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Episode 5x14 / Detonations: Swan vs. Jughead?
« on: April 30, 2009, 02:18:31 AM »
How bad must the upcoming 'incident' be if detonating a hyrdogen bomb is preferable to letting whatever is going to happen at the Swan site happen?

Episode 5x12 / Is reincarnated Locke really Smokey?
« on: April 12, 2009, 03:20:37 AM »
Just thinking about this, and, it occurs to me that after Ben summoned Smokey, only Locke appeared.  No Smokey as Ben expected.  Then Smokey only appears later once Locke is left behind above where the floor collapsed.  Then, and only then, when Ben is apart from Locke does Smokey appear in his familiar form.  We then only see Locke again after Smokey is gone.  And Smokey (in the form of Alex) tells Ben to listen to Locke, or else.

I say Ben is right.  Dead is dead.  You don't get to come back from death.  That's not really Locke walking around.  It is, in fact, Smokey taking Locke's form.  That's why Smokey doesn't appear (as the smoke monster) when summoned - he can't appear in that form, because he's already there, in the form of Locke.  And although I can come up with other reasons why Smokey, as Alex, might be a wee bit pissed at Ben for already plotting the demise of Locke, yet again, if Smokey is Locke it fits in with "Alex" telling Ben to listen to Locke, or else. 

Episode 5x12 / Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« on: April 11, 2009, 09:11:57 PM »
The first time Ben summoned Smokey, in Season 4, he emerged from the Ben Cave looking, well, rather charred - as if he'd just been through the fires of hell, or immersed in a cloud of smoke.  This time, nothing of the sort.  What gives? 

In any case, I now leave you with the lyrics to an old song by the group ABC, entitled "When Smokey Sings"... probably no relation at all to Lost, but what the heck...

Debonair lullabies in melodies revealed

In deep despair on lonely nights

He knows just how you feel

The slyest rhymes - the sharpest suits

In miracles made real

Like a bird in flight on a hot sweet night

You know youre right just to hold her tight

He soothes it right - makes it outtasite

And everythings good in the world tonight!

When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

The front door might slam

But the back door it rings

And smokey sings...he sings

Elegance in eloquence - for sale or rent or hire

Should I say - yes I match his best

Then I would be a liar

Symphonies that soothe the rage

When lovers hearts catch fire

Like a bird in flight on a hot sweet night

You know youre right just to hold her tight

He soothes it right - makes it outtasite

And everythings good in the world tonight!

When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

Smashing the hell

With the heaven she brings

Then smokey sings...he sings

Luther croons

Slys the original - originator

James screams

Marvin was the only innovator

But nothing can compare

Nothing can compare

When smokey sings

When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

She threw back the ring

When smokey sings...

Smokey sings...

Smokey sings...

Episode 5x10 / An interesting connection?
« on: March 26, 2009, 03:10:22 AM »
I was struck a bit by the similarities between tonight's opening scene (where Sayid's brother is supposed to kill the chicken but Sayid does it for him) and a few other past events.  a) very similar to Eko's first flashback where he too kills so that his brother won't have to and b) Also similar to Locke claiming credit for Sawyer's killing of Cooper.

Probably means little in the larger scheme of things, but interesting none-the-less.

Episode 5x07 / Locke vs. Christian?
« on: February 26, 2009, 12:31:41 PM »
So... arriving back at the island is enough to resurrect John's corpse???  I gotta say I was a little surprised by that - I figured Miles would need to be there to communicate with Locke.  I will still be very interested to see how Miles perceives Locke if/when they reunite. 

In any case, as for Locke, the plane crashes, he opens the lid to the casket, gets up, walks out, and is none the worse for wear, thank you very much.  Sounds an awful lot like what happened in the case of Christian, too.  More and more I am thinking that Christian has been to the island before.   And more and more I'm thinking that the process of recreating flight 815 with flight 316 was more accurate than is first apparent - like, we need a dead guy who has been to the Island before in a casket in the plane's cargo hold.     

Episode 5x05 / Locke's leg injury?
« on: February 18, 2009, 03:10:05 PM »
When Locke fell down the well, did he end up with a really nasty looking compound fracture, or did something sharp on the ground pierce his leg?  At first I thought like a sharp stick punctured him, but then I thought he must have broken his leg and that was his bone sticking out.  But now today in Jeff Jensen's column over at EW previewing 316, it seems to say that he did land on something sharp.  Any ideas which one it is?

Episode 5x03 / Painting in Widmore's office...
« on: January 30, 2009, 01:00:37 AM »
Did anyone else notice the painting in Widmore's office when Desmond barges in on him?  I hope I'm not posting something everyone else has noticed - but i quickly browsed the subject of the other threads on the forum for this episode and didn't see anything about it.  Its there on the right side during the wide shot when Widmore, Desmond, Widmore's secretary and the other man (security for Widmore?) are all in view.   It seems to say "NAMASTE" across the top, shows part of an old man's face (Widmore, I think) looking down as a seemingly giant polar bear attacks a villiage (Otherville?). In the top right of the painting there's the fact of someone else - its sort of distorted, almost in flames....

