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Episode 5x12 / Why Did Ben REALLY Come Back To The Island?
« on: April 15, 2009, 09:35:22 PM »
The whole "I need to be judged" thing didn't seem sincere. Maybe that's what Ben told himself after returning to the island, but that's not what he was telling himself while he was off the island.

Seems more likely that Ben wanted to return to the island in order to escape being found by Widmore after killing Penny...returning to the island was his escape plan. Which would also mean that perhaps Ben decided to be the one to turn the donkey wheel so that he could leave the island and exact his revenge on Widmore, then find a way to return to the island to hide once again from Widmore after he had completed his plan.

Plus, Smokey didn't really seem to "judge" Ben about Alex's death...it merely replayed different events from Alex's time with Ben, then disappeared back down the holes. If anything, Smokey seemed to use Ben's memories of Alex in order to find that emotional weak spot to manifest itself into, in order to call Ben out and tell him not to harm Locke and instead to follow him and do everything he says. "Alex", afterall, didn't say "You bastard! Why didn't you save me?"..."She" didn't seem to want revenge or show anger about that at all. Far more interested in what Ben was planning on doing than what he had already done.

So, was Ben's reason for returning to the island sincere, or something else?

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Episode 5x11 / Am I The Only One Who Likes The "New" Jack?
« on: April 02, 2009, 03:35:20 PM »
I thought Jack's actions and words in the last episode were REALLY welcomed. Especially his seeming acceptance that something bigger is going on, and that maybe faith in that "something" is a smarter move than always trying to control everything.

He seems much calmer, as where before he was always getting angry and frustrated at the drop of a hat, always pointing a gun at someone lol. I got irritated with him during the episode this season where Locke ends up in the hospital where Jack works, and Jack is STILL being a stubborn S.O.B. lol. Even when Locke says "Your father says hello", and mentions him by NAME, Jack refuses to allow himself to accept anything outside of himself...always has to be in control.

Now? Now it seems Jack "gets it". He tells Sawyer that he won't operate on Ben. Sawyer says if he doesn't, young Ben will die. Jack is like, "Then I guess he dies." I loved that lol.

Kate is trying to argue him into operating on Ben. Jack calls her out TWICE on it, first by saying "I've already saved Ben's life once when you asked me to"...then when after Kate says she doesn't like the "new" Jack, he says "You didn't like the old me." He seemed so damn calm and ok with it, and he was speaking the damn truth! lol

He tells Kate that maybe he's just "getting in the way" of what the island wants to do with all of his "act first, think second" behavior of the past (which echoed what Sawyer told him as well). He finally gets it.

Juliet confronts him in the shower, and Jack still doesn't budge even as she laying a guilt trip on him. And he finally, and sincerely, admits that he's "supposed" to be on the island, even if he doesn't know exactly why yet. And he's ok with it.

I seriously was enjoying the "new" Jack last night.

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Episode 5x09 / Did Sayid Know He Was In 1977?
« on: March 22, 2009, 02:36:28 PM »
I can't remember if anyone told Sayid it was 1977 and not 2007 (don't have the time to watch the episode over again).

The idea was that Sayid knew that the young boy calling himself "Ben" was indeed the older Ben that Sayid distrusted so much. But if nobody told Sayid he was back in 1977 how would he have known to make that connection? lol...So I'm thinking I must have missed something.

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Episode 5x09 / What Questions Were Answered In This Episode?
« on: March 19, 2009, 01:52:11 PM »
And even in the episodes leading up to this one? I'm trying to wrap my head around what's going on, and you guys always find stuff I overlook lol...

What's been answered, from what I can tell:

- Why the O6 were "not supposed to leave" (as Locke loved saying)

- Who the baby ends up being

- Whether or not the plane and its passengers landed in the same time as the O6

Any others? (there's gotta be lol)

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http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/03/snakes.html?npu=1&mbid=yhp


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Metal Bits Self-Assemble Into Lifelike Snakes

ARGONNE, Illinois In the basement of a nondescript building here at Argonne National Laboratory, nickel particles in a beaker are building themselves into magnetic snakes that may one day give clues about how life originally organized itself.

