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Other shows / Orphan Black
« on: May 30, 2014, 05:09:03 PM »
Even though I am currently two episodes behind (the show is currently Season 2, episode 4), I've really enjoyed Orphan Black.  It reminds me a little of Alias (strong female lead, international intrigue).  It is a Canadian show (based in Toronto) and has a good pace.  If you haven't found it yet, it airs on BBC America.  AND... if you have Amazon Prime, you can watch season 1 for free!  (I plane-binged to get through the first season.)

Any other fans out there?

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LOST Talk / Hurley's top moments...
« on: June 08, 2010, 08:00:11 PM »
Okay... I saw this link on Facebook and thought it warranted some discussion here... what are Hurley's top 5 moments on Lost?  Here's what the votes on ABC's Lost website said:

http://abc.go.com/shows/lost/top-five-lists/463157?a=topview

I am surprised that the whole exchange between Miles and Hurley regarding time travel isn't on the list.  It's one of my all-time favorite Lost moments.  There's also a van reference, but it's when Hurley came to the rescue in the van, not when he got it started (which I thought was kind of an iconic Hurley moment... breaking the bad luck in his head.)  What do you guys think?  Does this thread belong somewhere else?  Not sure where people are visiting these days, so I wanted to make sure it was seen.

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Episode 6x16 / If you were Hurley...
« on: May 24, 2010, 02:56:06 PM »
Hurley's the new chief.  Apparently, he now has the chance to change the rules.  Presumably, he's also going to need to find someone to replace him.  What rules would YOU put in place?  How would you select someone to replace you? (Jacob looked for flawed people that needed the Island as much as the Island needed them... would you shoot for someone a little less flawed?)

Hurley: It's my job now. What the hell am I supposed to do?
Ben: I think you do what you do best. Take care of people. You can start by helping Desmond get home.
Hurley: But how? People can't leave the island.
Ben: That's how Jacob ran things. Maybe there's another way, a better way.
Hurley: You'll help me?
Ben: I'm sorry?
Hurley: I could use someone, with experience, for a little while. So you'll help me Ben?
Ben: I'd be honored.
Hurley: Cool.

(Thanks EricD543... I got the above from his Screencap section)

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Episode 6x16 / Did Locke have to die?
« on: May 24, 2010, 05:17:05 AM »
Once the "cork" was removed and Jack and Locke had become mortal, did it really matter anymore if Locke left the island?  I'm guessing no.  (Other than he would have stolen Sawyer and Kate's ride.)  Since Jack was still able to die after the "cork" was put back in, I am guessing Locke would have remained mortal, too.  I'm also speculating that world was out of danger from Locke the moment the cork came out... and was out of danger from the light being out once Jack put the cork back in.  Does that make shooting Locke less about need and more about revenge?

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Episode 6x15 / Is Widmore dead?
« on: May 19, 2010, 04:17:52 AM »
Seemingly, the rules were set in place that Ben and Widmore couldn't harm one another.  Is it possible that Ben shot Widmore in an effort to actually save him?  If Ben believed that Locke was about to kill Widmore, Ben shoots him knowing that he can't actually kill him but preventing Locke from hurting Widmore, and thus actually sparing him. (Possibly allowing Widmore to play a part in the end-game.)

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Episode 6x13 / Does someone need to be left behind?
« on: April 20, 2010, 08:08:49 PM »
Locke (Flocke / MiB / etc) said that he needed to get everyone together so they could leave the island... similar to the process for those that came back to the island.  But he also told Ben that the island needs a new Jacob (paraphrasing).  Are these ideas contradicting?  Can the person that is left behind be a "non-candidate"? (At least, as far as we are defining candidates.)  Or does Locke need all of the candidates dead so he can finally leave the island and is gathering them for some nefarious plan that would lead to their deaths?

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Episode 6x15 / What "They" Died For... Speculation?
« on: April 20, 2010, 08:02:13 PM »
Who is they?  Do we have a coming blood bath of Losties?  For some reason, I have a feeling that Sayid is a goner (maybe after righting himself, so to speak).  I'm worried about Jin and / or Sun... one saving the other.  And I am most afraid for Hurley... they've been setting him up as the cuddly bear for the longest time... how gut wrenching would it be to lose him in the last couple of episodes? (Almost "Harry Potter"-esque.)

Other thoughts and reasons?

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Episode 6x07 / Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« on: March 17, 2010, 03:59:36 AM »
There's a big part of me that wants to say "not Widmore or his people."  If that is true, does that only leave MiB?  It didn't seem like they had a bunch of bullet holes in them (or any blood whatsoever).

