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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 5 => Episode 5x16 => Topic started by: rhythm on May 14, 2009, 02:12:17 PM

Title: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: rhythm on May 14, 2009, 02:12:17 PM
Was anyone as pleased as I that Phil got it?  I was hoping that something painful would happen to Radzinsky.  Since we first "met" Radzinsky he became increasingly the most obnoxious character on TV.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Survivor815 on May 14, 2009, 02:14:42 PM
Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: zeekloveslost on May 14, 2009, 02:15:17 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: rhythm on May 14, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
I know he had to live, that doesn't mean his quality of life had to remain the same.   Chang lost an arm...why can't Radzinsky lose something too?
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: lostlady on May 14, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
He will lose his brains when he shoots himself. Although I am wondering now (after meeting him) if Kelvin didn't shoot him because he is so annoying.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: hatch4815162342 on May 14, 2009, 05:17:34 PM
first it was keamy now that he is dead they need an antagonist(why would you be a dumbass and get into a almost all metal jeep when 10 ton cranes are being pulled into a hole?)
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: bfth on May 14, 2009, 05:27:38 PM
Was so glad when Phil finally got his "just reward".  Found it interesting that he died almost the same way Frogert did -- with a "stake to the heart" (Ok, so it was a metal rod and and Frogert it was a flaming arrow, but you get my meaning).
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on May 14, 2009, 06:31:53 PM
I'm glad Phil got it, definitely. But it was kind of anticlimactic.  :-\ They set up nice tension with him, made sure that we hated him, and then... fate killed him. Not Sawyer, not Juliet... fate.

And even though the guy in the hatch that made the map was named Radzinsky, there's no way to be sure that it's the same Radzinsky we know. I'm not saying it's a coincidence, just that perhaps another character we know has to man the hatch and asks to be called Radzinsky. Plus, all that Latin... I'm not saying I'm right, not by a long shot, but it's a possibility, however remote.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: loopist on May 14, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Absolutely.  The writers did a great job with Radzinsky and Phil...I really wanted to reach into the TV and slap them both...good to see Phil get it!
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Writers_Strike on May 15, 2009, 08:36:18 AM
Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: CameronLee on May 15, 2009, 08:47:45 AM
Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?

Since when was Unlocke (or flocke) an original character?
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: rhythm on May 15, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?

Since when was Unlocke (or flocke) an original character?
Right, Sun would be the only original character.  We met Richard in season 3 and to be honest if he is who we all think he is, then we sorta met AJ in season 4.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Bramiam on May 15, 2009, 09:24:04 AM
He will lose his brains when he shoots himself. Although I am wondering now (after meeting him) if Kelvin didn't shoot him because he is so annoying.
I can't see how anyone could have stayed locked up with him for more than a few days. Since we'll never see Radzinksy again, I'll take your version of how he died.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Writers_Strike on May 15, 2009, 09:37:01 AM
Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?

Since when was Unlocke (or flocke) an original character?
I ment the actor.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: tonysee200x on May 15, 2009, 09:45:35 AM
I did hate Phil, but I do laugh every time I think of his first appearance / line...

PHIL: I'm gone ten minutes, and you're having a hootenanny?

Anyone who can pull off the word hootenanny can't be all bad.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: GUTZandRAGE on May 15, 2009, 10:09:21 AM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

Yeppers. But he didn't need to keep all his limbs.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: lostlady on May 15, 2009, 02:20:35 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

Yeppers. But he didn't need to keep all his limbs.

Funny!  ;D  and true!! he should have suffered more.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: rhythm on May 16, 2009, 12:16:07 PM
My sentiments exactly!  ;D
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Madam P on May 16, 2009, 05:20:01 PM
Was anyone as pleased as I that Phil got it? 

I totally stood up and cheered.  Yes, it's very very wrong, but I admit it.  I was doing the "YESSSSS!" fist pump.   :)
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Zinzi on May 16, 2009, 07:24:39 PM
I did hate Phil, but I do laugh every time I think of his first appearance / line...

PHIL: I'm gone ten minutes, and you're having a hootenanny?

Anyone who can pull off the word hootenanny can't be all bad.

