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Title: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: patrixmith on March 20, 2009, 04:19:11 PM
Okay, it's killing me...

Where the heck are they?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Optimus J on March 20, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
I doubt they were killed à la "Flambé Frogurt" way. They won't do that with those two, specially, leaving implicit, without the dignity of showing their demise. Perhaps they will have a part on Sun's journey, soon.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BrianIsLost2 on March 20, 2009, 06:00:36 PM
Okay, it's killing me...

Where the heck are they?

Don't worry.  I'm sure we will find out soon.  Cuse and Lindilof both said that this is defiantly a question we should be asking ourselves.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: SQUIRT199 on March 20, 2009, 06:27:22 PM
in the cave all cuddly like?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: WhatThe on March 20, 2009, 06:28:56 PM
in the cave all cuddly like?

So WAS the fact that Jack found the black and white stones on "Adam" and "Eve" supposed to be a hint that Adam is Bernard and Eve is Rose? lol
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Ladybug on March 20, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
somebody had to bury all the dead red shirts.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: patrixmith on March 20, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
Haha.

You know... It would be very neat if we had an episode to catch us up with where they have been the entire time, similar to the way we were caught up with the other section of the plane in the beginning seasons. Maybe that will be the episode titled "Untitled".
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: opgelost on March 21, 2009, 09:26:35 AM
Rose and Bernard were not alone, there were a lot more 815ers.
Or did they all die?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: lostandfree on March 21, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
Rose and Bernard were not alone, there were a lot more 815ers.
Or did they all die?

It seemed like they all died.  There weren't that many 815ers left and a bunch died in the flaming arrow attack.  I was thinking they were all dead now or almost all dead.  Does anyone actually know how many were left?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Novashannon on March 21, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
I think some survived.  IThey would probably tell us if named characters kicked.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: lostandfree on March 21, 2009, 06:27:23 PM
I don't think Rose and Bernard died...but were there any other named characters left?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: westy185 on March 22, 2009, 01:06:49 PM
If Rose and Bernard (and any other 815ers) are still alive (I hope), they should be in 1977 with Sawyer and Juliet. They would have experienced the same flashes in time, just like Jin did, so would have ended up at the same point in time when Locke turned the wheel.

We know they're not part of Dharma. Wait, do we? Maybe we just haven't seen them yet. Let's see... Rose is busy inventorying supplies and Bernard has found his inner artist and is Dharma's interior decorator. Seriously, it's possible they turned up and LeFleur said they were part of his ship's crew.

Or they are living in the wild ala Rousseau. This just doesn't seem likely to me, but it's possible and could point to them eventually being "Adam and Eve."

Or they have joined the Others. I favor this because I think this middle-aged couple would be better off with the Others than living in the jungle.

I just hope they turn up again.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: E.S.B. on March 22, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
I really think they (and any remaining 815ers, which shouldn't be many) are at the caves.  The caves were a good safe place to hide (per Jack in "White Rabbit"), and provided shelter, water and protection.  I'll bet that's where they would've gone to stay away from Dharma and the Others.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: agent on March 22, 2009, 04:38:24 PM
I really think they (and any remaining 815ers, which shouldn't be many) are at the caves.  The caves were a good safe place to hide (per Jack in "White Rabbit"), and provided shelter, water and protection.  I'll bet that's where they would've gone to stay away from Dharma and the Others.

In three years, someone would have likely ventured out of the caves and stirred up the Others' or the Darmites' camps. They couldn't possibly have stayed hidden that long. I believe that they are with the Others.
After all, Rose is special (cancer gone), that should get her an "in" to the Others camp...Bernard may have a few more skills up his sleeve that we don't know about that could add value to Others as well. Any redshirts that survived could have become smoke monster fodder in a future episode.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Novashannon on March 22, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
Maybe Rose & Bernard are the skeletons they found in the pond near the caves and nicknamed "Adam and Eve."  Maybe we will see them die there in 1977.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: E.S.B. on March 22, 2009, 05:05:15 PM
I really think they (and any remaining 815ers, which shouldn't be many) are at the caves.  The caves were a good safe place to hide (per Jack in "White Rabbit"), and provided shelter, water and protection.  I'll bet that's where they would've gone to stay away from Dharma and the Others.

In three years, someone would have likely ventured out of the caves and stirred up the Others' or the Darmites' camps. They couldn't possibly have stayed hidden that long. I believe that they are with the Others.
After all, Rose is special (cancer gone), that should get her an "in" to the Others camp...Bernard may have a few more skills up his sleeve that we don't know about that could add value to Others as well. Any redshirts that survived could have become smoke monster fodder in a future episode.

