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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 5 => Topic started by: Harry Erickson on March 26, 2009, 02:22:57 AM

Title: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Harry Erickson on March 26, 2009, 02:22:57 AM
Remember in season 2 when "Ben" stole Henry Gales identity after his death, well what if all this time he had stolen bejamin linuses identity and has been living under that alias. For all we know ben can shape shift, if he can summon a black smoke then he could do that, maybe he had plastic surgery to look more like him, but id doubt ben will live and if he dies then michael emerson has been lying

Also ben says i really hated him meaning his dad may be dead before sayid shot him, maybe bens dad is dead and ben is dead and then michael emerson and someone else managed to look like them and take their place, cuz right now no one knows their dead or harmed
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Mrs Hume on March 26, 2009, 03:32:04 AM
hummm. I'm confused  ???. Can you elaborate ?
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Jas0n on March 26, 2009, 11:24:37 AM
Remember in season 2 when "Ben" stole Henry Gales identity after his death, well what if all this time he had stolen bejamin linuses identity and has been living under that alias. For all we know ben can shape shift, if he can summon a black smoke then he could do that, maybe he had plastic surgery to look more like him, but id doubt ben will live and if he dies then michael emerson has been lying

Also ben says i really hated him meaning his dad may be dead before sayid shot him, maybe bens dad is dead and ben is dead and then michael emerson and someone else managed to look like them and take their place, cuz right now no one knows their dead or harmed

what you talkin' bout willis?
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: CastawayCayley on March 26, 2009, 11:52:01 AM
I think what your saying is the character that is played by Michael Emerson showed up first as Henry Gale and then revealed his name to be Ben Linus. And you think maybe his original name really was Henry Gale, and only claimed to be Ben Linus? That the reason he doesnt look like a black man anymore is that he can shape shift? Um, I can't go along with this.

And for clarification he didnt say "I hated him" he said "I hate it here". So the whole thing with the dad you said isnt what you thought.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: grizn0 on March 26, 2009, 12:03:41 PM
I can't go along with the shape shifting either. But I can entertain the idea that Michael Emerson's character may be someone other than Ben Linus. Just not sure if I can say I like the idea entirely. We actually don't know for sure that young Ben died yet.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: opgelost on March 26, 2009, 12:10:12 PM
He didn't die.
Like Daniel said to Ellie that the bomb would not explode, because the island was still there 50 years in the future,
Ben didn't die, because he is there 30 years in the future.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: LostinLock on March 28, 2009, 08:16:22 PM
I truly don't believe Ben died, but I did think this myself that Ben is not Ben.  Another assumed name.  I don't buy the shape shifting.

But we shall see about the identity and the reason I say this is that little boy did have a heart.    We are missing what caused him to be prideful and greedy
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: jugdish on March 28, 2009, 09:01:16 PM
We saw Micheal Emerson playing Ben as a teenager. So he could not of died and he is not someone else. We see him grow up.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: BadRobot64 on March 28, 2009, 10:30:44 PM
i too have had a lose nonbacked up theory that ben as we know him is not ben linus... hte same way he was henry gale, and then Dr Moriarty... just liek john locke wasnt jeremy bentham... and how my far fetched addadon is realy walt... far fetched theories. but the theme of peoples names not being their real one... even can go back to sawyer... james for... jim lafleur... or any name kate used in each of her flashbakcs... theh theme is always there... which its not that far from belief that he could be using a diffedrent name...
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: BadRobot64 on March 28, 2009, 11:13:33 PM
I can't go along with the shape shifting either. But I can entertain the idea that Michael Emerson's character may be someone other than Ben Linus. Just not sure if I can say I like the idea entirely. We actually don't know for sure that young Ben died yet.

ok ok i can accept alof of things happeneing ont he isand liek the time treavle and the smoe whatever but shapeshirting.. that may be a little too much... i just think the ben we know took ever the ben we dont and took his life over...

OR little ben did die... and thats how he was taken by the hostiles... and lived his life lut as a living dead like the allegged hostile are anyway... until toher times arise...
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Harry Erickson on April 08, 2009, 05:15:26 AM
I think what your saying is the character that is played by Michael Emerson showed up first as Henry Gale and then revealed his name to be Ben Linus. And you think maybe his original name really was Henry Gale, and only claimed to be Ben Linus? That the reason he doesnt look like a black man anymore is that he can shape shift? Um, I can't go along with this.

