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Title: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: sledgeweb on May 06, 2009, 05:11:13 PM
After Episode 5x15, "Follow the Leader" airs, be sure to rank the episode using the scale above, and then let us know what you thought about the episode below.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: razzle-dazzle on May 06, 2009, 11:16:41 PM
Hurley's worse fear about not passing the test, Jack finally becoming a man of faith, Kate screwing up Juliet and Sawyer's escape to normalcy, Ben's snappy lines and looks, Locke having a Jacklike plan to lead the other's around the island... Priceless. A 10!
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on May 07, 2009, 02:07:16 AM
Usually I wait more than 2 minutes before rating an episode, but I feel in my gut it's a 10 and I don't think a second viewing will bring it down. So good to see Sayid, and he hasn't gone crazy in the jungle. Kate hopping on the sub was awesome, I thought probably the exact expletives that Juliet and Sawyer thought...and Kate had no idea she was crashing the party. Swimming to the tunnels? The bomb is in a temple-esque place? Hurley of course as classic Hurley... and oh my goodness there was so much Richard I nearly died. Really my 10 rating comes down to one thing.

Dripping. Wet. Richard.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Sunflower on May 07, 2009, 03:37:28 AM
OMG!  Compared to last week this was 20!  I too am going off of first impressions and I absolutely loved it!  The only thing I miss is Rose and Bernard, what the hell happened to them?  Adam & Eve in the caves?  And I miss Des and Penny, but really just Des ;)  And how can they ignore Claire all season, makes no sense to me.

Richard, dripping wet or dry is always good Mrs. Alpert ;)

The storyline included many characters like Miles and his father (awesome), Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin, Sun, Locke (amazing!! and I'm not usually a huge Locke fan), Ben, Sawyer, Juliet, Richard, Eloise, Widmore and the D.I's.  The storyline also included so many popular topics, the bomb, time travel, the temple and its tunnels, JACOB and much more!  A packed episode!  I was so scared that Radzinky and Co. were going to find Hurley and start beating him, that would be SO WRONG and I am so glad that it did not happen.

Most of you know that I have always been a Juliet fan right?  So I am going to make a shirt this week that says Team Juliet for the finale :D I'm sick of Kate.  I understand why she doesn't want anything to change; Jack's misery was probably the best years of her life. She annoys me and is not using any of her fugitive or tracking skills anymore so I don't see the point.  That being said, this has been a pattern with me this season and usually when I am feeling ready for them to kill off Kate they go and redeem her somehow.  So I expect she will have Jack's back next week or she should die LOLOL  (Juggy is going to kill me!). 

Did I mention I gave it a ten?



Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on May 07, 2009, 09:02:06 AM
I loved this episode for no other reason than the story moved along so much. Almost everyone was in the episode!!! John was freaking everyone out and Jack was acting like John. Gotta agree with ya Joy...Kate is on my last never. When she got on the sub I said to my husband, "can't she just go away!"(sorry Juggy) Great episode finally!!!! I give it a 10.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Asmodean on May 07, 2009, 10:47:56 AM
10 too.  Loved it all!
No comments.  The less I say, the better chance of not getting my name misspelled on the review page. :P
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Souldrinker on May 07, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
Lost in perfection :)
Almost all important characters in it , awesome Locke-Richard-Ben scenes and it was a great build up to the finale storywise. Clearly a 10!
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: lostfromthestart on May 07, 2009, 03:31:35 PM
This was only the second episode I rated 10.  Nearly perfect!
> Loved Hurley's Quiz Bowl - so, you're 46?
> Chang to Miles - So, are you my son?  Yea, Dad.
> Miles to Jin & Hurley - So Dad wasn't a jerk, he acted that way to save us
> Jack has faith - at last!
> Locke - that man is me - the island told me the timing - gonna kill me some Jacob
> Ben  - great lines everywhere too many to list
> Sayid - saves the day again
> Sawyer & Juliet - true love - then Kate plunks down between them on the sub - truely coming between them, again!
> Great Sawyer lines - even under punishment
> Ellie - recognized Daniel and her own handwriting - immediately accepted Jack's truth (which Kate didn't like him giving) and
   spear-headed helping them complete the task

But.....
> Kate is really getting on my nerves
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 07, 2009, 03:59:44 PM
Great episode but once again sets up the time paradox of John Locke is he forming his own destiny by telling Richard everything he is to say to Locke, just like when he went back in the 1950's and said Jacob sent him sending Richard on the quest to be at Locke's birth, visiting him as a young child when Locke flunked by not picking the compass, and later sending some one to at his high school to go to the science school.

So Turns out only one watch all along sorry Aztro.

