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Episode 6x16 / Emmy's
« on: May 26, 2010, 02:57:47 PM »
If you were in charge of Emmy submissions for Lost season 6, which episodes / actors would you nominate?

I'd submit The End for Best Drama, Foxy for The End for Best Actor, and Ben for Dr. Linus for Best Supporting Actor.  Didn't feel that any of the female performances this year were that strong (but the scripting didn't really call for it either) so I'd probably skip them or I'm just too lazy to think of the best one.

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I figured somehow last nights ep. would explain why so many shots of people looking at themselves and one another through mirrors in the Alt. timeline.  But as far as I can tell, it really didn't?  Or did I somehow miss this?

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Episode 6x16 / Jack didn't bless Hurley's water?
« on: May 24, 2010, 04:27:25 PM »
After Mother did it when she bequeathed Jacob, and Jacob did the same when he bequeathed Jack, now it seems all they had to do was dip some water out of a puddle and hand it to their replacement who then had to drink it.  No prayer needed?

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Episode 6x16 / Juliet's coffee line...
« on: May 24, 2010, 06:46:41 AM »
Another silly question - after the Jughead incident, was Juliet's coffe line that echoed the scene tonight supposed to indicate that her conciousness was already in the afterlife or whatever the Alt was?

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Episode 6x16 / Why was the island underwater in the Alt.?
« on: May 24, 2010, 06:30:56 AM »
This is the one thing (just finished watching) so far that I can't explain to myself.

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Episode 6x15 / Jack's ascension?
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:16:09 PM »
Did anyone else think that after Jack drank the water from Jacob, the look on his face was rather like Neo after they downloaded all the kung-fu knowledge into his head?  I just got the feeling that Jack suddenly got ALL the answers to everything, and his knowledge is now simply on another level than everyone else. 

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Episode 6x15 / 20 questions with Jacob....
« on: May 19, 2010, 03:53:49 AM »
After 3+ years since the 815 crashed, and all that time wondering what the hell the island is, our heroes finally get a chance to ask Jacob wassup, and the best they can do is:

Hurkey:  Why you brought us to the island?
Sawyer:  What mistake?
Sawyer:   Why do I gotta be punished for your mistake?  What makes you think you can mess with my life?
Kate:  Why did you cross my name off of your wall?
Jack:  What is the job?
Jack:  You want us to kill him?
Jack:  Is that even possible?
Hurley:  So, how you gonna pick?
Kate:  And if none of us chooses it?

Man, sometimes I wonder if the writers really are capable of putting themselves into the shoes of these characters.  How about:

What is the island?
What is the monster?
What on earth are you?
Why is the island hidden?
What is this light your babbling about, etc?

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Episode 6x15 / What happened to Claire Bear?
« on: May 19, 2010, 03:43:01 AM »
Last we saw, everyone left her on the dock to get on the sub.  Then Flocke just left her there too.  I hope she's appearing in the finale and not just forgotten about.

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Consider:

Jacob & Mib:  One has dark hair, the other is blond
Cuse & Lindelof: One has dark hair, the other is blond

Jacob & MiB: Have immense power over what happens on the island and have been pulling all the strings the entire time
Cuse & Lindelof: Have immense power over what happens on the island and have been pulling all the strings the entire time

Jacob & MiB:  Both know what the island is, but aren't saying
Cuse & Lindelof:  Both know what the island is, but aren't saying

Jacob & MiB:  Manipulate people into enduring experiences they might not otherwise want
Cuse & Lindelof:  Manipulate people into enduring experiences they might not otherwise want

Jacob & MiB: Both like playing games with each other
Cuse & Lindelof: Both like playing games with us

Jacob & MiB: Both are trapped, one by their duty, the other by the island
Cuse & Lindelof:  Both are trapped, both by their duty, and by their own writing

Jacob & MiB:  Use loopholes to get around the rules of the island
Cuse & Lindelof:  Use loopholes to get around the rules of writing

Are all these things coincidence?  I think NOT!  ;D

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Episode 6x14 / What happened to my earlier thread?
« on: May 16, 2010, 02:43:55 AM »
I can still go to it, but it doesn't appear in the list of threads for this episode any more.  Why not?

http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php/topic,10958.0.html

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Episode 6x14 / What happened to my earlier thread?
« on: May 16, 2010, 02:30:36 AM »
I can still go to it, but it doesn't appear in the list of threads for this episode any more.  Why not?

http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php/topic,10958.0.html

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General Spoiler Talk / What they died for synopsis is out there...
« on: May 14, 2010, 12:50:57 PM »
What They Died for was screened last night at UCLA's Royce Hall, and I've seen at least one synopsis.  It sounds excellent, and ties in with last week in a way that makes me feel like last week wasn't a complete waste. 