Definitely a strong possibility.  Good point about 3 years- it's quite a long time to stay hidden, especially from a savvy group like the Others that seems to know everything about what happens on that Island.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: opgelost on March 22, 2009, 06:04:37 PM
The dog is with them too?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Madam P on March 22, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
That's one thing I'd feel fairly confident putting some money on... that Vincent is with Rose and Bernard.  (Really going out on a limb, there, aren't I?   ;))
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: lostandfree on March 22, 2009, 06:38:21 PM
The dog is with them too?

Oh I forgot about Vincent!  And didn't tptb say Vincent would make it to the end of season 6?  So they have to be alive somewhere.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 23, 2009, 11:00:14 AM
The dog is with them too?

Oh I forgot about Vincent!  And didn't tptb say Vincent would make it to the end of season 6?  So they have to be alive somewhere.
Yeah they said that he would have an important role to play too didnt they?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Zinzi on March 24, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
I hope Vincent is around somewhere.  Surely he can't have been time jumping/flashing too as even though I'm sure there's more to him than the average canine, he can't have coped with skipping through time and would have ended up like Eloise (the rat, not Ms Hawking!)?!  :o  I think this is why he's not been shown and also why Aaron and Ji Yeong aren't supposed to be on the island, they'd never survive time jumping.

I still like the theory that Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve (although I also think Sun and Jin are good contenders too), but until we find out where and when they are it's hard to work out how they could come to be the skeletons!  I hope that even if we don't see them that someone asks what happened to them.  We need a scene where they have a roll call of who's known to be dead and who's just MIA!  :'(
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 24, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
I hope Vincent is around somewhere.  Surely he can't have been time jumping/flashing too as even though I'm sure there's more to him than the average canine, he can't have coped with skipping through time and would have ended up like Eloise (the rat, not Ms Hawking!)?!  :o  I think this is why he's not been shown and also why Aaron and Ji Yeong aren't supposed to be on the island, they'd never survive time jumping.

I still like the theory that Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve (although I also think Sun and Jin are good contenders too), but until we find out where and when they are it's hard to work out how they could come to be the skeletons!  I hope that even if we don't see them that someone asks what happened to them.  We need a scene where they have a roll call of who's known to be dead and who's just MIA!  :'(
That is why I think Claire left Aaron. Christian probably knew that if Claire were to leave Aaron, Sawyer would find him and ultimately Kate would take him off the island for the duration of the time skips. You're probably right, his undeveloped brain would probably not have been able to withstand the skips. I know this is supposed to be about Rose and Bernard but when you said that it just jumped out at me as a reason why Claire would leave Aaron behind.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Zinzi on March 24, 2009, 10:34:46 AM
Yes me too, it had to of been a really good reason to give up her baby.  I'm still hoping that Claire is alive and has just been filled in by Christian, although how do you go about explaining it all, especially when Shephard senior is usually pretty cryptic!  ;D

Back to Rose and Bernard, if they have been time skipping, can you just imagine the bickering that would be going on?!  It's been hard enough for the rest of the left behinds to understand and they had Daniel to explain it all!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: lostfromthestart on March 24, 2009, 11:59:47 AM
They had to jump through time as well, but may have just hunkered down during this period.  Eventually, especially with the end of jumping, they are undoubtedly with the Others, as their presence would have been discovered.  Bernard is not exactly stealthy.

But yes, I can imagine Rose saying "Now what did you do?" every time they jumped. (its always the guy's fault)
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Novashannon on March 24, 2009, 12:21:27 PM
I don't see any problem with Vincent time-jumping.  Dogs have fairly complex brains, much more than rabbits or cats.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: westy185 on March 24, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
I don't see any problem with Vincent time-jumping.  Dogs have fairly coplex brains, much more than rabbits or cats.