I loved that line, voted it best of the night for that episode!!  ;D  I like having characters to hate or laugh at like Phil, Radzinsky, Frogurt & Arzt!  I cheered & laughed about Phil nearly as much as when Arzt went BOOM SPLAT!  ;D
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: jamesl on May 16, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?


ok,
how can they possibly finish building the station now ?
with all that electromagnetism sucking all the tools and cranes down there's no way to finish construction, install computers and electronic equipment
no computer is going to work with that much electromagnetism around ?

what are they going to do, mix concrete with rubber shovels, carry it with plastic wheelbarrows, fill up the hole to try and stop the sucking and then build everything over that extremely dangerous spot ?

that makes no sense, at least not to me it doesn't

I don't see how the station can be built now or how any video can be made
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Hurley rocks dudes on May 17, 2009, 12:07:57 AM
I'm glad Phil got it, definitely. But it was kind of anticlimactic.  :-\ They set up nice tension with him, made sure that we hated him, and then... fate killed him. Not Sawyer, not Juliet... fate.

i agree with this... i was waiting for sawyer to shoot him then he just gets impaled... i had been waiting to clap for phil dying, then i was just bleh...
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Staggerlee on May 17, 2009, 12:15:46 AM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

This could mean at least there could be a smidgen of a chance that......"kelvin"*is.....ALIVE....or at least we'll get to see him again!!!


*promised on another thread to never ever never mention him again....shhhh don't tell on me....
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Wishbone on May 18, 2009, 03:03:05 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

unless they have changed things from 'whatever happened, happened' I thought Radzinsky was dead - I need to re-watch
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: joshzam on May 18, 2009, 04:51:10 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?


ok,
how can they possibly finish building the station now ?
with all that electromagnetism sucking all the tools and cranes down there's no way to finish construction, install computers and electronic equipment
no computer is going to work with that much electromagnetism around ?

what are they going to do, mix concrete with rubber shovels, carry it with plastic wheelbarrows, fill up the hole to try and stop the sucking and then build everything over that extremely dangerous spot ?

that makes no sense, at least not to me it doesn't

I don't see how the station can be built now or how any video can be made

You're forgetting one minor detail... the detonation of a hydrogen bomb. Sure, tools were flying before, but we have no idea what will happen once that fade-to-white dissolves.
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: jamesl on May 18, 2009, 05:14:48 PM
Radzinsky had to remain alive... he ends up working in the Swan statiomn (hatch) with Kelvin.

Oh yeah!! I hate both characters! Was hoping something would happen to Radzinsky too, but then my husband reminded me that he can't be dead because he's the one that made the blast door map.

That's my point exactly, they caused the incident. So nothing in the past has changed and whatever happened happened. How great would it be if they all died and its just Sun, Richard and Flocke as the only original characters left?


ok,
how can they possibly finish building the station now ?
with all that electromagnetism sucking all the tools and cranes down there's no way to finish construction, install computers and electronic equipment
no computer is going to work with that much electromagnetism around ?

what are they going to do, mix concrete with rubber shovels, carry it with plastic wheelbarrows, fill up the hole to try and stop the sucking and then build everything over that extremely dangerous spot ?

that makes no sense, at least not to me it doesn't

I don't see how the station can be built now or how any video can be made

You're forgetting one minor detail... the detonation of a hydrogen bomb. Sure, tools were flying before, but we have no idea what will happen once that fade-to-white dissolves.

well, yes, obviously, the hydrogen bomb
but if a nuclear bomb went off there would be so much radiation and such a big hole making the ground unstable and the whole area too dangerous to work in

the point of my post was "whatever happened, happened" can no longer be true
people were saying Radzinsky has to be alive because he has to work at the Swan
I say he doesn't have to be alive because there is no Swan,
there can't be;
too much eletromagnetism, too much radiation, too big of a hole making the ground unstable

I don't know what the writers are going to do, but "whatever happened, happened" is no longer applicable
Title: Re: Radzinsky & Phil
Post by: Staggerlee on May 18, 2009, 05:27:21 PM
I don't know what the writers are going to do, but "whatever happened, happened" is no longer applicable

I'd stay away from statements like that.... ;)

In the land of make believe "whatever happened, happened" is still applicable. As some have posited here the two "events" when dear Juliette went  Bang a Gong canceled each other out, and too they may have had some access to a back hoe or two should there be a crater...or the electro whatchmathang absorbed the bomb blast, or, or, or...Radiation shmadiaton, there's 5 legged deer around Chernobyl....

but I like the direction you're taking, it would lead to somewhere unexpected, which by all means is more interesting than by the book Sci Fi schmaltz...