Love Lost From The Start's list including Kate getting on my nerves.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Hurley rocks dudes on May 07, 2009, 06:05:53 PM
ya, kate's really getting annoying.... kill her please!!!

loved everything else about this episode!
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Ladybug on May 07, 2009, 06:20:24 PM
i loved this episode!  gave it a 10.  classic comedic moments from hurley, questions answered, pure awesome-ness. 

but i agree with everyone else, kate is getting on my nerves.  i thought maybe juliet and sawyer would have a happily ever after moment, then BAM kate has to show up and ruin it.  but it wouldn't be lost without a few suprises.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: ButtercupSaiyan on May 07, 2009, 06:44:28 PM
It could have been better.  I preferred Some Like It Hoth over this one.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Cardacct on May 08, 2009, 05:34:40 AM
I gave it a 9.  Kate is JUST STARTING to get on everyone's nerves?  Hello?  She has been annoying this whole time!  That being said, don't kill her just to appease the crowd.  We are supposed to be annoyed by her right now.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the episode.  Locke is especially perplexing right now, and what can I say?  I enjoy the mystery.  Thank you, writers of Lost, for keeping the mystery alive in our relationship.

Ditto to LFTS's list for sure.  In typical Lost fashion, a so-so (for Lost) episode (5x14) was followed by an excellent teasing episode.  I can't believe this season is almost over.  It seems like we're just getting started.  I am really interested to see how this will all turn out.  All I know is that if there is a war, I want Richard on my team.  He's pretty intense.  He is like the puppet master.  Okay, I'm rambling.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 08, 2009, 07:48:27 AM
Not yet rated - but thought I wanted to put this down.  After the Jeremy Benthem episode I was not happy.

What redeemed the show going back on track was Locke.
He has a purpose, the island is speaking to him. In all the chatter about insignificant things the most important character is the island.  The island never spoke to Ben and not sure if it did to Richard.

He pulled one of the most amazing feats on the show an that was to have Richard tell him how to do what he needed. 

We also see that even if Locke is being used, as the little tete a tete with Dick (richard) and Ben, makes us wonder just what are these two up to?  Oh is it finally coming to fruition Jacob is a figurehead and is the "man behind the curtain" 

So follow the leader has them going to see the Wizard and I had to embrace i


Daniel may be a phoenix and rise again, who knows, not worried, he has his deliverable there, the notebook.  His mother will figure out what is need, no surprise she may have more power, if the culture is one of fertility she will endure what she need.

In the end - back to Locke- if Locke is sacraficed for the good of all there is to be for the island, I have come to make peace with this as he has a purpose and now lets start the beginning of what will be the end of our series next year!

Pleased with the episode  ;D  but a rating is being decided
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Asmodean on May 08, 2009, 09:54:31 AM
You're way overthinking it. ::)
I was ready to vote on the 1/2 hour commercial break.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: lostfromthestart on May 08, 2009, 12:02:25 PM
i loved this episode!  gave it a 10.  classic comedic moments from hurley, questions answered, pure awesome-ness. 

but i agree with everyone else, kate is getting on my nerves.  i thought maybe juliet and sawyer would have a happily ever after moment, then BAM kate has to show up and ruin it.  but it wouldn't be lost without a few suprises.

Just when Sawyer & Juliet are at peace and say I love you (Sawyer already planning on buying Microsoft and betting on known sports winners like the Cowboys in '78) Kate plops down right between the two of them.  I loved the symbolism that she "has come between them again" literally in the sub and in life.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 08, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
Yes, I do don't I then I peeve over the over thinking roflmao ;D
what a goof I am ;D
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Novashannon on May 08, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
I liked the episode, but not best, so I gave it a nine.  Loved the Hurley quiz!  Ben was his old sardonic self. Jack and Locke each had a purpose.  Kate got to be the voice of reason.  Daniel thought they MIGHT be able to change the future how?  And if he is wrong you just blow up an island!  WE live our lives and the good comes with the bad.  Blowing up the island does not mean that those who died won't die.  Or it could be that different people will die.  Everyone does, sooner or later.  I don't get why everyone seems to think Kate is selfish for not wanting to set off an h-bomb.
Nobody has yet had a good explanation for not likeing KAte.  (Note: she is not my favorite, either, but I think she gets a bad rap).  Sawyer does much worse, and eveyone loves him! (including me).
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Asmodean on May 08, 2009, 08:49:28 PM
Yes, I do don't I then I peeve over the over thinking roflmao ;D
what a goof I am ;D

LOL!
Are we there yet?  Are we there yet?  How 'bout now? ;D
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 08, 2009, 09:16:54 PM
Yes, I do don't I then I peeve over the over thinking roflmao ;D
what a goof I am ;D

LOL!
Are we there yet?  Are we there yet?  How 'bout now? ;D
In some ways I am glad the we have one more year!   :P

You have to give me credit Asmo I at least admit I am a bit out there and complain about stuff I do!
Wait we hijacked the thread, we will never make front page ::)

Send the check to Ben and Thlay ;D
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: jugdish on May 09, 2009, 09:46:46 AM
Great episode.