Hsssssssssssssss!!! (angry cat)
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 24, 2009, 02:00:27 PM
Vincent is also special somehow. They (Christian, Claire, Vincent) could have been in a place where the island was protecting them from the flashes too.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Novashannon on March 24, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
I don't think Claire and Christian flashed, but we know Rose and Bernard did.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: norville on March 24, 2009, 06:48:43 PM
Didn't Jack estimate that Adam and Eve had probably been dead 50 years, based on the decomposition of their bodies and clothes?  For that reason I'm thinking they date approximately from the Army/Jughead timeframe rather than from Dharma's heyday.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 25, 2009, 08:45:45 AM
Didn't Jack estimate that Adam and Eve had probably been dead 50 years, based on the decomposition of their bodies and clothes?  For that reason I'm thinking they date approximately from the Army/Jughead timeframe rather than from Dharma's heyday.
It is possible that they died during the time they flashed back to the army/Jughead time. Their bodies would have stayed in that time just as Charlotte's did.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: DIZZYBECKSTER on March 25, 2009, 09:03:39 AM
ahh but the universe would course correct if you tried to die before you were supposed to. So thy couldnt die in the past which is why folk are aging. It's just not their time to die yet. So R&B are alive and kicking probably hunkering down with Guyliner, Cindy and the kids at the temple in 2007/8
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 25, 2009, 09:09:06 AM
Ok now I'm confused then... what about Charlotte? What time were they in when she died? Was it the time when the well was there? If so, wouldn't she have been alive off the island somewhere (or possibly on the island as a little girl)?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: DIZZYBECKSTER on March 25, 2009, 09:11:17 AM
sigh - this is where the timeline woul be useful. Dunno Griz...another unanswered question
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Novashannon on March 25, 2009, 04:19:45 PM
It seems to me that if you die in the past (which is your present) you stay dead.  You just don't exist after you flashed back. 
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on March 25, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
I can accept that.
Title: Bernard, Rose... and the rest?
Post by: LOSTNightmaregk13 on March 30, 2009, 07:31:56 AM
don't know if this has been posted before or not but what about Bernard, Rose and the rest of the losties?
i recall some being captured by the others but haven't seen them since o.O
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: Zinzi on March 30, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Me too and it's another plus for the theory that Rose and Bernard could be Adam and Eve!  Not sure how the stones fit in though?  Maybe Jack had seen Rose with them before and that's why he pocketed them?  Was he going to ask her about them and did he?  If they did belong to Rose and Bernard and are put into Jack's pocket does that mean there would be 2 sets of stones in 2004 at one stage?!  It's like the compass, I hate trying to work out these things!  I love it too though!  ;D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on March 30, 2009, 09:24:01 PM
Vincent anyone????
Title: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: Harry Erickson on April 17, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
I know for a fact that so many of you are rose and bernard fans i know i am but right now i think we need to accept their probably dead, if not dead then the others would have got them at the creek and they wouldve taken them to their base where miles, charlotte or faraday wouldve seen them. :(
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: opgelost on April 17, 2009, 02:54:10 PM
They are not dead. Sayid and Vincent are with them.
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: laklost on April 17, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
It's a great thread title, HarryE, but Opgelost is right.  We ain't done with them by a long shot.
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: Harry Erickson on April 19, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
It's a great thread title, HarryE, but Opgelost is right.  We ain't done with them by a long shot.

I dunno
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on April 19, 2009, 01:24:29 PM
You don't have enough faith in the writers. You jumped the gun on this one.
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: lostfromthestart on April 20, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
You don't have enough faith in the writers. You jumped the gun on this one.

just like Mother Superior!
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on April 20, 2009, 04:31:46 PM
You don't have enough faith in the writers. You jumped the gun on this one.
just like Mother Superior!
lol...sorry! But tptb aren't stupid, and they know we're not stupid. When they know that we have entire threads devoted to, like, what brand wallpaper a character has in his house, they can't possibly believe that we'd just forget about two characters who have had their own flashbacks. Their story will be wrapped up. They may be dead, but we will have resolution, I promise!
Title: Re: Time to come to terms with Rose & Bernard
Post by: BrianIsLost2 on April 22, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
You don't have enough faith in the writers. You jumped the gun on this one.
just like Mother Superior!
lol...sorry! But tptb aren't stupid, and they know we're not stupid. When they know that we have entire threads devoted to, like, what brand wallpaper a character has in his house, they can't possibly believe that we'd just forget about two characters who have had their own flashbacks. Their story will be wrapped up. They may be dead, but we will have resolution, I promise!

Yes, we will have a resolution on this.  TPTB actually addressed the issue of Rose and Bernard.  When the question of their whereabouts came up, their reply was "that is exactly a question you should be asking yourselves."
Title: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: Rebel 3:16 on April 26, 2009, 08:56:36 PM
Just my opinion at the moment so I posted in theories and speculation.

We havent seen them since the beach scene where Froghurt was 'harpooned' by a flaming spear - I guess they must have been 'flashing' back and forth along with the other 815ers (still puzzles me how Juliet flashes with them  :-\) but where the heck are they?
I am starting to think they took solice in the caves due to their 'knowledge' that there is fresh water up there and its relativley safe up there........ a few flashes and nose bleeds later and is anyone thinking what I am?

I think we will get a Rose and Bernard specific view of what happened to them in due course but Im guessing that they are, well I dont really have to say it do I?

Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on April 26, 2009, 09:42:23 PM
If I remember right, some people were thinking similarly here:

http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php?topic=9047.0
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: Rebel 3:16 on April 27, 2009, 12:59:10 PM
Thanks very much for that  :)

Please delete thread or whatever - sorry Mods.....  :(
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: LostinLock on April 27, 2009, 04:49:30 PM
Thanks very much for that  :)

Please delete thread or whatever - sorry Mods.....  :(

Rebel it happens all the time.  Just try and do a search before... good post though I like it ;D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: Rebel 3:16 on April 27, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
Sorry guys, I have no excuse, been here long enough to search before posting but for one reason or another (probably alcohol related  :-\) it slipped my mind. Appologies once again and feel free to delete, thanks...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: LostinLock on April 27, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
Sorry guys, I have no excuse, been here long enough to search before posting but for one reason or another (probably alcohol related  :-\) it slipped my mind. Appologies once again and feel free to delete, thanks...
Oh Rebel don't be silly there are things happening like this all the time.  I have done it too, so you are cool (((((((((((((rebel))))))))))))))
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: Rebel 3:16 on April 28, 2009, 08:40:46 PM
 ;D thanks Lil, appreciate your support x

ps. and thanks for the hug, one back for you (((((((Lil))))))) bravo!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard are dead.......
Post by: LostinLock on April 28, 2009, 08:48:03 PM
;D thanks Lil, appreciate your support x

ps. and thanks for the hug, one back for you (((((((Lil))))))) bravo!

You made a simple mistake like I said we have been there!  I admire you too thank you and you made me blush!
I have some other ideas I would like to discuss but more spoilerish so I won't do it here.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on September 03, 2009, 02:06:05 PM
Regarding Adam & Eve...

I looked through the transcript of when Jack and Kate first found them because I was looking for something but didn't exactly find it. So.. I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether Adam and Eve were wearing rings? The reason I ask is because while watching S.O.S. last night (Rose & Bernard centric) Rose tells Bernard that the island cured her and she never wants to leave. Bernard agrees. Later they are cuddling by the fire and there is this really ominous shot of their rings. So... were Adam and Eve wearing rings?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: jugdish on September 03, 2009, 02:58:14 PM
I don't believe they were, or that we could see. My memory does not see rings on Adam and Eve
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on September 03, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
Cool. I didn't think so either. Pretty sure all we were made aware of that was on them was the stones.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 03, 2009, 05:58:09 PM
there was no mention of rings on adam and eve... thatas why i dont think it was rose and bernard anymore... now i think its penny and des... the last scene we see des in seson 5 he says to penny .. i told you i will never leave you ever again.. and with them living on the island now for whatever reason... with their child Charlie Hume. who will eventually grow up to be Charles Widmore.. taking his mother's maiden name.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 03, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
I like that but why do they have to be any of our losties?  Why can't they be there from before like from the Black Rock or folks who just wen toff and hid so that their bodies couldn't be used for other things? 
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 03, 2009, 06:55:48 PM
welll i think its people we already know because TPTB have said that who adam and eve are will prove theyve had the whole plot for the show all lined up from the beginning...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 03, 2009, 08:30:55 PM
But that does not mean, in my mind, that it will be folks we know.  If so then I go with Claire and Charlie
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 03, 2009, 09:54:38 PM
welll i think its people we already know because TPTB have said that who adam and eve are will prove theyve had the whole plot for the show all lined up from the beginning...
But ... then... but Penny and Des weren't around in the beginning.  ??? So if it is them, it will only prove to us viewers that they've had it planned out since... season 2, not the beginning.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 04, 2009, 12:11:40 AM
there was no mention of rings on adam and eve... thatas why i dont think it was rose and bernard anymore... now i think its penny and des... the last scene we see des in seson 5 he says to penny .. i told you i will never leave you ever again.. and with them living on the island now for whatever reason... with their child Charlie Hume. who will eventually grow up to be Charles Widmore.. taking his mother's maiden name.
Interesting ....I like it!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 04, 2009, 04:17:02 AM
i see all your points... and with all that... not season 2 qith des n penny.. then who are the very first couple we know???? sun adn jin... but whats the connection? they are the couple that makes the most sense but the least at the same time.... grr my head hurts....
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 04, 2009, 01:14:28 PM
You were up awful early or way late to be thinking that hard....no wonder your head hurts!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 04, 2009, 01:41:43 PM
well technically i just got home from work... i worl late and my sleep pattern is off...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 04, 2009, 01:43:14 PM
Ahhhhhh I see!  All the more reason to not be thinking to hard in the middle of the night!  I just don't sleep so my sleep pattern is always a little bit off!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 04, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
but how can you not just sit and theorieze about lost alot?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 04, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
Who says I don't?  But I am usually studying......not exciting but what I do!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 04, 2009, 01:49:46 PM
oh i dont mean every second of every day, but we all know we catch ourselves in those moments where all we are thignking about is whats goin on in the show..
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 04, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Oh I agree.....I find LOST connections all the time but I am usually surrounded by people who don't get it or don't appreciate all the work I have invested in theis show!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 04, 2009, 04:19:38 PM
I am going to say Charles Widmore and Ellie hmmmmmmmmmm and I do not think they had to be on since the start of the series