Episode 3x21 / Naomi & the passage of time
« on: May 21, 2007, 01:40:21 PM »
Based on what Jack said last night, its been about 90 days since the crash.  That means Naomi arrived approx 85-90 days after the crash.  She tells Charlie that Drive Shaft's Greatest Hits was released in his memory following the crash.  Has the recording industry ever conceived a CD and released it that quickly?  It seems to me it almost always takes at least 6 months, minimum.  Moreover, this is subjective but Naomi seemed to be talking about all of this as if it was a while ago.  When she had her conversation with Hurley in the previous episode, she also talks about the crash as if it were a while ago.  And lastly, Sayid says her phone is really advanced - perhaps as if it came from the future? So I am just wondering, as far as Naomi (and the outside world) is concerned, has it really been 90 days since the crash?

EDIT:  I see that this has already been discussed in another thread.  Please disregard.

Episode 3x18 / Ok, so just who is Jin's real dad?
« on: April 26, 2007, 12:28:34 PM »
I haven't had a chance yet to read through all of the other threads on last night's episode, so sorry if my musings have already been discussed...

It seems like the producers just opened up the possibility that Jin's real dad is not the kindly old fisherman that Jin believed was his father his entire life.  Ok, it still could be, but even the fisherman is unsure.  So my question is, if the fisherman is not Jin's biological father, than who?  Father issues seem to play too much of a role on this show not to wonder...

And that leads me to an interesting possibility...what if, back in his wilder days, Sun's dad engaged the services of Jin's mom, who, after all, had "been with many men".  Its not like the writers have ever gone down that road before ***cough*** Boone ***cough*** Shannon ***cough***, right?

Ok, granted, I don't have any real evidence of that, but it a) seems like the type of thing the producers might do, b) Jin does seem to be, ethnically, 100% Korean, and given that, c) Sun's dad is the only other character we've encountered so far that fits the bill as a possible alternate father for Jin.   

So am I nuts?  Out of my twisted, sick mind?  Or are we likely to see Jin's mom and Sun's dad in the same flashback down the road?

Also, anyone catch these three ironies revealed in Sun's flashbacks?  First, by being with more than one man, the identity of the father of Sun's son, like the identity of Jin's father, almost became a mystery.  And second, by trying to protect Jin from shame, she caused Jin to enter the part of her father's organization that ended up causing all of their marital trouble.  Finally, third, if Sun suspected the nature of her father's activities, why was she shocked, just *shocked*, when Jin started changing, coming home with blood on his shirt etc.?   

Episode 3x08 / Charlie in Des's flash(back?) - importance?
« on: February 15, 2007, 01:36:06 PM »
Just an observation.  In Desmond's flashback/forward/sideways/whatever last night, he was reliving past events with some variations from the original events.  So I post this qestion - was Charlie's presence in Des's flashback one of those variations, or was Charlie really there when those events originally happened? 

Consider this.   Suppose Charlie really wasn't there in the original events, but only shows up now as Des relives these events in his mind.  If that's the case, then Des is, for whatever reason, interjecting an element of what's happening in the present (Charlie) into his perception of his past memories. 

So I pose this question - asuming that this is what happened last night to Des, can one make the leap that this is the same thing that has been happening to all of the other characters in their flashbacks all along - that characters are interjecting aspects or people from the present into aspects of the past?  In other words, is this an explanation for why so many characters appear in other character's flashbacks?  Is the only difference that in Desmond's flashback, he is aware that something is amiss - that what he is seeing in the flashback is not quite what really happened -  while the other characters are oblivious to the differences between what really happened and what they see in the flashback?

Minor Survivors / Question from: MachThree
« on: October 26, 2006, 02:41:33 PM »
In the episode where Rose revealed that she had cancer, did she reveal what kind of cancer that it was?  Any chance that it was her x-ray in 3x04?

Specific Episodes / Question from MachThree
« on: March 02, 2006, 02:10:41 AM »
In investigation 47, you show a shot of a dream Claire had before Ethan took her, showing a similar crib and mobile as seen in Maternity Leave.  What episode was the first dream in?

Misc. / Question from MachThree
« on: December 12, 2005, 01:45:30 PM »
You answered another question by stating that the third grave is occupied by Scott (the man who killed Ethan) - what happened to the remains of the Marshall?  Isn't the third grave his?

Character Connections / Question from MachThree
« on: November 11, 2005, 01:32:12 PM »
As far as we know, have any of the survivors pieced together their past coincidental encounters / relationships, except for Jack and Sawyer?

Main Survivors / Question from MachThree
« on: October 21, 2005, 08:25:55 PM »
You now list Kate as "Kate Dodd" - up until a few weeks ago, I think you had her as Kate Austin.  Where did the new last name come from?

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