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Episode 6x16 / Re: Plane Flying Over Jack
« on: May 24, 2010, 03:32:34 PM »

The biggest bit of evidence here, and I've said this in 4 different posts, is what Christian said to Jack in the last 10 mins of the episode: "Everyone dies kiddo, some before you some long after."


And if they all died in the crash then of what significance is Ben and his story, or Danielle, or any of the freighter people.

It is utterly ridiculous to assert that they all died in the crash.

Not to mention Kate saying to Jack "I've missed you sooo much" when she talked to him one-on-one in the ALT...that pretty much speaks to her having missed Jack for all the years after she left the island without him.

Oh, man. That's a great catch. I was wondering why she said "I've missed you so much." Love it.

Episode 6x16 / Re: Plane Flying Over Jack
« on: May 24, 2010, 03:29:53 PM »
Awesome. Thanks, gang. Totally makes sense. I was already there on that idea, but I just wanted to make sure my thinking was right and others were on the same page.

The whole idea to the end of this show, in my opinion, is incredible.

Episode 6x16 / Plane Flying Over Jack
« on: May 24, 2010, 02:41:05 PM »
So, i'm trying to figure out one thing... As jack is laying down in the bamboo, about to die, he sees the Ajira plane fly overhead. On this plane is Frank, Richard, Miles, James, Kate, and Claire.

So, this is the real, live reality. They are alive and making their way off the island. Did they live the rest of their lives in reality (say 30-40 years more, at best) before they died and then met up with everyone else in the ALT timeline /purgatory/meeting place?

What do you guys think? I think it's safe to say the island was reality and they were alive. And they definitely made it off the island. When those characters actually died is what I'm trying to put together with what is possible.

Episode 6x14 / Re: The Rules of the game....
« on: May 15, 2010, 07:19:52 PM »
Wow! This is a really good find!

I wonder if there really is something special about this game in relation to the "game" and "rules" set up by Jacob and MIB (and their "fake mother"). The game is Egyptian and has a lot to do with numbers. Why assign each candidate to a specific number?

Very interesting...!

LOST Talk / Re: TPTB's plan to make even more money
« on: May 15, 2010, 03:41:26 PM »
This show has (and still is, imho) done it's job very well. It's taken us out of our lives every week, and, even further, into forums and websites digging for information to try to figure out what is going on. A lot of people seem to think they are going to be 100% disappointed with what we will be given in the next 2 episodes. I really don't think we are going to be left disappointed. It may not go where some people "want" it go to, but it will go somewhere nonetheless. Get ready for the finale, because it's going to pack a punch.

Episode 6x13 / Re: Jack knows its a game?
« on: May 05, 2010, 09:57:58 PM »
Remember Tom from the Others with Michael? Michael was getting ready to shoot himself with a pistol and Tom came and stopped him. He told him that the island wouldn't let him die, even off the island. He even told him to pull the trigger and see what happens; it'll just click, over and over. I believe the same is true for Jack.

Episode 6x13 / Re: What did Locke say?
« on: May 05, 2010, 09:49:17 PM »
They were just lines that he said from the island timeline. "Push the button" was a memory from the button in the hatch. And he also said "I wish you'd believed me" was a line he said to Jack about the whole island-purpose-destiny thing going on. These were memories from the other timeline.

Episode 6x10 / Re: Desmond not 'ready' yet?
« on: April 12, 2010, 04:43:29 PM »
It seems like they are hinting that blowing up the bomb and causing the ATL may have created this 'false' life and so was a bad idea.  Daniel believes he should not have done it (or caused Jack to follow through and do it).  This confuses me because they have been letting Jack emerge as a confident hero who now believes in his destiny, so to go back now and say the bomb was the wrong thing to do brings him back to being a bumbling idiot.  It didn't make sense to me, until I just rewatched Desmond's scene with Eloise.  She told him to stop looking for whatever it is he is looking for because he 'isn't ready yet'.  This gave me another idea.

What if everyone is only being kept in the dark about their true lives temporarily?  Right now, on the island, it's 2007/2008 (They were lost for about three months or so, then the Oceanic six were home for three years before returning, right?).  The MIB is making progress in his escape.  Jacob is dead, he has recruited a small army and is ready to face Widmore.  In the ATL, everyone is still alive and going on with their lives, oblivious to the battle at play.  But it is still only 2004.  So what if Eloise had to let Daniel go back to the island, even knowing he would die, because the bomb was the only way to prevent the 'catastrophic event' that Daniel referred to, which would be MIB's escape.  We already know that the bomb didn't prevent the hatch from being built or keep Dharma from ever finding the island, but it created the alternate reality where all the players are accounted for.  Maybe, when they are 'ready', they will be recruited to return to the island, better prepared to defeat the MIB before he defeats 'them' (from the original timeline) to make his escape.

