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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 5 => Episode 5x06 => Topic started by: JMart on February 18, 2009, 11:34:33 PM

Title: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: JMart on February 18, 2009, 11:34:33 PM
on the plane, as he was getting up he said something pretty interesting.. then next thing you know the plane's about the crash.. i believe the comment had something to do with that..


my memory sucks.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: taki1379 on February 18, 2009, 11:35:35 PM
i think that jack reading the note had something to do with it. maybe he believed
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: DizzyIzzy on February 18, 2009, 11:36:27 PM
I thought the plane wouldn't crash until Jack read John's note. And in a way, John did blame Jack in that note.   I still get surprised when seemly bad guys do good things like Ben lighting the candle in church.  And John blaming Jack.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: CastawayCayley on February 18, 2009, 11:36:45 PM
Jack was looking at the unopened letter, and Ben said, "I'll give you your privacy". then Jack opened it and the plane started shaking. Was that the scene?
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: JMart on February 18, 2009, 11:37:35 PM
but what did ben say to jack as he was standing up? it wasn't about the note.. it was like


"we need some tragedy" or something crazy



edit: cayley... you're right.. i thought he said something more evil lol
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: blueeyed2200 on February 18, 2009, 11:38:35 PM
Hmmm   . . . I will have to go back and check that out . . . All I caught was about giving him privacy
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: jugdish on February 18, 2009, 11:38:49 PM
I'll give you some privacy

But where did he go?
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: JMart on February 18, 2009, 11:39:19 PM
to the bathroom... and jumped out the toilet.. :(
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: DizzyIzzy on February 18, 2009, 11:39:30 PM
I thought Ben said he wanted to give some private time... geesh, just watched and can't remember.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: blueeyed2200 on February 18, 2009, 11:40:07 PM
Why would he jump out of the toilet??
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: becksmex on February 18, 2009, 11:42:43 PM
He just wanted to give him space... Jack was getting all teary and Ben can't stand criers!  ;)
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: JMart on February 18, 2009, 11:43:38 PM
ben can transform to smoke and seep out the toilet hole...



thanks for clearing it up guys!
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on February 18, 2009, 11:50:46 PM
he went up to the front like Charlie did.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: blueeyed2200 on February 18, 2009, 11:51:44 PM
ben can transform to smoke and seep out the toilet hole...



thanks for clearing it up guys!

Did I miss something about him turning into smoke??
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on February 19, 2009, 07:11:26 AM
he went up to the front like Charlie did.
Yes.  Somebody had to be in the lavatory, like Charlie was.  We still need a wheelchair.....
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: powerful on February 19, 2009, 08:07:39 AM
for replicating the same situation as Oceanic 815, Ben's going to toilet action may reflect Bernard.
Just a small note. =]
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on February 19, 2009, 09:40:03 AM
Charlie was in first class toilet and Bernard must have been in the tail section toilet.  Which one did Ben go to?
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on February 19, 2009, 09:45:48 AM
This is a question about something Ben said-just not on the plane. When he was talking to Jack in the church about the story of Thomas and Jack asked if he ever believed it. Ben says "of course he did _______" and that blank was not Jack. I could swear he called him John. I rewound it like 5 times. He did not say Jack. If anyone rewatches the episode please listen to this part and tell me I am not crazy!
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Post by: CastawayCayley on February 19, 2009, 10:03:08 AM
you're not crazy, it did sound like John. But sounded more like "Jaaa" with the last letter undetectable. So while it seemed like he said "John" because you can't hear the "ck", I think it was just a really quiet "Jack". Or, he mistakenly called him John and let it slip out in a midwestern or Bostonian accent. :D

Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on February 19, 2009, 10:11:19 AM
Jack is a nickname for John.  Maybe he was being formal.  I'll have to listen to it again.  Did anyone record it with closed captioning?
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Post by: Jungle Otter on February 19, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
Why would he jump out of the toilet??

