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Episode 6x16 / Jack didn't bless Hurley's water?

« on: May 24, 2010, 04:27:25 PM »

After Mother did it when she bequeathed Jacob, and Jacob did the same when he bequeathed Jack, now it seems all they had to do was dip some water out of a puddle and hand it to their replacement who then had to drink it.  No prayer needed?

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Episode 6x16 / Re: Numbers...Valenzetti....An....swer?

« on: May 24, 2010, 04:18:42 PM »

I never really knew how to treat the whole Valenzetti equation stuff.  It wasn't in the show itself, so I've never understood if its supposed to be canon, or not.  If it is, though, I like your theory!

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Episode 6x16 / Re: If you were Hurley...

« on: May 24, 2010, 03:59:41 PM »

Rule #1:  There will be no numbers with special meanings or implied curses
Rule #2:  The island will have its own bakery

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Episode 6x16 / Re: Favorite Lines from THE END

« on: May 24, 2010, 02:13:31 PM »

The one line that gave me chills(and I don't know it word for word) was when Jack was talking to Smokey and told him he wasn't John Locke and something about wearing his skin. Goosebumps!
And the line about Kate saving a bullet for him-Classic Kate!! Loved it!

Agree completely.  Man, I so wanted for somehow the real Locke to come and take over Smokey, or confront him in some way, but the way they did it was pretty good too.


yes. something about dishonering his name by wearing his face.......awesome.

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Episode 6x16 / Re: My musings on the finale (and I didn't like it)

« on: May 24, 2010, 02:03:28 PM »

I think the island was important, in that it provided the setting and the environment for the character's journeys.  They grew, matured, and changed due to the circumstances they were thrust into on the island, including all the crazy stuff on the island that they had to deal with. 

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Episode 6x16 / Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD

« on: May 24, 2010, 01:58:04 PM »

I think they all died with the crash of 815 and they were being tested in a kind of purgatory. Here are some hints, No women could have babies on the island,cancers and other ailments were cured, and the island was difficult to leave.

And than they died again on the island?

No, I mean, in the island timeline, everyone still on the island (really only Ben and Hurley) were still alive at the end of the episode.  The implication was they later died.  Those that left on the Ajira plane its also implied lived their lives and died at some later point.

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Episode 6x16 / Re: Unanswered Questions

« on: May 24, 2010, 01:26:56 PM »

anavrin, I was wondering if someone else was wondering the same as me about the following question...

*How did MIB become Smokey? Yet, Jack and Desmond and Hurley all went into the cavern and didn't become smoke monsters. Why MIB? Why didn't Jack become white smoke?

My theory is that the smoke monster was the devil in disguise as he could only take the form of dead people, but still how did he get released, just by having MiB fall into the hole? Wouldn't he have had to remove the "cork" and he obviously didn't. That is the only mystery bothering me. It just doesn't make sense.

This bothers me as well.  Not sure I buy the devil answer - Smoke monster's motives seemed too much in line with human MiB's motivations for Smokey to be someone else entirely.  Also, if he's the devil, where is "home" that he wants to go to?

But I do like the devil explanation in another sense.  I think the reason Jack / Desmond didn't "smokify" is because there can only be one smoke monster.  And there's only one devil I suppose.   

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Episode 6x16 / Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?

« on: May 24, 2010, 01:07:38 PM »

Ack!  My DVR stopped during "Bad Robot".  Do I even want to see this scene?  If so, anyone know if its on youtube or anything?

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Episode 6x16 / Re: Screencap Requests?

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:25:28 PM »

Was the church the same one that the Lamp Post station was in? 

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Episode 6x16 / Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:22:45 PM »

Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.

I Agree with you as well but I was just saying they were dead the whole time. They could have lived in this other dimension known as the "island" with mystical powers but Dead is Dead.

I need to rewatch tonight but I am pretty sure Christian affirmed that everything that happened on the island took place in reality.  They were not dead at that time.

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Episode 6x16 / Re: So who do you think was left whispering?

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:20:11 PM »

I'm confused about Ana Lucia.  She'd be on my "whisperer" list, only she did appear in the Alt, so I guess she wasn't one of them?

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Episode 6x16 / Re: My musings on the finale (and I didn't like it)

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:16:59 PM »

I understand your frustration.  I felt frustrated too as I started to realize that answers would not be forthcoming.  But then I accepted that and just tried to go along with the ride.  I thought the finale was excellent, given what they tried to do with it.  But a lot of people wanted answers, not what they ended up doing, and I can certainly see how this leaves them feeling unfulfilled. 

I think Darlton's biggest mistake was not being more forthright with the viewers a long time ago.  They waited until at least halfway through season 6 before they started hinting there may be no answers.  Meanwhile, they posed more and more questions, and dangled the promise of answers to get people to watch and, yes, make money for themselves and ABC.  So eevn though I think from the audience's standpoint it was a mistake, and if Darlton actually gave a damn about the audience, they'd think it was a mistake, in reality I think they're laughing all the way to the bank and think themselves to have done perfectly.

At this point I'd probably say something like "even though they seem like nice guys" - only, to be honest, they don't.  Most of the time in interviews, they come off as snarky, arrogant smart-asses, talking down to people who don't know the grand inside joke that only the two of them are privy to.     

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Episode 6x16 / Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:04:04 PM »

Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.

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Episode 6x16 / Re: Ancient Alien Cilivization?

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:02:43 PM »

Ideal prequel = Pigs in Space mixed with Stargate.  Explains the Glyphs, explains the wild boars  

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Episode 6x16 / Re: What lines do you WANT to hear in the finale?

« on: May 24, 2010, 12:00:38 PM »

Locke's wriggling toes:  check!

Yup, almost exactly as I'd hoped they'd do it.   Was great!