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Episode 6x04 / Rousseau/Claire Similarities and Differences
« on: February 25, 2010, 03:57:08 AM »
Would those who have watched older epi's more recently shed a little light?

I was thinking about a couple of things. The other said that Claire kept picking their people off. Rousseau did the same thing to her team. They're both out setting traps--assuming they are for others. Both said that their baby was "stolen" from them. Wondering if Ben's story (anyone remember this more) is true--that he "found" Alex in the jungle? Could be similar to Kate and Aaron.

One more thought. The others are saying that Sayid and Claire are "infected". But wasn't that the word that Danielle used for her teammates? That they all got "sick" and she had to kill them? (Even her husband/lover?) Seems to me like they are giving us clues that she was the sick one.
But also clues about Claire.

Danielle was left alone in the jungle for years. MIB/Smokey didn't approach her at all. And the others seem to assume that without the pill, people like this are just "lost" (haha). It seems like MIB is just doing whatever he feels will help him to kill off his enemies. Claire seems just as paranoid and full of blame as Danielle. Looks like MIB is just using that in Claire to his advantage at the moment.

Thoughts?

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One of the things that has bothered me since the end of last season is why every other episode contained flash forwards, but in the episode Ji Yeon, most people assume that Sun was Flashing Forward, but Jin was Flashing Back?

I do understand that Jin said that he had only been married for 2 months. And, that he attended the birth of someone else's baby. However, people do marry other people--if their spouses are dead or they believe them to be dead.

So, I am wondering if Jin has also flashed forward, but in some alternate reality, he believes Sun to be dead (on the island or otherwise) and has married someone else? Has he gone back to work for his old boss, grieved his wife's death, and finally remarried? Everyone assumes that he was referring to Sun when he said he was married.

I believe they may have both been flashing forward. Thoughts anyone?




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Episode 4x05 / Penny had the number for their boat??
« on: February 29, 2008, 12:20:04 AM »
So how do we think Penny got the number? They said she kept calling. And, they knew it was her.

If the boat wasn't "inside" the field of the island, could't Penny's boat have just traced the location of this boat?

Why would she "keep" calling, even if they hadn't found anything? He seems to imply that she called alot!!


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Episode 4x05 / Frank's Role?
« on: February 29, 2008, 12:12:00 AM »
Why is Frank "helping" Desmond and Sayid? If the people on Not Penny's Boat can't be trusted (or at the least he doesn't respect their authority), why did he bring them back there in the first place?

Do you think he just took the job for money? Because he was supposed to be flying their plane, did he have a secret agenda to help them if they were found?

Has he just recently decided to help them the more that he learns about his co-workers?

What do you think?



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Episode 4x05 / They Can Change the Future...
« on: February 28, 2008, 11:30:28 PM »
When Desmond was in Dan's office in the past, Dan asked him if his future self remembered Des coming to his office.  Desmond said that he didn't know, that maybe he had forgotten. He also asked if they were changing the future just by having that conversation.

I took Dan at his word, that they weren't changing the future, but then the last 3 minutes rolled around.

Dan looked BACK in his journal (it looked like he had even flipped backwards from the page that he had earlier used for Desmond's settings), and found where he had written that Des could be his constant if anything were to go wrong.

Did Future Dan sending Desmond to see Past Dan create new memories and events for future Dan?

(Okay...someone send in the flux capaciter....) ;D

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Episode 4x02 / Maybe Ben wants to die?
« on: February 08, 2008, 07:24:17 PM »
Ben has been through alot on the island to become it's leader.  He feels like the place is rightfully his, and that he is "special" because he can hear from Jacob, and hasn't managed to end up in the ditch. 

However, as a hostage, multiple times, he has barely managed to survive. From the first time Danielle finds him in the jungle, to his capture and torture in the Swan, to being under Jack's knife, to his current predicament as a hostage on a leash (I'll walk him...sounds like my dogs!!), Ben has been in some difficult places before.  He has always managed to come out on top, and Sawyer even seems to think that he, even now, has some plan to do them all in and survive yet again. 

Here is my question: What else does Ben now have to live for? Alex has "left" him so to speak.  He no longer has a following among his people--they follow Locke.  Jacob even is speaking to others and asking for help.  Ben seems to be antagonizing Sawyer, whom he knows killed Locke's dad, and even Karl, who he knows has a gun and a motive.  Even the new young woman who he had just shot.  Rather than answering Locke's question, he makes her vulnerable to the losties, and lets them know that they are after him as well. Why? Everything he says is to incite anger or to put himself in more harms way.  Does he now want to die? Does he feel like that will hurt the Losties more (because he has some secret knowledge that will save them?)

Or even more...does he know that if he dies, that he will be free? Have more power? Be closer to Jacob? (Christian was in the shack with Jacob, etc.)

Let me know what you think!! 
  :o

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Episode 3x13 / The Others are Pharisees
« on: March 25, 2007, 02:26:29 PM »
Sorry all for being way behind on catching up with my LOST! (been traveling!)  :-\

I wanted to start a discussion about what Locke said to Ben, when he called them Pharisees.  In the Bible, the Pharisees were a sect of Judaism that were very legalistic.  They took the laws that were laid down in scripture, and added to them, just to provide "safeguards" so that they would not actually break the laws.  For example, Jewish law stated that Jews were to rest on the Sabbath, so the Pharisees took this one step further and regulated what "resting" was, legislating how far you could walk on the Sabbath and for what purposes.  They also regulated what activities constituted "resting" and which ones didn't. 

