is what he meant) "[it's] not about the motivation, [it's] about knowing where to look."
Except that whatever this "it" refers to is never established. Also, if this is correct, then it once again means that Locke is saying that he does not know where to look. And because in his very next sentence he tells Kate that he does know where to look, this interpretation is contradictory and can't be correct.

I interpreted their remarks to Kate that they DID want to find Jack Kate & Sawyer, but they didn't know where to look AND they were busy burying Mr Eko. I think in story time it's no more than a day or two after Eko died.

Agree because this the correct
You're right, it's been a couple days since Eko died. So what could Locke possibly have been doing for two days? When Clair was kidnapped, Locke took about one hour to get ready before setting out. When Michael ran off, Locke took even less than an hour. And when he decided to save Eko, he set out immediately. Now, Locke believes he knows where to find Jack, and yet he spends two days lounging on the beach. He doesn't do or say anything until Kate forces the issue. The mere observation of Locke's behavior tells us that he was not actively trying to rescue anyone.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Writers Have Lost Their Marbles
« on: March 01, 2007, 04:28:50 PM »
Then Locke had the "divine inspiration" of where to look for Jack, Sawyer and Kate after seeing the biblical reference on Ecko's stick highlighted.

Then Desmond brought Hurley and Charlie into the forrest to tell them about Ecko being killed by "the island".

Between these two events was a full day. And that next day was spent with Charlie and Desmond getting drunk. So, between Locke knowing where to look for Jack and finally chasing down Kate is at least one and a half days, or two and a half at most. Like I said, it shouldn't have taken Locke even 5 minutes to set out.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Writers Have Lost Their Marbles
« on: March 01, 2007, 03:36:45 PM »
Remember, all of this took place in the last week or so
When Michael ran off or when Clair was taken, how long did it take them to organize a rescue party? An hour? Less? And when Locke decided to save Mr. Eko, he set out almost immediately if I recall correctly. If Locke knew how to find Jack, then there's no reason he should have waited even 5 minutes.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Writers Have Lost Their Marbles
« on: March 01, 2007, 03:13:49 PM »
He said it is NOT about motivation

This also would not make sense. Locke said he had a compass bearing that would lead them to Jack. So, if you are correct, then Locke knew where to look and also had the motivation to go after them, and thus did not go after them. . . . That's very backwards logic.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Writers Have Lost Their Marbles
« on: March 01, 2007, 03:07:22 PM »
Also, regarding Eko's stick, it wasn't the was the inscription.
Locke can find north, the stick told us they were to look not how to find it.

Sorry folks, but that's not what they said.

Kate: "How?"
Sayid: "Because of the way the sunlight hit Mr. Eko's stick when John was burying him."

Nothing to do with the inscription and everything to do with the sun. It wouldn't even make sense if the inscription led them to the Others. That would imply that Mr. Eko knew where the Others are.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Why no motivation?
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:53:15 PM »
From your quotes he said it was not about motivation. Meaning they have the motivation but did not know where to look.

No, he said that Kate was not wrong about their motivation. I'll remove Kate's interruption to make it easier to follow Locke's line.

Kate: "Two reasons: You don't know where to look, and you're not motivated."
Locke: "You're wrong. . . . Not about the motivation, just about knowin' where to look."

Episode 3x10 / Writers Have Lost Their Marbles
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:49:40 PM »
On the surface, this episode was fun. The last time I enjoyed a good Hurley-Charlie moment was back in season 1 when they were trying to fish. But below the surface, this episode had the usual staleness that I'm becoming accustomed to on this show.

First, Locke tells Kate that he has no motivation to find Jack. That doesn't at all fit with Locke's character.

Second, we're told the shadow from Eko's stick gave them a compass bearing. But when has Locke ever had trouble knowing which way was north? The significance of Eko's stick turned out to be nothing more than a plot hole.

And third is Hurley's backstory. It's not bad, it's that we've heard it before. Once again, Hurley wants to break the curse, and also once again, some character jumps in to tell him "we make our own luck." This flashback is identical in concept to Hurley's original flashback episode; only the names changed.

Episode 3x10 / Re: Why no motivation?
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:23:44 PM »
Locke: "You're wrong."
Kate: "Oh, really?! Then why didn't you come after--"
Locke: "Not about the motivation, just about knowin' where to look."

That's what my ears hear. So it seems that Locke did admit that he has no motivation to find Jack.

LOST Talk / Re: People bitching will get this show canceled
« on: February 27, 2007, 04:32:09 AM »
Another fiction writer, J. Michael Straczynski, whose work I greatly admire, has said that once a series gets rolling, no single primary question can be allowed to go more than about one season before answering it, otherwise you get into a frustrating situation where nothing is resolved.

Having not followed such a rule is, I believe, the fatal flaw of LOST.

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