Why is everyone annoyed by Kate?? She does not want to let kids die and she does not want to explode a hydrogen bomb. Sounds pretty resonable to me. Have to remember that Kate came back to find Claire, not to change the past or save the island or rescue the DI or to lead the others. It appears to me that she is being pretty consistant and rational
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 09, 2009, 12:06:28 PM
Gee Juggy then you woulnd't want to know that I jumped up an cheered when I thought she had a bullet in her back and then I saw Sayid and went dang ;)

Good point she is there for yet another reason ;D 
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: laklost on May 09, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
Great episode.

Why is everyone annoyed by Kate?? She does not want to let kids die and she does not want to explode a hydrogen bomb. Sounds pretty resonable to me. Have to remember that Kate came back to find Claire, not to change the past or save the island or rescue the DI or to lead the others. It appears to me that she is being pretty consistant and rational

Jug, I am totally with you.  Doesn't anyone understand the concept of ambivalence?  The poor woman is the textbook case of it.  She has to test all her options first.  She's going to come around, and when she does, it's going to be big.

Would it be redundant if I give the episode a 10?  But I'm giving it that rating for one reason only.  They have confused me beyond recognition.  All my theories about this story have rested on John helping, not killing Jacob.  Unless to kill him is to help him.  I love the fact that the story is so dense, so unpredictable.  It is really quite simply one of my favorite stories I have ever encountered in my whole life.

Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: lostlady on May 09, 2009, 09:16:56 PM
gave it a 10. I think every episode is great as there are always some answers for us and of course many more questions.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Sunflower on May 09, 2009, 10:46:41 PM
Great episode.

Why is everyone annoyed by Kate?? She does not want to let kids die and she does not want to explode a hydrogen bomb. Sounds pretty resonable to me. Have to remember that Kate came back to find Claire, not to change the past or save the island or rescue the DI or to lead the others. It appears to me that she is being pretty consistant and rational

Jug, I am totally with you.  Doesn't anyone understand the concept of ambivalence?  The poor woman is the textbook case of it.  She has to test all her options first.  She's going to come around, and when she does, it's going to be big.

Would it be redundant if I give the episode a 10?  But I'm giving it that rating for one reason only.  They have confused me beyond recognition.  All my theories about this story have rested on John helping, not killing Jacob.  Unless to kill him is to help him.  I love the fact that the story is so dense, so unpredictable.  It is really quite simply one of my favorite stories I have ever encountered in my whole life.


This is why Lakie is so important to me!  She explained Kate perfectly and helped me deal with my dislike of her.  I hate ambivalence and therefore people who are ambivalent ;D

Seriously, without Lakie I would lack much of my insights that I have about Lost!
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: jugdish on May 09, 2009, 10:55:19 PM
Good stuff as always lakie. I am also very confused after this episode. Next week should be huge.

John could be killing the idea of idea Jacob. If he is really trying to kill him I am completely confused and John may not be a hero after all.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Sunflower on May 09, 2009, 10:59:45 PM
I agree with you Juggy, I think.  I see John as a Jesus like figure.  He is bringing the people to Jacob, they no longer have to rely on others (Ben, Richard, etc.)to intercede and relay messages to them.  They can have their own relationship with him.  Or killing the idea of Jacob in some other way ;)
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 09, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
If you move to the biblical terms John is more like Moses bringing the people to the promise land.  But since I have not cared for the biblical references
let us just say Locke is exposing something that has needed to be exposed.

Lakie - I am not sure I agree with her ambivalence.  But I am willing to give her a chance as I believe all the Losties have a role to play in how this well end  period.

Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Cardacct on May 12, 2009, 03:22:07 AM
Or Jacob is the man behind the curtain, and John is ... um... Dorothy?
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 12, 2009, 07:43:18 AM
Cardacct-

Imagine that Vincent runs up and pulls the curtain and reveals Jacob!  While John stands there with compass and knife in hand.

Perhaps that is why Richard was disappointed with him when he visited he first tested him.  When John choose the knife.  Maybe the comment to Ben about his being a problem stems from the fact that John has always had the knife with him.  (killing Jacob) either as a methaphor or he is going to kill him :o
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 12, 2009, 08:47:24 PM
ROFLMAO I now know why ASMO wanted me to rate this it came to a number of 23 voters.

I went with the pack and gave it a ten.  Based on my man LOCKE who has a feather sticking out of his mouth and the fact that Kate dodge a bullet, but it was heading for her back.
 ;D
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2009, 08:55:52 PM
And if you were playing along at home, Lil is our lucky winner tonight! ;D
Please see Jugdish for your prize.
Title: Re: Episode 5x15 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on May 12, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
And if you were playing along at home, Lil is our lucky winner tonight! ;D
Please see Jugdish for your prize.

Lime Jello I think was the prize!  ROFLMAO thank you