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Episode 6x07 / Flash Sideways are about Redemption
« on: March 17, 2010, 03:55:00 AM »
This episode reinforced the concept (to me) that the flash sideways are about redemption.  In every episode we've seen, the flash sideways deals with one of the Losties going against their known grain to try and do the right thing.  (Kate selflessly caring for Claire, Locke letting other help him, Jack breaking the daddy issues cycle, Ben trying to do right by Alex, and Sawyer being a cop.)  I don't know how this will tie back to the island story, but I have faith that it will.  That said, I would love thoughts / ideas / suggestions on how this theme might be tied back to the island story.

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Episode 6x05 / Poll: Jin and Customs
« on: March 09, 2010, 07:46:03 PM »
If you have ever spent time at LAX (or LA X), you probably know that it is about the most inefficient airport in the world.  I'm thinking Jin would still be in Customs (after being detained by Customs Officials) for the better part of this season unless something miraculous happened.  Since we say him at Keamy's restaurant last week (want some eggs?), we know that miracles must happen.  What miracle do you think occurred?

PS  Yes... this is completely tongue-in-cheek... and about 5 days too late.

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Episode 6x05 / THEORY: Everyone is where Jacob needs them to be
« on: March 03, 2010, 04:29:34 AM »
Currently, this is a bit of a half-assed theory, but I am thinking that those that Jacob touched are exactly where he needs them to be including Sayid.

Jacob specifically got Jack and Hurley out of the Temple, but didn't prevent Kate from going back in when Hurley and Jack ran into her on their trek to the Lighthouse.  Jacob did not tell Hurley to take Sayid even though he knew something bad was coming.  Sun is with Ilana (one of Jacob's peeps) while Jin is "behind enemy lines" in Claire's camp.  Sawyer is... well, who the hell knows where Sawyer is (this could be a slight hole in all of this).  But Sawyer has already acknowledged that Locke ain't Locke.

To me, it just seems that Jacob is only moving his chess pieces (those he touched) when he specifically has to (ie, Hurley and Jack).  Thoughts?

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Season 6 / Could it be... a Paradox? (There's that word again)
« on: February 10, 2010, 03:58:19 AM »
Okay... time travel is once again hurting my head.  Let me ramble for a moment and see if I make sense.  If I make no sense, please simply put me back on my drugs so I can fall back into my stupor... however, if you can understand this and agree or disagree, please help me understand!

First time around: Oceanic 815 crashes.  Things happen.  5 survivors (and Aaron) get off the island.  All 5 (minus Aaron) try to come back.  4 of the 5 (sort of like dentists) go back in time.  While back in time, they detonate a nuclear bomb that will conceptually stop the plane from ever crashing in the first place.

Second time around: Oceanic 815 flies safely over what was the island (except it is underwater).  They live happily ever after.  More importantly, they don't go back in time.  Since they don't go back in time, they aren't there to blow up a bomb to keep them from crashing in the first place.

Ergo, they have to crash to prevent themselves from crashing.

Ummmm... mama said what?  What am I missing here?

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Season 6 / "Invocation" for the final season of Lost
« on: February 09, 2010, 02:07:18 PM »
Thought I would share the Doc Jensen article as I am "featured" at the beginning of it (the little poem):

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20342468,00.html

Two shout outs... first, I totally would have never done this had I not been involved with this amazing community.  It may be dorky (okay... almost definitely dorky), but it's a nod to the great people that are around here that I actually posted it here (and only here).  Second, thanks to Lil for providing the muse as she wrote a Lost Carol for the now famous holiday, Lost Eve, that was in the form of "'Twas the night before Christmas".  Thanks Lil!

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Episode 6x01 / Events in 1977 that seem to appear in "alt timeline"
« on: February 03, 2010, 06:00:39 PM »
I'm seeing some of these thoughts across various threads and was wondering if it made sense to have a consolidated place to talk about them.  For example:

Since this is a Jack thread, let'd discuss the big issues - like what happened to his hair? No more 2004 buzz cut, he's still rocking out in his 1970's Dharma hair with graying sideburns. What's up with that?

Also, Sawyer's haircut and shave is not like it was in the pilot episode.

Let's assume that these things are not a by-product of the filming process (ie, since the actors are filming both timelines at the same time, they have to have the same hair)... it doesn't seem like it is just a coincidence that they have some of the same physical features as they did just before the bomb went off (obviously not all as everyone had gotten the crap beaten out of them).  What else?  How does this work?

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Episode 5x16 / Has Richard been manipulating Ben all this time?
« on: May 20, 2009, 03:43:44 AM »
If Ben never met Jacob before this episode, how do we know that Jacob was the one that was giving Ben instructions all this time?  Could it be AJ / Man-in-Black (MIB) / Esau / Evil dude / etc and Richard manipulating the guy who thought he was the master manipulater all this time?  Setting Ben up to take the fall???

Also, is it possible that Ben has never been the real leader of the Others and that is why he was never able to meet Jacob?

My apologies to all those who lover our guyliner man!

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