because he's full of sh*t  ;) ;D
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Post by: blueeyed2200 on February 19, 2009, 11:17:23 AM
Yeah, I was pretty sure he called Jack "John" too but I wasn't sure why . .
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Post by: Suzanne4au2 on February 19, 2009, 02:01:53 PM
Jack is a nickname for John.  Maybe he was being formal.  I'll have to listen to it again.  Did anyone record it with closed captioning?
OH I didn't even think about that lol. I will check it out when I get home!
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: zeekloveslost on February 19, 2009, 02:46:36 PM
according the transcript posted on Lostpedia:

JACK: So was he?
BEN: Of course he was. We're all convinced sooner or later, Jack.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on February 19, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
Thanks Zeek for looking! It just threw me for a loop because it did not sound like he said Jack :-\
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: BobBX542 on February 19, 2009, 04:34:47 PM
he went up to the front like Charlie did.
Yes.  Somebody had to be in the lavatory, like Charlie was.  We still need a wheelchair.....

No we don't, because if you remember correctly, the flight attendants told Locke that they could not find the wheel chair they usually use for handicapped passengers, so the bigger attendants carried him on. If you want to get really technical about it though, Locke is fulfilling three roles by being dead. He's taking Christian's place as the body in the coffin, BUT he actually is John Locke so he's on the plane, and because he's dead, he can't walk, and I'm assuming that someone had to physically put the coffin where it is on the plane, so Locke got carried on again. LOL, that's pretty funny SOL, jump started my brain there.
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Post by: Chuckie on February 21, 2009, 03:37:55 AM
you're not crazy, it did sound like John. But sounded more like "Jaaa" with the last letter undetectable.

I think Ben was intentionally calling him John. Do you have a friend who's really annoying (we'll call him Bob), and then you have another friend (let's call him Brian) who starts acting like Bob, so you insult him by going, "Ok, whatever you say Bo...er...BRIAN" Well I think this is what Ben was doing. I think Jack is becoming the "man of faith" that John always wanted him to be, and Ben is pointing out that Jack is turning into John.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: hackgrid on February 21, 2009, 08:53:01 AM
Ben went to the toilet and called Jacob with his magic box to get special  people beamed out the plane to the island!
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: MangoBingo on February 21, 2009, 09:39:24 AM
he went up to the front like Charlie did.

If Cindy is/was an off-Island Other, Ben may be her proxy.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: nejsitsol on February 21, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
I wondered about this Ben comment:
Jack: How can you read?
Ben: My mother taught me.

We all know that isn't true....hmmmmm
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Souldrinker on February 21, 2009, 06:38:14 PM
I wondered about this Ben comment:
Jack: How can you read?
Ben: My mother taught me.

We all know that isn't true....hmmmmm

Ben made a joke...don't read to much into it ;)
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: BobBX542 on February 23, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
you're not crazy, it did sound like John. But sounded more like "Jaaa" with the last letter undetectable.

I think Ben was intentionally calling him John. Do you have a friend who's really annoying (we'll call him Bob), and then you have another friend (let's call him Brian) who starts acting like Bob, so you insult him by going, "Ok, whatever you say Bo...er...BRIAN" Well I think this is what Ben was doing. I think Jack is becoming the "man of faith" that John always wanted him to be, and Ben is pointing out that Jack is turning into John.

So, uh,Chuckie, what exactly are you saying?? Are you saying I'm annoying?? Are you?? Huh?? Huh?? Are you?? Are you?? Because that's not very nice. Nope, not very nice at all. If I were to make a list of nice things, calling someone annoying wouldn't be on that list. Nope, it sure wouldn't be. You know why?? Because that's not very nice at all. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, in which case, my bad.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: Chuckie on February 23, 2009, 05:35:09 PM
HAHA! Well...um... :-X
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: lostfromthestart on February 23, 2009, 06:07:54 PM
That's annoying, Chuckie.
Title: Re: ben's comment right before getting out of his seat...
Post by: BobBX542 on February 24, 2009, 04:51:48 PM
Leave Britt...er, uh, Chuckie alone!! LOL