Oh wait it was Jacob and MN2 just one was dressed as a woman ha haha
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 04, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
I'm still thinking Jack and Kate; they're the ones who found Adam and Eve, and there were other things that happened in that episode that I forget... grizn0 wrote it down here in another post, I'll have to go find it.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 04, 2009, 06:22:07 PM
personally that sucks.. though poetic... i hate the whole jack/kate love story..booooooorrrrriingggggg
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 04, 2009, 07:12:15 PM
I think it makes sense. It has to be someone from the first season at least, otherwise how can Adam and Eve prove that TPTB have "known what they're doing all along"?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 06, 2009, 08:56:27 PM
I think it makes sense. It has to be someone from the first season at least, otherwise how can Adam and Eve prove that TPTB have "known what they're doing all along"?

Then who could it be..??? ( as he rubs his chin in deep thought...)

well the only couples in season one that are still around as of now where we are... ( before season 6):

Jin and Sun
Rose and Bernard
Charlie and Claire? only say charlie cuz he is the only dead person we've heard him say "im dead but im still here". and then the spoiler at Comicon with "Am i dead?"  reply to see this spoiler to see what is written ...written on his hand...

Kate and Jack or Sawyer....

but all of this is before season 6 .. so who knows...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 06, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
I don't want to go back on what I said, but it was TPTB that said that Adam and Eve will prove they knew what they were doing all along... they could have totally been lying. We could come up with a hundred possibilities, but they've limited us with that statement. That's the only reason I've limited myself to first-season characters. Otherwise I'd say it was Nikki and Paolo, cause the diamond pouch looks like the pouch with the black and white stone in it, lol.

I think there's also evidence that it can be Rose and Bernard too, besides the whole black&white stones, black&white couple, lol... and them living there. I just don't know anymore, I like everybody's theories and I don't mean to be wishy-washy but I've watched all of season 3 in 3 days and am more confused than ever.  :(
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 07, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
I hope they do not go with the first season folks and it is someone else.

I hear where this is all coming from but if the identity of this couple proves the writers had a plan all along well, okay.  I mean does it really matter if they didn't have a plan all along and were writing this by the seat of their pants?

Personally I will be disappointed if it is any of season one folks or anyone from the series!  Well, let me step back and it would be good if it was the DeGroots!  We never met them other than videos.

Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 07, 2009, 02:32:44 PM
I hope they do not go with the first season folks and it is someone else.

I hear where this is all coming from but if the identity of this couple proves the writers had a plan all along well, okay.  I mean does it really matter if they didn't have a plan all along and were writing this by the seat of their pants?

Personally I will be disappointed if it is any of season one folks or anyone from the series!  Well, let me step back and it would be good if it was the DeGroots!  We never met them other than videos.



ya but you have to think of the "casual watcher" who isnt on the boards theorizing, who  isnt following the websites and/ or the ARGs the videos. who yes may have notices the Degroots other than they were mentioned, and breifly seen in videos... to the casual watcher they dont know the DeGroots like we do. they wouldnt have been able to put together that Dan went to Ann Arbor to work with the DeGroots... that he was just in Ann Arbor to them. im learning that the casual watcher needs to understand whats goign on without all the extras as well. cuz im doing the whole season rewatch with my girlfriend. im her "pop-up LOST". she's into it... she really is, but i kinda just wants to watch it and not get into all the extras... after i decided not to leave her ... lol jk... i just figured id just tell her tidbits here and there.

to get to my point.. that if they have the DeGroots be adam and eve... if they dont explain and show them this season will be a cop out and make the casual watcher scratch their heads... to us woul dbe cool.  unfortunately we have to sacrifice some of our story for the casual watchers... like the video game of LOST. to the casual player who doesnt watch the show.. the game sucks... well even knowign the story the game kinda sucked but the ending gives alot of insight to the end of the show... and ya i beat it.. but you see what im saying??
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 07, 2009, 03:44:30 PM
To heck with the casual watcher  ;D

We need closure for the hard core fans.  Gee leaving the GF cause she has not watched LOST is grounds for break up.  Glad you kept her and tell her to pay attention or else ;)  I am joking.