This raises one more question.  If everyone is still alive in the ATL of 2004, is Jacob also among them?  The island is underwater which would suggest he isn't, but he has travelled to the mainlands before.  Could he also be part of the ATL, awaiting his time to return to the island of the original timeline to defeat the MIB, his own 'loophole', maybe?  Or if he is truly dead and sunk with the island, could that be the reason he needs to be replaced?  Maybe only someone from an alternate reality can replace him and that person would then also be seemingly ageless, becoming truly a new Jacob.

#1, Jacob's army does not appear to be against widmore they are against MIB
#2 - It can't be 2004 still as desmond was shot by Ben in 2007, as Widmore explained he was taken from the hospital "After" being shot by Ben.

#2 - It's 2007 in the regular LOST timeline, but in the Alternate Timeline, it's 2004.

Episode 6x06 / Re: ALMOST TIME!!
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:53:43 PM »

Episode 6x04 / Re: Who is number 108?
« on: February 24, 2010, 07:58:02 PM »
108 is all of the candidates combined.

4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108.

Yes, I believe this was mentioned twice in the thread already. 

Oh okay! Sorry. I scanned through the thread really fast and didn't see anything about it. I thought it was pretty obvious...

Episode 6x04 / Re: Who is number 108?
« on: February 24, 2010, 07:36:49 PM »
108 is all of the candidates combined.

4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108.

Episode 5x16 / Re: Possible "Esau" Theory Flaw
« on: May 15, 2009, 12:18:04 AM »
Specifically, the conversation between dead-Locke and Jacob being a continuation from the conversation at the start of the episode.

I agree completely. It is definitely Esau. But that's why I brought up those 2 ideas. They are just puzzling me. They just seem... slightly out of place from what we now know about 'Esau' and how he has been carrying himself as Locke. I'm nothing more than intrigued by the two, but am just throwing it out there, and am anxious to possibly get answers to them in Season 6.

Episode 5x16 / Re: Claire on the Dark Side? (and other musings)
« on: May 15, 2009, 12:08:42 AM »
Maybe like the Chronicles of Narnia, Jacob lets himself be killed, because he knows of a deeper magic which will turn back the clock and negate death.  Wouldn't be the first time the show has referenced c.s. lewis

I agree with this completely. He stepped toward Ben when Ben went to kill him.

Episode 5x16 / Re: Richardus or Richardos?
« on: May 15, 2009, 12:01:36 AM »

Episode 5x16 / Possible "Esau" Theory Flaw
« on: May 14, 2009, 11:55:13 PM »
One thing that is troubling me about this whole "'Esau' dude having control of Locke's body theory" is when Richard, Locke, and the others finally reach the statue of the foot. I forget the exact dialogue, but Locke sees the statue of the foot and says "So what, it's a statue of a foot." Richard says, "This is it, Jacob lives here." The expression on John Locke's face, after hearing this, is huge. He is totally surprised and blown away by this information.

Now, we know the 'Esau' dude knew about the location of the statue of the foot, it's significance, AND that Jacob lived there. If this resurrected Locke were really a disguised 'Esau'...

1) Why did he need Richard to take him to Jacob? Richard said numerous times that they should wait to go to Jacob. If this were 'Esau', wouldn't he have just said "Fine, whatever. I know where to find Jacob anyway. See you later!" Why did he HAVE to have Richard lead the way? Don't you think this new confident John Locke claiming to have all this new information (having been told by the island itself, as he said) would have said "I don't need you to show me to Jacob, I know exactly where he is. The island told me!" In my opinion, that would definitely spark a lot more confidence from everyone else that Locke is a true leader and knows everything. If this were 'Esau' in a Locke disguise, he would've known how to get to Jacob. Why have Richard lead the way?...

2) Why was he so surprised to find out this is where Jacob lived? He was genuinely surprised to learn that Jacob lived in the foot of the statue. But 'Esau' knew this is where Jacob lived. So, why so surprised? Could this just be acting on 'Esau''s part? Playing the part of a dumbfounded John Locke so that he wouldn't seem like he knew too much to actually be John Locke? But, if that's the case, why just act here? This entire time, he's been claiming to know all new information concerning a wide variety of things, because "the island told him." I don't know, it's hard to imagine him having to put on an act here, especially after having Richard and Ben follow him into the jungle to run an "errand," in which Locke knew the exact year and time that he was going to show up with a bullet in his leg.'

I love the idea of this 'Esau' character disguising himself as people who are dead on the island; it seems to fit and tie in so well with what's going on right now. But, these two questions are going through my mind, and I'm having a hard time putting my finger on why this supposed 'Esau' character would have done these things, if he were actually the real face behind the John Locke mask. He knew Jacob's location, why did he HAVE to have Richard lead the way? And why was he surprised to hear that this is where Jacob lived?

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