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Episode 5x16 / Paradise Lost
« on: May 15, 2009, 03:09:35 PM »
Paradise Lost / Biblical

Adam & Eve : God creates Man / Adam and gives him free will, knowing that Man will fall. He succeeds in bringing about the fall of Adam and Eve but is punished for the act. Adam eats the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge because he cannot bear losing Eve. ----> Sounds alot like Jack and his "decisions" and his despair for potentially losing Kate.

Satan : Before his rebellion, he was known as Lucifer and was second only to God. His envy of the Son creates Sin, and in an incestuous relationship with his daughter, he produces the offspring, Death. His rebellion is easily crushed by the Son, and he is cast into Hell. His goal is to corrupt God's new creations, Man and Earth. He succeeds in bringing about the fall of Adam and Eve but is punished for the act. He can shift his shape and tempts Eve in the form of a serpent. He appears noble to Man but not in comparison to God. ----> hmmm. Ben and his daughter, Ben and his complex of being second, and / or black shirt and his conflict with Jacob, and mention of the shape shifter ie faux locke....

God : The omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent creator of the universe. He is depicted as pure light by Milton and rules from an unmovable throne at the highest point in Heaven. God is the epitome of reason and intellect, qualities that often make him seem aloof and stern in the poem. His more merciful side is shown through his Son who is of course one of the Trinitarian aspects of God though not the same as God. God creates Man (Adam) and gives him free will, knowing that Man will fall. He also provides his Son, who becomes a man and suffers death, as the means to salvation for Man so that ultimately goodness will completely defeat evil. ----> again, more similarities, free will, man failing, the conversation between jacob and black shirt / esau, and... "pure light" is what we saw when the fail safe was turned, when the bomb detonated, when they time jumped.

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Episode 5x16 / he "watched them die"
« on: May 14, 2009, 09:39:53 PM »
last episode, Richard told Sun that he knew the Losties back in 1977 because he "watched them die".

but... he didn't? he wasn't there when the nuke was detonated, if thats what he was referring to.
or if he was referring to a past that was changed, what was he speaking of?
ben gassing them with the other dharma people, but that timeline changed?

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Episode 5x16 / knife / fire
« on: May 14, 2009, 09:37:31 PM »
my girlfriend pointed out something interesting....

the cabin scene, the clue to where jacob is was stuck to the wall with a knife (locke?).
then Ilana and gang burned down the cabin with an intense fire that even Frank questioned the need for.

later, ben stabbed jacob with a knife (despite all the guns on the island) and pushed him into the fire.

symbolism? parallels? theories? coincidence?

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Episode 5x14 / DES & PENNY = Adam & Eve (Cave)
« on: April 30, 2009, 09:39:35 PM »
To me the most obvious thing of the night was that the Adam and Eve skeletons in the cave are indeed Des and Penny.
This immediately came to mind when Desmond (once again) told Penny that he would never leave her side.

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Episode 4x11 / died giving birth...
« on: May 23, 2008, 08:00:01 PM »
both Lockes mom AND Bens mother. hmmmm.

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Episode 4x12 / Misc?'s & Does Jin know more than we think?
« on: May 23, 2008, 05:18:05 PM »
*** JIN ***
He very specifically promises to Sun, twice, "I will get you and our baby off this island"...
Seems like most people would simply say "I will get US off this island"...
So, does he already know that he will need to stay behind for whatever reason?


*** MISC ?'s ***
other random questions / thoughts not neccessarily related to this specific episode but i didn't know where else to put them:

  - what was the deal with the exploding pacemaker they put in sawyer than turned out to be fake. seems like just episode filler, other than showing us that Ben likes to manipilate people which there are already more than enough examples of...

  - same thing with the spiders that bite and make you appear to be dead in the nikki / paulo episode. was this just filler and a way to kill them off or will they come into play again? and didn't the producers say something to the effect that nikki and paulo might be more important than we realize (or am i making that up)? perhaps they are adam and eve...

 - the Med Kit that Frank bring to Keamy has the image of a plane on it, so we know it's not from the freightor or the helicopter, rather that he brought it from the beach or wherever. are we supposed to believe that after all this time there are still untouched and unused first aid kits from flight 815?  would think that jack and sawyer would have already used / plundered them all and i can't imagine there being to many aboard one single plane...

  - what the **** is the deal with the statue of a foot with four toes, any theories. its lack of toes seems to suggest that it is not human, but that doesn't seem to fit with any story lines that the show is dealing with... thoughts? theories?

  - the woman who jumped off the freightor in chains, was she trying to get to the bottom of the ocean for some reason (like a station) or was she merely trying to kill herself. if the island doesn't let you kill yourself before it is time, is she just alive and shackled and hanging out underwater right now? or does the island keeping you alive only apply to the people who came via 815 and if so what makes them any different? mere physical contact with the island? hmmm.


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Episode 4x05 / LEAP
« on: March 18, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »
did anyone else find it interesting that the episode featuring LEAPING through time aired the day before LEAP DAY? hmmm.

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