Oh BR I got you 100% I am self centered on my wants for LOST and as for all others they need to figure it out if they are coming into this last season. 

Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 07, 2009, 04:09:31 PM
To heck with the casual watcher  ;D

We need closure for the hard core fans.  Gee leaving the GF cause she has not watched LOST is grounds for break up.  Glad you kept her and tell her to pay attention or else ;)  I am joking.

Oh BR I got you 100% I am self centered on my wants for LOST and as for all others they need to figure it out if they are coming into this last season. 



i know... it must be hard for the writers to appease us the DIE HARD FANS  while keeping the casual watcher entertained enough to watch... and about the GF... lol ya ... at first when we me ti talked and referenced lsot so much she would just turn away in disgust... and i laid it out for her.. im like... Babe, Lost and i have been together for 5 years now and i know we just met, but youll have to respect what LOST and i have.  and eventually she saw the light... and what she saw... was beautiful.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 07, 2009, 04:25:13 PM
To heck with the casual watcher  ;D

We need closure for the hard core fans.  Gee leaving the GF cause she has not watched LOST is grounds for break up.  Glad you kept her and tell her to pay attention or else ;)  I am joking.

Oh BR I got you 100% I am self centered on my wants for LOST and as for all others they need to figure it out if they are coming into this last season. 



i know... it must be hard for the writers to appease us the DIE HARD FANS  while keeping the casual watcher entertained enough to watch... and about the GF... lol ya ... at first when we me ti talked and referenced lsot so much she would just turn away in disgust... and i laid it out for her.. im like... Babe, Lost and i have been together for 5 years now and i know we just met, but youll have to respect what LOST and i have.  and eventually she saw the light... and what she saw... was beautiful.

Oh that Smokey side of you showed her the softer side of the island  ;)  Was she rolling her eyes ::) 
That is rather funny~  I've been with LOST for five years...roflmao.  Gee odd to think that it has been five years.

Well, if they are still writer for the casual viewer then we are not appreciated. :-\
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 07, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
To heck with the casual watcher  ;D

We need closure for the hard core fans.  Gee leaving the GF cause she has not watched LOST is grounds for break up.  Glad you kept her and tell her to pay attention or else ;)  I am joking.

Oh BR I got you 100% I am self centered on my wants for LOST and as for all others they need to figure it out if they are coming into this last season. 



i know... it must be hard for the writers to appease us the DIE HARD FANS  while keeping the casual watcher entertained enough to watch... and about the GF... lol ya ... at first when we me ti talked and referenced lsot so much she would just turn away in disgust... and i laid it out for her.. im like... Babe, Lost and i have been together for 5 years now and i know we just met, but youll have to respect what LOST and i have.  and eventually she saw the light... and what she saw... was beautiful.

Oh that Smokey side of you showed her the softer side of the island  ;)  Was she rolling her eyes ::) 
That is rather funny~  I've been with LOST for five years...roflmao.  Gee odd to think that it has been five years.

Well, if they are still writer for the casual viewer then we are not appreciated. :-\

damn straight!!!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 07, 2009, 07:45:39 PM
You did tell your GF that if you loose our bets you have to write a song for me, so she isn't to upset when it happens ;) :P   
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 07, 2009, 08:14:17 PM
I want a song...I want a song!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 07, 2009, 09:00:46 PM
BR is in a great band and known in this area!  I think he is our Charlie but will not drown!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 07, 2009, 10:37:56 PM
BR is in a great band and known in this area!  I think he is our Charlie but will not drown!
Really?!?!?!  I had no idea! Sweet! ;D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 08, 2009, 12:40:26 AM
BR is in a great band and known in this area!  I think he is our Charlie but will not drown!
Really?!?!?!  I had no idea! Sweet! ;D

Ya we are opening up for the band Fuel at the end of the month... im the bassist.. www.deathbyfame.com
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 08, 2009, 12:45:32 AM
BR is in a great band and known in this area!  I think he is our Charlie but will not drown!
Really?!?!?!  I had no idea! Sweet! ;D

Ya we are opening up for the band Fuel at the end of the month... im the bassist.. www.deathbyfame.com
Oh Cool- I will have to check it out! 
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 08, 2009, 12:46:32 AM
BR is in a great band and known in this area!  I think he is our Charlie but will not drown!
Really?!?!?!  I had no idea! Sweet! ;D

Ya we are opening up for the band Fuel at the end of the month... im the bassist.. www.deathbyfame.com
Oh Cool- I will have to check it out! 

