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TV & Movies / Inception
« on: August 10, 2010, 04:23:23 PM »
Great flick! Interesting idea to have the ability to steal information from a person's mind. The ending is one which will get talked about I'm sure  ;)  ;D

Episode 6x11 / Best Lines of the Night
« on: April 13, 2010, 10:11:01 PM »
Everybody loves Hugo. You know who doesn't? Women


Theories & Speculation / I think I understand....
« on: April 07, 2010, 10:18:49 AM »
This came to me at 5:30am after waking from a dream about the sunken island, entering one of the DHARMA barracks and seeing in green lettering “SU/DL” on a white board. (yes I know that sounds insane but bear with me)

I think Desmond is going to be the catalyst for merging the SU/DL (same universe/different LOST). The flash-sideways are the result of the nuclear bomb going off in 1977 as is the present time. Sayid said something like when they were in the Swan station he hadn’t seen construction like that since Chernobyl. The Swan was built to cover the radiation and prevent the sudden release of the temporal energies of the island.  We knew the latter and can surmise the former. What I think the bomb did was release (in limitation) the hold the island had on the smoke monster. In this case, effect precedes cause from our point of view. We know that in 2004, Smokie was roaming the island. The bomb went off in 1977 only through the interaction of people from 2004 going to 1977.

Now it’s been said that if Smokie were to leave the island, the world as they know would be gone. That would be “replaced” with the SU/DL. In the SU/DL – all the people brought to the island by Jacob would be prevented from getting there…… the Black Rock sailed right past the island, Flight 815 flew over, the French science team passed the island. DHARMA, the US Army – came of their own volition. This would explain the DHARMA barracks and the intact statue…. Time changed post-1977 in that the island sank by unknown means, perhaps by something Smokie would be able to do if he were to leave the island by what I’m guessing would be through time itself.

In the SU/DL, Widmore is concerned about his company, not the island. Desmond is an active participant in Widmore’s operation. However, there are signs that the “correct” sequence of events are bleeding into the SU/DL: Charlie, with his mind in a different state, got a glimpse of that, Faraday (now Widmore) can recall physics (which is mathematical like music), Desmond now sees it with his contact with Penny (his constant). I think Widmore and Hawking of the “correct” sequence are working to fix whatever happened. Hawking, however, seems to be a temporal double-agent in that she tried to prevent Desmond from meeting Penny in the SU/DL.

Interesting sidenote – Desmond told Jack at one point that he’d see him “in another life”. We are now working on three: pre-island, post-island and SU/DL.

Episode 6x08 / Black Rock
« on: March 23, 2010, 10:29:34 PM »
Prison ship - headed to the "New World" of Australia.  ;D You heard it here first....  :D

As the ship was heading to Australia, it's my belief she was a prison ship even tho Locke said slaves. During the 18th and early 19th century, to alleviate over crowded prisons, sentences were pased sending criminals to the colony of Australia to populate the place. After a year or more of indentured servitude, you went free to do as you will. The mining equipment is another clue. There is book entitled The Floating Brothel that gives the story of one such ship.

Episode 6x03 / favorite lines
« on: February 16, 2010, 10:24:44 PM »
Hugo: Randy Nations? Yeah that guy is a real douche

Episode 5x12 / Egypt & the Island
« on: April 08, 2009, 11:05:44 PM »
More Egyptian - Anubis kneeling before the "smoke monster"; the lower chamber looked like an Egyptian temple; more heiroglyphs on the columns....need a closer look at it all  :)

Episode 5x03 / Nuclear Test
« on: January 28, 2009, 11:08:03 PM »
There was a test code-named Jughead:

The Mike design was actually converted into a deliverable weapon, demonstrating that lithium deuteride is not essential to making a usable weapon. The weaponized design, designated the TX-16, went into engineering development in June 1952 (5 months before the Ivy Mike test). The design eliminated the cryogenic refrigerator, reduced the weight of the tamper, drastically reduced the dimensions and mass of the casing, used a lighter and less powerful primary, and pared the weight in other areas. The expected yield was reduced to 7 Mt. The device was about 60 inches in diameter, 25 ft long, and weighed 30,000 lb. This weapon design would have been filled with liquid deuterium at a cryogenic filling station before take-off, a reservoir in the weapon held sufficient liquid hydrogen to replace boil-off losses during flight. Components for about five of these bombs were built in late 1953, and had reached deplyment by the time of the Castle tests.

A unit of the TX-16, code named Jughead, was slated for proof test detonation on 22 March 1954 as part of the Castle series, prior to its expected deployment as the EC-16 (Emergency Capability) gravity bomb in May 1954. The excellent results with the solid-fueled Shrimp device in the Castle Bravo test on 1 March(see below) resulted in the cancellation of this test, and then of the entire EC-16 program on 2 April 1954.

