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Episode 4x07 / Re: Why did Regina jump off the Boat?
« on: March 17, 2008, 04:50:42 PM »
I also think that the stain on the wall was from when Brandon went crazy, they killed him because of it (or because he destroyed the control room)
If the blood is Brandon's, I think it was self-inflicted.  I didn't analyze the scene or rewind the show, but I instantly saw the blood splatter as being at the height and angle that would have resulted from eating a gun.  That must not have been Regina's preference for an exit.

Episode 4x08 / Re: Ok: Who Dies?
« on: March 17, 2008, 04:39:21 PM »
Welcome Welcome Shakey!

Stand tall, Stand Firm, it is the easiest explanation, tis the the most logical...

Look around here dip your toes in the water, drop your ideas, let us sniff at 'em, check 'em out...
Thanks.. I finally signed up a couple weeks ago after lurking for quite some time.  I've gone to a few different sites but found this one to generally have the best theories.  There are some brilliant people here.

Episode 4x08 / Re: Ok: Who Dies?
« on: March 17, 2008, 03:24:56 PM »
My vote is for Jin since it's already been set up with the cemetary.  Yeah, I think he's actually dead and not just left back on the island.  I can't imagine any circumstance that would have him stay behind while his wife (whom he's forgiven for having an affair) and unborn child left the island. 

Episode 4x06 / Re: Widmore on video
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:46:30 PM »
That's exactly, though not in your words, what I asked.  See page 1, item 1
Sorry, I did read your post.  I guess I started typing and then one thought led into another without making sure I wasn't repeating something that was already said/asked.

Episode 4x06 / Re: Widmore on video
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:29:42 PM »
I'm wondering what it was that the guy did that upset Widmore so much that he personally beat the crap out of the guy.  Is it possible that Widmore discovered that information regarding the freighter was leaked to Ben?  And, how is it that the person videotaping the beat-down knew to be there at that precise time and location?  And, how is it that the video got back to Ben?  Did Charles actually let the person get away?  Would Charles have really been there alone which would give the person recording this a greater chance of getting away?

One event, many questions... welcome to the wonder that is Lost.

Episode 4x06 / Re: Whispers
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:18:38 PM »
So then Shaky would it be similar to Hurley seeing Charlie? It was similar in fashion when Harper confronts Juliet as Hurley and Charlie just no whispers.
Nah.. Hurley's just nuts. ;)

Episode 4x06 / Re: the Purge, take 2...
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:15:22 PM »
actually, based off of my experience in the military its quite the opposite, if they used the tempest (which i dont think is right next to othersville) not only would wind have to be blowing right, but these gases would eventually be above their head/eye level, the gas would rise slightly, so it would not have an effect

however, using gas canisters like Ben did with his dad would be more effective, and spread more easily from close distances then that of the tempest
I see your point but wasn't the system designed for this very purpose?  To gas the entire island?  Maybe there are many dispensers located around the island in order to create the required effect (instead of one central outlet for the gas)?

Episode 4x06 / Re: the Purge, take 2...
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:08:34 PM »
Sorry, I see Stagger and I were basically writing the same thing (I didn't see his until after I posted).

Episode 4x06 / Re: the Purge, take 2...
« on: March 07, 2008, 05:06:09 PM »
First of.... Ben didn't use the Tempest to "PURGE" the island the first time. Ben drives off with his dad and stops along the volanoe ridge at that point Ben and dad are talking about it being his mothers birthday and at that point Ben pulls a gas granade from his workers suit and slaps a gas mask on and pulls the pin. His dad dies instantly and it seems to be o.k. for Ben to breathe the air afterwards. Flash back to OTHERSVILLE and we find that anyone not with the PURGE has died and is lying scattered across the village. I would think that if the Tempest was used the first time Ben wouldn't have had to gas his dad.
I think that Ben gassed his dad with the canister for that personal touch that his dad so very much deserved.. to show him that he's the one taking his life.  I think the Tempest was used before to gas the Dharma folks since it would have taken quite a few grenades to gas them all out in the open air like that.  I would think the area affected by the gas would be subject to wind conditions and using individual grenades wouldn't have been as effective as a widespread gassing.  The folks seemed to have died right where they were... personally, if I see grenades being tossed in my direction, I'm hauling ass.

Episode 4x06 / Re: Whispers
« on: March 07, 2008, 04:57:52 PM »
I was thinking that maybe the whispers were in each person's head and that they were a result of maybe Jacob reading their minds.  Jacob draws from someone's memory and presents an image known to that person in order to convey a msg to them.  The sudden appearance and disappearance supports the idea that they're nothing more than images... images that can be shared by more than one person obviously since Jack was able to see Harper.

I think it was Jacob giving Juliette instructions but stating that it is Ben who wants the deed done because it has to be someone who Juliette would listen to.  We've no evidence that Ben has psychic abilities so how could Harper have been instructed to find Juliette (at a specific location and time in the pouring rain in the middle of the jungle) while being confined by Locke.  The whispers seem to occur just before people or things appear so, IMO, it must be Jacob getting stuff done.

Episode 4x06 / Re: who could be the man on the boat?
« on: March 07, 2008, 11:35:28 AM »
I think Walt is THE MAN on the boat working for Ben. I also think Michael is on the freighter but not workinig for Ben. When Ben kidnapped Walt that is when they could have set up the plans for Walt to work for Ben. When Ben told Michael which direction to leave the island he was sending them right to the freighter. The twist will be that we will assume it is Michael working for Ben when we see him on the boat but it is really Walt who is Ben's contact.
This is the theory that I'm buying.  Walt was being held for quite some time before being given back to Michael.  Adding the time with the Others (including his time spent being entertained in Room 23) and his unique abilities would lead me to believe that he'd be of the greatest use to Ben.  He's also young and impressionable which makes him great fodder for Ben.. perfect subject to brainwash into believing that the people on the freighter are the bad guys and Walt needs to help his friends who are on the island.  Walt's psyhic abilities (or whatever they are) would explain his ability to be able to communicate with Ben and provide information.  IMO, Michael's involvement in the operation would be limited to getting Walt onto the freighter.

I think Michael is too obstinant to go along with anything Ben wants... he'd only help if his son's life was in danger which it isn't (so far as we know anyway).

I also don't believe that Michael being Ben's man on the boat would shock Locke but Walt definitely would.  Locke and Walt had a relationship while most of Michael's relationship with Locke was restricted to his distrust of Locke and his wanting to keep him away from his son.

Episode 4x04 / Re: Locke, Miles and the Grenade
« on: February 22, 2008, 11:45:32 AM »
I have to think we're just seeing the progression of Locke's ability to do what's needed to be done.  He couldn't kill his father but he was able to have the killing take place at the hands of another.  Then, he was able to do it himself when he felt he had no choice but to kill Naomi just as the call was about to be connected to the boat.  Now, he's at least appearing to have the ability to be even more destructive (grenades are pretty messy).  I can't imagine the grenade is live as it would eliminate a source of information if Miles isn't able to hang onto it.  Miles knows that it was Locke who killed Naomi so he's fully aware that Locke is capable of murder.. that's gotta be pretty good incentive to not drop it.

Episode 4x04 / Re: Timeline alluded to by Kates mom,
« on: February 22, 2008, 11:23:27 AM »
I didnt pick it up word for word but during Kates convo with her mother, the mother mention it all changed 4 years ago or something like that
Kate's mother stated that she's been given 6 months to live for the last 4 yrs.

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