yes... yes you will
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 08, 2009, 12:49:06 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 08, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
I know someone who just went to see Fuel this weekend
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 09, 2009, 07:58:59 PM
what you talking about lil??? and its not til the 26th... :P
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 09, 2009, 08:00:28 PM
Sorry wrong band, my head was confused.  umm someone has a bday tomorrow
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 10, 2009, 01:29:39 AM
or now tis today... thank you...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 12, 2009, 08:20:23 AM
Twas two days ago
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on September 12, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
twis... agreed
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 13, 2009, 11:05:18 AM
how are you ?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: JMart on September 16, 2009, 04:34:17 PM
there was no mention of rings on adam and eve... thatas why i dont think it was rose and bernard anymore... now i think its penny and des... the last scene we see des in seson 5 he says to penny .. i told you i will never leave you ever again.. and with them living on the island now for whatever reason... with their child Charlie Hume. who will eventually grow up to be Charles Widmore.. taking his mother's maiden name.

stealin' my theory knuckle head
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 16, 2009, 06:11:06 PM
But don't penny and des have wedding rings, too?  :-\
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 16, 2009, 08:32:48 PM
But don't penny and des have wedding rings, too?  :-\

They threw them into the ocean as a sign of their love.

It is going to be Ben and his childhood honey
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 16, 2009, 08:51:26 PM
Ben and Annie would be sweet; we still don't know what happened to her!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: E.S.B. on September 16, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
I hope we find out about Annie.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 16, 2009, 09:07:48 PM
I know, huh? Maybe she left during the mass exodus from the island during the Incident-time.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: E.S.B. on September 16, 2009, 09:11:19 PM
I hope so...   but I fear it may be something more sinister, given how badly Ben turned out.   :-\
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 16, 2009, 09:14:15 PM
I hope so...   but I fear it may be something more sinister, given how badly Ben turned out.   :-\
We will have to wait and find out!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on September 16, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Even if it's just a passing comment about what happened to her, I'd be satisfied. We don't need an entire episode devoted to her (unless she's really, REALLY important, but I don't see that happening).
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: nejsitsol on September 16, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
Even if it's just a passing comment about what happened to her, I'd be satisfied. We don't need an entire episode devoted to her (unless she's really, REALLY important, but I don't see that happening).
Agreed!
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on September 17, 2009, 07:30:42 AM
I think Annie was an exit the island character. 
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: JMart on October 12, 2009, 12:41:28 AM
haven't you guys heard that annie is kate? lol
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on October 12, 2009, 09:27:23 AM
Oh please .........Annie is dead ::) :P
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on October 12, 2009, 12:13:10 PM
i mean obviously Annie was big enough to show heart for Ben and that he was human once... and to just have her mysteriously go away... im sure they have somethign for closure planned for that even if it is just a mention and telling of her story rather than showing...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on October 12, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
One would think but they would have a show for another season with the ties up on this show. :-\
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: JMart on October 14, 2009, 01:08:35 AM
there's not that many questions left.. i have faith they'll answer the **** we care about.. i do care about where the hell annie went.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on October 15, 2009, 02:26:00 AM
there's not that many questions left.. i have faith they'll answer the **** we care about.. i do care about where the hell annie went.

I heard Annie is someone we already know...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on October 16, 2009, 05:30:08 PM
there's not that many questions left.. i have faith they'll answer the **** we care about.. i do care about where the hell annie went.

I heard Annie is someone we already know...

She was Tom---seriously if you go down the list of who did she grow up to be well  you could spend to much time wasted
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: E.S.B. on October 16, 2009, 10:43:27 PM
She was Tom

LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on October 17, 2009, 10:12:33 AM
She was Tom

LOL   ;D

Or should I say Zeke X-D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on October 18, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
She was Tom

LOL   ;D

Or should I say Zeke X-D

Well he is gay so with all the dharma money he might have gotten a sex change..
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on October 18, 2009, 06:44:28 PM
Oh maybe he is Adam and Eve....laughing snorting and laughing

Okay seriously back on track not rose and bernard I want them to be happy ever after
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on October 20, 2009, 03:09:06 PM
Oh maybe he is Adam and Eve....laughing snorting and laughing

Okay seriously back on track not rose and bernard I want them to be happy ever after