These chains of metal particles look so much like real, living animals, it is hard not to think of them as alive. But they are actually bits of metal that came together under the influence of a specially tuned magnetic field.

"It behaves like some live object," says physicist Alex Snezhko. "It moves. It crashes onto free-floating particles and absorbs them."
First a story about a missing island....now a story about metal particles using a "specially tuned magnetic field" to assemble themselves into resembling living, moving beings.

Maybe "Lost" isn't as out-there as we think lol ;)

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Episode 5x05 / I Think Kate Heard The Time-Skipping Losties In Season One
« on: February 17, 2009, 01:43:36 AM »
Since they showed the time-skipping survivors/scientists skipping to a point where Claire was giving birth, I went back and watched that episode. Interstingly enough, right before Kate finds Claire alone in the jungle going into labor, she hears footsteps coming from somewhere, and doesn't know who or where they're coming from. She starts looking around to figure out where they're coming from, and then discovers Claire resting against a broken tree branch.

The assumption is that it was Claire she heard walking around, but in reality it's never confirmed. It very well may have been some of the time-skippers walking through the jungle and not Claire she heard. Not to mention that Claire isn't walking when Kate finds her, she's standing still. I thought it was kinda weird as well that Kate just finds Claire all alone in the middle of the jungle, to the point she even asks Claire "What are you doing out here?"...Of course Claire doesn't really answer, she just "is" out there.

The one thing, however, is that Sawyer finds Kate and Claire at night, while Kate heard the footsteps during the day. Still, it jumed out at me seeing Kate hear footsteps in the middle of the jungle and having no idea who is out there walking around.

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LOST Talk / Missing Mexican Island Fuels Mystery
« on: February 15, 2009, 02:21:47 PM »
Interesting lol  ;D

Missing Mexican island fuels mystery

MEXICO CITY, Feb 11 (AFP) Feb 11, 2009

Lawmakers in Mexico are trying to determine the whereabouts of island central to the country's oil claims, which appears literally to have dropped off the map about 10 years ago.

Bermeja island in the Gulf of Mexico -- a strategic marker defining US and Mexican maritime and subsea rights -- has disappeared along with documents backing up a bilateral treaty on major oil reserves in the area, fueling rumors of a CIA plot.

"There are two stories about how it disappeared: one is that global warming raised the sea level and it is under water," said Mexican lawmaker Elias Cardenas, of the Convergence Party.

"The other is that ... it was blown up by the CIA so that the United States would get the upper hand in Hoyos de Dona" -- the oil reserves area.

Low-lying Bermeja, a smallish 80 km2 (31 sq miles), until 30 years ago was the official land point from which Mexico set its 200 nautical-mile economic zone.

The Alacranes islands now are being used as the marker, sharply reducing Mexico's economic zone.

In June 2000, Mexico and the United States signed a treaty putting a 10-year moratorium on their prospecting and pumping activities in the area. It is set to expire in 2011.

But "we do not have information about how this accord was signed," Cardenas said, while Bermeja north of Yucatan and Campeche states, had been mapped as far back as 1669.

Bermeja appears in a 1998 book of Mexican islands by the Interior Ministry, but in 1997 a Navy fishing expedition reported it could not locate the island, Cardenas said.

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Episode 5x03 / Did The Librarian Work For Oceanic?
« on: January 29, 2009, 02:17:02 AM »
The woman who Desmond was asking about Faraday at the university, the one who told Dez that there was no Faraday in their records...wasn't that the same lady who worled for Oceanic and who let Hurley onto the plane at the last minute?

If so, I'm guessing they're just recycling actors? lol

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Episode 4x13 / Who Took The Photo?
« on: May 30, 2008, 04:37:58 AM »
Apparently someone took the photo that was used at the press conference of the "Oceanic Six" getting off the inflatable raft and stepping back onto civilization. But when they showed that moment in tonight's show, they didn't show anyone standing with a camera.