Episode 4x13 / The Cave and the Wheel
« on: June 04, 2008, 10:27:34 AM »

Seeing this picture over and over in the "come again" thread made me look at it closer. The wheel appears to form a bagua around its pivot point. Extrapolating from the observed spokes of the wheel, you get an eight-pointed star. Joining the spokes are square rather than curved pieces - these form an octogram and it appears there are two rows of this.

In Christianity, the eight-pointed star is called the Star of Redemption or Regeneration and represents baptism. Could be that Ben working the wheel was his attempt at redemption with Jacob. Since "things went bad" after Jack et al left, it couldbe the island underwent a baptism of fire (which it kinda did when Keamy and his minions assaulted the island)

The symbols on the cave column appears to be crude heiroglyphics, possibly Egyptian (which matches closer). There are some which are only partially visible so any attempt at translation would be incomplete. Just under the lantern is what looks to be the symbol for water (N) and just under that a chick figure (long O or short U or W). Below that, there is a symbol that looks like a 'w' over a rectangle - this is the glyph for "papyrus/scroll", meaning "teach" or "to know".

I am not certain about the other symbols - the three lines could represent a plural (but if you look at it close, it looks like "HI" written backward)  :-\

If anyone has more insight, feel free.. Oh and I agree with Thlay - it looks more like rabbit poo - possibly a warren of rabbits controlled the wheel then disappeared  ;)

Episode 4x13 / Best Line of the Night
« on: May 29, 2008, 10:28:44 PM »
BEN: Couldn't find the antheriums could you?
LOCKE: I didn't know what they looked like

Ladies & Gentlemen - Laurel and Hardy have arrived on the island...... :D

Episode 4x11 / Mystery Tales #40
« on: May 23, 2008, 02:41:51 PM »
Looking at the story titles for this comic - there are some obvious and not so obvious references to current events on the island.....
April 1956

Story Info:

The Hidden Land
    - reference to the island...
A Warning Voice
    - reference to Ben?? they are coming to kill us/move is "dangerous and unpredictable"
The Travellers    
    - reference to the Oceanic 6 as well as those on the island when it moves
Crossroads of Destiny!
    - reference to Locke fulfilling his purpose on the island??
Sammy's Secret
    - ???
The Silent Stranger
    - reference to Jacob??
March Has 32 Days
     - reference to time displacement on the island?

In another thread, pages from teh comic are available - I look forward to reading them   :)

Episode 4x11 / Richard Alpert-Immortal?
« on: May 14, 2008, 03:05:54 PM »
In thinking about it, could be that there is some time travel involved, but how about this - Richard Alpert is a man who never "dies". There is a figure, supposedly, in history that never "died" either - Comte St Germain.

Just a brief thought.

Episode 4x05 / Slaughterhouse Five
« on: February 28, 2008, 11:12:37 PM »
This episode was cool! The plot theme was being unstuck in time like the main character Billy Pilgrim in Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five. The character was bouncing around various points of his life - hard book to get into which I now have to try again!  ;D

Theories & Speculation / The Numbers & US Presidents
« on: February 14, 2008, 03:56:42 PM »
I wondered what else the numbers could represent and for some reason, I thought of presidents. Looking at each president and what occurred in their term I found an odd coincidence relating to each season of the show:

4 - James Madison: father of the Bill of Rights, father of the Constitution

SEASON 1 - the survivors begin to create their society on the island;
                 Jack takes charge

8 - Martin van Buren: Aroostok War: conflict with Great Britain over international boundary

SEASON 2 - inital conflicts with the Others

15 - James Buchanan: Bleeding Kansas: conflict between slavers and anti-slavers; secession of South Carolina

SEASON 3 - increased conflict with the Others; Locke shows more agressive resistance to Jack

16 - Abraham Lincoln: Civil War

SEASON 4 - Survivors are now in two camps with opposing views

23 - Benjamin Harrison: Pan-American Congress: cooperation established between North, Central and South America

SEASON 5 - ??? (possible conflict resolution?)

42 - Bill Clinton: expansion of american economy; foreign relations

SEASON 6 - ???

Just a thought. I'm not sure about the last two (especially Clinton) and how itcould "define" the season....

Websites / just plain fun :D
« on: December 07, 2007, 04:03:27 PM »

Official LOST Sites and Material / ABC LOST Site
« on: December 04, 2007, 12:08:31 PM »
Has anyone watched the 'Missing Pieces' segments? I have one question - who in the heck is 'Frogurt'??? I don't remember him. Oh, and the one segment can make one look at Michael sympathetically  :-\

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