It really is a toss up who adam and eve are... but ill put stock in that it is Rose and Bernard... they do deserve to be happy their entire story needs to have a happy ending...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 08, 2009, 06:37:31 PM
Their death would not make me happy!   :-\
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 08, 2009, 08:04:47 PM
if youve seen the new promo poster for season 6... Damon himself has said on a podcast is that everythign is literal... whose there.. whta tthey look like and who is not there... one thing i did notice is that Rose n Bernard are their grizzly selves where everyone else look like their "origional" selves like from the 1st season.. and vincent and walt arent there... and then theres the thing about LOCKE ... youd have to check it out... its pretty cool... even the way/ colors people are dressed in, and who they are standing next to... very intersting...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 08, 2009, 08:44:02 PM
All done by design so I take with a grain of salt and a pinch of pepper BR.  All by design
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on November 09, 2009, 12:08:03 PM
I noticed the thing about Locke too BR. Interesting indeed...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 09, 2009, 12:56:19 PM
Yeah not sure if this can be mentioned here or not but I saw it too.  I am taking this all with a grain of salt if you read the interview that juggy posted they said it was all by design.
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: grizn0 on November 09, 2009, 02:30:39 PM
Where is this posted interview?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 09, 2009, 06:43:36 PM
in spoiler section I believe when i find it I ill pm you
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 09, 2009, 09:31:15 PM
Yeah not sure if this can be mentioned here or not but I saw it too.  I am taking this all with a grain of salt if you read the interview that juggy posted they said it was all by design.
the only reason i thought that this info i sent searlier isnt spoilerish is because its intentional public knowledge... its the promotional poster... and cmon whoever calls them a lostie will disect everythign they put out form her on him i was just commenting on it.. and also somethign quoted from a public podcast from damon lindleof himself and i quoted him... i knwo its borderline spoilerish but spoilerish would be saying libby is jacobs daughter ( which isnt real i jus tmade it up to make apoint) or am i wrong? lol
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 09, 2009, 09:32:30 PM
Yeah not sure if this can be mentioned here or not but I saw it too.  I am taking this all with a grain of salt if you read the interview that juggy posted they said it was all by design.
the only reason i thought that this info i sent searlier isnt spoilerish is because its intentional public knowledge... its the promotional poster... and cmon whoever calls them a lostie will disect everythign they put out form her on him i was just commenting on it.. and also somethign quoted from a public podcast from damon lindleof himself and i quoted him... i knwo its borderline spoilerish but spoilerish would be saying libby is jacobs daughter ( which isnt real i jus tmade it up to make apoint) or am i wrong? lol

You know how to reach me with spoiler stuff you don't want to put on here.  I know, you and I have fun bantering
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 09, 2009, 09:40:43 PM
im ust saying i didnt realize it was spoilerish.. i apologiize to everyone... ui usually post spoilerish stuff in the spoiler rooms... im sorry. call me sad robot
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 09, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
I dont' think you provided spoilers here.  I was not sure so I refrained, you know how some folks may perceive that, if it was our friendly mods would have told us.

How are you?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 09, 2009, 09:50:51 PM
ive been well... not much really n you?
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 09, 2009, 09:54:18 PM
I have been good having a bit of a struggle tonight but that cloud will pass soon enough
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 10, 2009, 02:01:58 PM
they all do...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 10, 2009, 07:06:13 PM
And there are silver linings in each cloud
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 11, 2009, 02:37:08 PM
you know i never really understood the imagery of that... why wud a silver lined cloud be good... wouldnt that rain silver upon us and hurt a bunch of ppl???
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 11, 2009, 03:41:21 PM
you know i never really understood the imagery of that... why wud a silver lined cloud be good... wouldnt that rain silver upon us and hurt a bunch of ppl???

Silver = shiny ergo a sliver lining is a shiny lining  ;D 
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 12, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
you know i never really understood the imagery of that... why wud a silver lined cloud be good... wouldnt that rain silver upon us and hurt a bunch of ppl???

Silver = shiny ergo a sliver lining is a shiny lining  ;D 
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i know i was being sefecious :P
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 13, 2009, 01:36:18 PM
you know i never really understood the imagery of that... why wud a silver lined cloud be good... wouldnt that rain silver upon us and hurt a bunch of ppl???

Silver = shiny ergo a sliver lining is a shiny lining  ;D 
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i know i was being sefecious :P

you teasing me BR?  I am ticklish too but only when i am in the mood
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 17, 2009, 03:38:10 PM
yes i am teaseing you...and to all you who didnt get it... i was beign fececious when i spelled it like "fececious"
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 17, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
yes i am teaseing you...and to all you who didnt get it... i was beign fececious when i spelled it like "fececious"

I got you x-D
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: BadRobot64 on November 18, 2009, 05:03:04 AM
also soemthign about rose and bernard... on the new season 6 promo... they are the only ones... cept id say lapedius that are from teh present day ... though you can pick that poster a part... looks liek im goign to have to start another thread...
Title: Re: Rose and Bernard...
Post by: LostinLock on November 18, 2009, 08:47:37 PM
No Rose and Bernard were in the 70's remember they found them and asked if they wanted tea. Not present but the past