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Title: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Swank13 on May 30, 2008, 11:32:49 AM
I was thinking it may be possible that after the Dharma purge Ben and the others used the trained polar bears to move the island at least once before.  Could explain the need to move the island after Danielle's boat crashed on the island.  Also would explain why a polar bear was found in the middle of Tunisia.  This would also make sure that everyone on the island could remain.....

Now if we don't believe Ben (and why should we) he could just have been using this chance to get off the island to find Widmore, kill Penny, gather the rest of the Survivors and get back to the island.

Thoughts????
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: hefalumps on May 30, 2008, 11:44:05 AM
Interesting theory! Can't say I support it 100%, but it sounds like it could be possible.

I definitely think the island has been moved at least once or twice before. I wonder if Widmore or Abbadon were one of the previous "movers", and that's why they're motivated to find the island again.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: solost on May 30, 2008, 11:47:07 AM
I was thinking it may be possible that after the Dharma purge Ben and the others used the trained polar bears to move the island at least once before.  Could explain the need to move the island after Danielle's boat crashed on the island.  Also would explain why a polar bear was found in the middle of Tunisia.  This would also make sure that everyone on the island could remain.....

Now if we don't believe Ben (and why should we) he could just have been using this chance to get off the island to find Widmore, kill Penny, gather the rest of the Survivors and get back to the island.

Thoughts????
Do you mean polar bears to move the frozen wheel? Hey they were smart bears, they figured out how to get food in their cage quicker then Sawyer did!!
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Writers_Strike on May 30, 2008, 11:54:08 AM
All of the stations were put there by Dharma in the 60's/70's or whenever they came to the island. Obviosly the island has not moved since Dharma took over because Ben had to blow out the wall with the teleporting Microwave. Why would ben and others fix the wall after killing off Dharma??
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: CrashandCari on May 30, 2008, 12:00:35 PM
you know thats not such a bad idea..

the wheel is called a donkey wheel so if donkeys can be trained to go in circles to move it why not a polar bear?

and you made a great point about ben lying just so he could leave.. except he looked up and said "are you happy now jacob".. which sort of goes to the truth of him saying he had to leave
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: WhatThe on May 30, 2008, 12:03:44 PM
All of the stations were put there by Dharma in the 60's/70's or whenever they came to the island. Obviosly the island has not moved since Dharma took over because Ben had to blow out the wall with the teleporting Microwave. Why would ben and others fix the wall after killing off Dharma??

That's what I was wondering, too. You'd think they'd build another entry into the Move The Island room so that they didn't have to always dump tin foil into the teleporting microwave.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: quick127 on May 30, 2008, 12:05:55 PM
There were ladders placed in the passage going down to the wheel chamber.

That means people have been there before.  I doubt it was the first time the island was moved.

I fully support the polar bear idea.  How else would a polar bear show up in the desert?

I'm certain it's been moved before.  As to why - speculation remains.  I'm trying to remember if Rouseau ever spoke about a loud noise on the island after her arrival - the uber hum that ushered in the relocation.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Maxor127 on May 30, 2008, 12:08:53 PM
I like it.  It seems like it would be awkward enough for a bear to move the wheel though.  But the theory makes sense.  What I'm wondering is WHY is it frozen down there and exactly how deep is that?  Is the island core made of ice?
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: *MaZ* on May 30, 2008, 12:09:46 PM
That's a very good theory! Makes perfect sense as to how a Dharma bear was found in Tunisia! And the Ben bit also makes sense, he's not one to give up easily...yeap, I think you might have nailed it! Good job!
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: WhatThe on May 30, 2008, 12:11:52 PM
There were ladders placed in the passage going down to the wheel chamber.

That means people have been there before.  I doubt it was the first time the island was moved.

I fully support the polar bear idea.  How else would a polar bear show up in the desert?
Well, considering it was cold down there, the polar bears might have been down there (or somewhere down there) simply to help give them a more natural habitat. Just something about "trained polar bears" that makes me think of the circus.

Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 30, 2008, 12:17:53 PM
Frozen Polar Bear Wheel? I'm thinking you may be on to something here...
Title: Polar Bear in the Desert
Post by: One Bad Malafaala on May 30, 2008, 12:20:06 PM
Earlier in the year we saw Charlotte examining a polar bear skeleton in the desert.  The "donkey" wheel may have actually been a polar bear wheel.  Polar bears would be able to stay in the icy lair.  When they needed the wheel turned they could hook a chain/collar to the wheel and let the bear turn it.  Ben also ended up in the desert when he turned the wheel. 