And for clarification he didnt say "I hated him" he said "I hate it here". So the whole thing with the dad you said isnt what you thought.

No Willis, i'm saying that he is not henry gale or bejamin linus, that we don't know his real name and he's still lying
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: CastawayCayley on April 08, 2009, 08:37:58 AM
I think what your saying is the character that is played by Michael Emerson showed up first as Henry Gale and then revealed his name to be Ben Linus. And you think maybe his original name really was Henry Gale, and only claimed to be Ben Linus? That the reason he doesnt look like a black man anymore is that he can shape shift? Um, I can't go along with this.

And for clarification he didnt say "I hated him" he said "I hate it here". So the whole thing with the dad you said isnt what you thought.

No Willis, i'm saying that he is not henry gale or bejamin linus, that we don't know his real name and he's still lying

Willis?
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Mrs Hume on April 08, 2009, 01:36:28 PM
whatch u talkin bout willis?
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 08, 2009, 05:27:42 PM
This one doesn't seem to hold much water as we've met his (Ben's) parents & know their real names.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: The_Hatch_Monkey on April 08, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
I think what your saying is the character that is played by Michael Emerson showed up first as Henry Gale and then revealed his name to be Ben Linus. And you think maybe his original name really was Henry Gale, and only claimed to be Ben Linus? That the reason he doesnt look like a black man anymore is that he can shape shift? Um, I can't go along with this.

And for clarification he didnt say "I hated him" he said "I hate it here". So the whole thing with the dad you said isnt what you thought.

No Willis, i'm saying that he is not henry gale or bejamin linus, that we don't know his real name and he's still lying

We know his real name is Ben.  Did you ever watch the episode about him being born?  About Ben killing his father?  That makes no sense...sorry.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Mrs Hume on April 08, 2009, 06:18:22 PM
 lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 08, 2009, 07:20:51 PM
lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)
No prob.  lol  I'm used to it. :D
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: The_Hatch_Monkey on April 08, 2009, 10:48:42 PM
lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)

lol Oh, missed that one. haha.

I don't say much things with love when I get annoyed.  :-\  You all love me anyhow, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 08, 2009, 10:49:45 PM
lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)

lol Oh, missed that one. haha.

I don't say much things with love when I get annoyed.  :-\  You all love me anyhow, right?  ;)
That's one of the things we love most about you! ;D
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Mrs Hume on April 09, 2009, 03:07:54 AM
If i was annoyed i wouldn't have said it with love.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: The_Hatch_Monkey on April 09, 2009, 03:09:13 AM
lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)

lol Oh, missed that one. haha.

I don't say much things with love when I get annoyed.  :-\  You all love me anyhow, right?  ;)
That's one of the things we love most about you! ;D

Aw, I'm glad!  It seems like I rub a couple of people the wrong way on here sometimes! 
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: Mrs Hume on April 09, 2009, 03:13:28 AM
no, that's why I went out of my way to put the kiss face and all. It was just something I couldn't pass up to tease you but I forget some people don't know me well enough.   :-\
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: The_Hatch_Monkey on April 09, 2009, 03:26:01 AM
no, that's why I went out of my way to put the kiss face and all. It was just something I couldn't pass up to tease you but I forget some people don't know me well enough.   :-\

Not you, silly!  I get your sense of humor!  :D
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: grizn0 on April 09, 2009, 09:34:21 AM
I think its safe to say we could put this one to rest. I'm like 99.99999999% sure that Ben is, in fact, Ben.
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 09, 2009, 03:39:25 PM
lol Monkey,PL just said that !
(said with love  :-*)

lol Oh, missed that one. haha.

I don't say much things with love when I get annoyed.  :-\  You all love me anyhow, right?  ;)
That's one of the things we love most about you! ;D

Aw, I'm glad!  It seems like I rub a couple of people the wrong way on here sometimes! 
Soooo much is lost in postation, & humor has a 98% failure rate online.  People actually quit the boards over silly misunderstandings!  LOL
Title: Re: Michael Emerson is not Ben
Post by: darkhorse on July 18, 2009, 01:13:31 AM
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