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Episode 6x14 / Anyone else feel let down???
« on: May 12, 2010, 03:49:24 AM »
I gotta say, this episode was not very good, and since it was (apparently) such a key episode in the series, that gave us (non)-answers to a lot of questions, and probably the only answer's we're getting, man... its not a happy time to be a Lost fan, IMHO...

a) the script and the acting felt awkward, especially the beginning before Jacob and MiB grew up - I can't blame them in a way, how to tell this sort of epic nature of the whole show in 42 minutes, but maybe it was just a bad idea to tell this part of the story this way.

b) Jacob's predecessor is just some semi-insane woman who steals babies, murders their mother and refuses to offer any good explanation for anything.  Honestly, we really know little more than we did before about the nature of the island and it seems that any hope of this being answered is gone.

c) the heart of the island is just a pool of light, and we weren't really told in any meaningful way what it is
  - life, death, or whatever, that's so bloody ambiguous it would have been better not to have been told about it.  Its also just plain silly, IMHO.

d) Jacob killed his brother, or condemned him to a fate worse than death (I'm not even sure) simply because he wanted to leave the island.  No reason given by Jacob's "mother" as to why she won't let him leave.  I think its a huge mistake not to detail this.

e) The frozen donkey wheel is just some sort of device no-name MiB wants to couple to the light source to allow him to leave the island.  Why the light or the donkey wheel would let him do that or work in that way, totally unexplained.  How he figured that out or why he thought that?  Totally unexplained.

f) Jacob's "mom" destroys the village of the pre-Others, and destroys MiB's tunnel to the light source.  Meaning the frozen donkey wheel was buried before it was completed.  So how did it get completed?

g) If the "pre-Others" are so evil and bad or what not, and the island needs protecting from them, why did "mom" wait 30+ years to kill them?

h) The "rules" between Jacob and MiB are simply that they can't kill each other, for no other reason that "mom" "made it that way".  Why did mom make it that way, and don't we deserve a better explanation than that?  Yeesh.

i)  Did MiB really become the smoke monster, or did (as someone posted in another thread) Jacob release the bad energy under the island by throwing MiB's unconcious body in there?  Therefore smokey is not really Jacob's brother?

j) The "flashbacks" to Jack, Kate and Locke in the cave felt like Darlton manifesting a need to rub it in to the audience that "hey, we knew what we were doing all along, see?"  What, the audience wouldn't have gotten the significance of Jacob burying "mom" and MiB in the cave with the black and white stones unless they shoved a flashback in our face?  Worse, the whole idea that this proved anything in terms of who knew what, when, feels like a stretch.  I know Darlton have admitted that specifics were not known that early, and that while they had some ideas, it didn't really get detailed out until after season 1, but even beyond that, they could have had anyone be buried in those caves and said they knew it all along, didn't have to be "mom" and MiB.   

k) there were interviews with Darlton after the Candidate how they were bragging like "ok, after tonight no one should have any doubt that MiB is freaking evil".  After "Across The Sea", they did a 180 - they make Jacob seem like little more than a unloved, naive jerk who kills his brother in a rage, and MiB comes off as almost sympathetic in this episode.  MiB is pissed off at "mom" for all the right reasons, wants to explore the world and learn more than just what he can see on the Island and what "mom" tells him.  Meanwhile, Jacob is too blinded by his mother and his lack of worldly experience to see things as they really are.  Which makes little sense because he's intelligent enough to feel "mom" loves him less than his brother.  Its Jacob who ought to have animosity towards "mom" a lot more than MiB.   

Anyhow, sorry for the long rant.  I am a huge Lost fan, just very unhappy with this episode.  We'll see how it goes, but I fear this is sadly the episode where Lost might have jumped the Dharma Shark for real.    Here's hoping I'm wrong and that the last two episodes are better.  I'll still be watching, we've come too far now not to.       

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Episode 6x13 / MiB: What's his plan now?
« on: May 05, 2010, 03:52:04 AM »
Now that the sub is blown up, and the plane seems useless (or at least pilotless, with the demise of Lapidus), how is Smokey planning to leave the island?  Does his escape actually require a vehicle (did it ever?), or was it always just a play to kill all the Candidates so that he could leave through some other means?

Another thought - will his use of normal time line Locke's body somehow allow him to absorb sideways Locke's piloting knowledge?

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Episode 6x13 / How the death's were handled...
« on: May 05, 2010, 03:19:18 AM »
Man, I'm bummed - I thought Sayid deserved to go out a little better than that - not just here one minute, the next running down the passageway and then BOOM.  How about some slow motion and emotive music?

And Jin and Sun - somehow their scenes together this week and last didn't do it for me.  Maybe Jin speaking english changes the chemistry between them but the reunion last week was done poorly (too short before Zoe pulled the guns) and them talking in the cage was good but the death scene was a little corny again - like Jin wants to stay with Sun ok but neither of them is thinking of their about-to-be-orphaned daughter?

Other than that this episode was great, I just wish that they'd done those bits a little bit better.

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