So who took the freakin' photo?

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Episode 3x22 / Question About Naomi: Need Some Help...
« on: June 04, 2007, 12:34:40 PM »
In which episode did Naomi tell Desmond that she was sent to find him, and was sent to find him by Penny?

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I said two things last week (well, I said more than two things lol):

1) The Hostiles weren't hostile
2) Ben lied to the Hostiles and said Jacob wanted the purge to take place

In last night's episode, when Ben returned and was insisting that the kidnapping take place immediately, he said Jacob told him this...which we all know is a lie. So it kind of backs up the theory that maybe Ben did the same thing concerning the purge ("Jacob said the Dharma people needed to be purged from the island...")

Also, Richard (who, for right now anyway, is the only one we can reasonably assume is/was a "Hostile"), seemed to be against Ben's activities, while the guy Ben sent to the Losties' camp was on board immediately. Could possibly be that this guy was not an original Hostile, which was why he was more than content in carrying out Ben's plan.

So for right now, I still believe that Ben is manipulating the otherwise peaceful "Hostiles" to do his bidding (or at least act as support afterwards). Afterall, if Ben can manipulate the Losties and Dharma recruits so easily, I'm assuming he can manipulate the Hostiles as well...especially if he's conning them into believing he's able to both see and hear Jacob.

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Episode 3x20 / 10 Things I Now Believe After Seeing This Episode
« on: May 12, 2007, 02:11:13 AM »
10- Locke is not dead.

9 - Jacob is not a ghost.

8 - Ethan is(was) not a "native".

7 - Jack is not stupid or naive.

6 - Ben is not "special".

5 - Penny will find Desmond.

4 - Locke will be the key to understanding the island.

3 - The "hostiles" are not hostile.

2 - Dharma was not about peace, love, and saving the world.

1 - Vincent visits Jacob regularly lol.


Name your ten (if you have ten, that is).

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LOST Talk / If You Could See Just One More Flashback This Season...
« on: May 11, 2007, 11:05:58 PM »
Now that we've been given some insight into Ben's reality and past life, If we could see only one more flashback this season, whose flashback would you like to see?

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Episode 3x20 / "Do You Even Know What [Hostiles] Means?"
« on: May 11, 2007, 08:59:35 PM »
Not sure what to make of Richard saying that to the young Ben...he calls Richard a "hostile", Richard kind of laughs as if thinking Hostiles? Us?...and says "Do you even know what that word means?"...

Then...nothing. Never followed up on.

You gotta admit, Richard came across as peaceful and calm, even telling Ben he should return back to camp because people would be worried about him. That's not exactly hostile lol. The purge may have been 100% Ben's idea, just as the infertility and kidnapping of pregnant women seems to be 100% Ben's ideas (Richard even said that Ben is wasting time with all the infertility stuff and not focusing on what they originally were about).

So...does "do you even know what [hostiles] means?" have any significance, or was it just a passing comment with no real value to it?

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Episode 3x18 / Did Juliet Blow Her Cover?
« on: April 26, 2007, 04:28:10 PM »
Help me with this, because I can't remember things accurately enough right now to answer these questions and I don't feel like rewatching past episodes lol.

When Claire started getting sick and convulsing (or whatever she was doing), Juliet told Jack, Charlie, Sawyer, Sayid and Kate that what was happening to Claire was what has happened to all the pregnant woman on the island: that for some reason they all die. She said something like it usually happens during pregnancy or at birth, but for some reason it didn't start happening to Claire until after she had given birth. Then she ran off into the jungle to get the "meds" and prop herself up as the trustworthy hero who saved a Lostie's life, right?

But on last night's show, she told Sun point blank that if she concieved off the island, she'll be fine.

Claire conceived her child off the island, yet Juliet alledged that she almost "died" anyway.

So my question is, did Juliet slip up? Did she unknowingly let Sun know that Claire really was NOT in danger of dying? And if so, how long before someone confronts her on it?

Or is it just another script flaw? lol

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