However, there is another connotation of Pharisee that I think Locke may be referring to.  When Jesus came and began his ministry, he wanted to show people that God did not intend for humanity's relationship with God to be based on a set of laws.  Instead, he demonstrated that God wanted to have a relationship with each of us, and that His personal Spirit could guide us in holiness.  The Law was given for protection, and as a standard of holiness, but the Pharisees had utterly corrupted this.

So, when Locke calls the Others "Pharisees" towards the island, I wondered if this was what he was referring to?  Locke wants to have a relationship with the island, and somehow experiencing it just as it is in it's purest form.  I believe that he feels that the island itself will give them everything that they need for life.  Hence, his comment about electricity, and his thankfulness for the chicken. 

One last thought though....if this was Locke's thought.  Was it destroyed when he saw his father brought to the Others by the island? (The one thing he felt the island had "saved" him from???)

Discuss!

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Episode 3x11 / Why didn't Patchy kill Sayid to start with?
« on: March 08, 2007, 12:21:05 AM »
This sounded like a new topic of conversation!  ::)

If Patchy is an other (hostile) and not Dharma, as he claimed at the end that this was the only part of his story that wasn't true, then he knew that Sayid wasn't a hostile.  Why didn't he kill him to start with?  Why play the game? 

Also, do you think he was playing games with Locke? Did he want him to figure out how to blow up the station, to indicate to his other (hostile) friends that our losties had crossed the line and were now invading his camp? (Basically like a big bright and loud 911 alarm to the others.)

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Episode 3x10 / Got more boats...maybe more cars??
« on: March 01, 2007, 11:49:09 AM »
One of the statements that was made in the show was that Michael and Walt could not have been given the only boat that the Others had.  Even when we see them taking Jack off of the island in the last episode, we see at least two more boats--one paddle powered, and the larger cruiser.  (BTW, when Vincent first ran out with that arm...I was a little worried it might be Michael!!)

So, here's my question. (I'm so happy we actually get to discuss this again!!!) What would have been the need for a road, if there weren't more vehicles?  Or ARE more vehicles.  And what's a road used for in these parts anyway? 

We know now that the Swan base was not central, but a testing station.  Some of its inhabitants thought they were quarantined and could not go out very far...and they wouldn't have needed to go anywhere that lasted longer than 108 minutes. Do you think the road was going to be for food drops? (Er...beer drops?)   

Also, this road makes me think a little bit of the wizard of Oz's yellow brick road.  Equally strange things are happening along the way and the road will lead to HIM???  ::)

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Episode 3x07 / Rachel in Miami "All Alone"--but now she's pregnant??
« on: February 09, 2007, 06:59:49 PM »
One of the things that Juliet says to her sister  at the beginning of the epi is, I don't like you living here all alone.  And she responds that she likes the beach.  How is she living all alone, and yet prengant?? 

Some people seem to be theorizing the mysterious Jacob as Rachel's baby's dad.  We also see Ethan leaving her room (or at least walking down the hallway nearby).  Anyone have any thoughts on this??



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Episode 3x06 / Why have guns and use tasers?
« on: November 09, 2006, 09:36:47 PM »
Anyone wonder why the Others have a whole closet full of guns, and yet they usually use stunners and tasers? 

The only time we have seen them with guns was when Michael came to their fake other camp.  (I believe...correct me if i am wrong...)

Could this be why they were so angry at Coleen getting shot?  They don't believe in using guns on people?

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Episode 3x06 / What they are building
« on: November 09, 2006, 09:11:53 PM »
Kate tells Jack it is "something big" yet they are accomplishing it with the work of two castaways, and one in a flowy top?? Hmmm...

I'll refrain from expounding on my pet theory that they have vehicles and construction equipment of some kind...

But are there any engineers out there who could tell us what they might be preparing the ground for?  For example, are they trying to put in a foundation? Or trying to level the ground? How big does the space have to be for a building/road/tower, etc?  Any help or at least new discussion appreciated!!

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Episode 3x02 / Are the Others...American??
« on: October 12, 2006, 02:12:05 AM »
I'm wondering, now that we know that they have outside contact.  Were the Others' parents originally American?  None of them have telltale Brit or Aussie accents.  What do you guys think?

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Episode 3x02 / Jin knows English???
« on: October 12, 2006, 01:23:42 AM »
This comes into play in a couple of ways.  He told Sun that he knew she betrayed him.  But because of their centric episode, we know that this meant in more than one way.  She betrayed him in her affair, but also in agreeing to Sayid's plot.  How long has Jin been able to understand English?  What else does he know? We were made to believe that he wasn't able to kill Sun's lover, but is he really a good man? (Are any of the Losties??)


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Episode 3x02 / What Jack is needed for...
« on: October 12, 2006, 01:08:40 AM »
So Jack is special.  They have already told him that they want him to cooperate.  And they also know that their "reward" of home is not really a reward.  So what do they want from Jack?  Help with their fertility issues?  A cure for whatever they immunize against? Is it even something medical at all???

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