Did the polar bear Charlotte was examining have a Orchid Station collar on?

Maybe the polar bear was a test?
Title: Re: Polar Bear in the Desert
Post by: WhatThe on May 30, 2008, 12:21:28 PM
Um...lol
Title: Re: Polar Bear in the Desert
Post by: WhatThe on May 30, 2008, 12:22:02 PM
Oh, and just to clarify lol:

http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php?topic=8098.0

:)
Title: Re: Polar Bear in the Desert
Post by: One Bad Malafaala on May 30, 2008, 12:24:31 PM
Damn I thought I had a good idea, guess somebody beat me to it.  Sorry
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: quick127 on May 30, 2008, 12:24:39 PM
I definitely agree with you about Ben as well.  I don't think he's stuck off the island.  I think, as always, he's manipulating everyone around him to achieve his ultimate goals.  Whatever they may be.

His immediate goal - returning to the island.  I think he can go back just as easily as anyone else.  Which is to say - with a lot of difficulty.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on May 30, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
Polar Bear was a "Full Sized " test dummy for the transporter and it ended up in Tunisa. Total miss fie on calculations and "poof" in the sand box. Ben last night did everything backwards from what Locke saw of the Orchid tapes. Basiclly he took forks and stuck them in a microwave oven. "BOOM!" Ben has blown out the back wall to the transporter and makes his way to the islands energy source. What Ben did and what the polar bear did are two different things that happened. The "gear" was to activate the entire island (which has a 5 mile raidus around it). I just add that because Jin is alive.

J= John Lock
A= Aaron
C= Christian Shepard
O=?
B= Ben Linus

Richard is evil and Ben is good
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Writers_Strike on May 30, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
Polar Bear was a "Full Sized " test dummy for the transporter and it ended up in Tunisa. Total miss fie on calculations and "poof" in the sand box. Ben last night did everything backwards from what Locke saw of the Orchid tapes. Basiclly he took forks and stuck them in a microwave oven. "BOOM!" Ben has blown out the back wall to the transporter and makes his way to the islands energy source. What Ben did and what the polar bear did are two different things that happened. The "gear" was to activate the entire island (which has a 5 mile raidus around it). I just add that because Jin is alive.

J= John Lock
A= Aaron
C= Christian Shepard
O=?
B= Ben Linus

Richard is evil and Ben is good

If Jin is alive and with the island, then the wreckage of the freighter and helocopter and O6 would be with the island. They were closer to it then the boat.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Gutterball94 on May 30, 2008, 01:24:33 PM
Back to that polar bear idea...
How would they get the polar bear down there? Unless of course the trained it to insert metal objects into the chamber, activate it, climb down the ladder, clear ice so that the wheel could move, AND spin that wheel. Those are some pretty well trained bears... maybe I should get one. And did they really manage to stuff a polar bear and one or two people onto the Orchid elevator? I suppose your theory could hold water, but there are a couple things we need to know first. First and foremost: Is there any other way to get to the wheel? And if there was I don't think Ben would waste time with the collecting of metal and the exploding of the chamber. I don't know... call me skeptical but it's the little questions like these that get me to disagree.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 30, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
Back to that polar bear idea...
How would they get the polar bear down there? Unless of course the trained it to insert metal objects into the chamber, activate it, climb down the ladder, clear ice so that the wheel could move, AND spin that wheel. Those are some pretty well trained bears... maybe I should get one. And did they really manage to stuff a polar bear and one or two people onto the Orchid elevator? I suppose your theory could hold water, but there are a couple things we need to know first. First and foremost: Is there any other way to get to the wheel? And if there was I don't think Ben would waste time with the collecting of metal and the exploding of the chamber. I don't know... call me skeptical but it's the little questions like these that get me to disagree.

spoil sport :-\

;) ;) I'm just kidding, all excellent points.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: T Mack on May 30, 2008, 02:21:13 PM
The 'wheel' and the 'transporter' (Not a transporter in reality, but a time travel machine, Ben said it himself last night he said 'time traveling bunnies', not 'teleporting bunnies') are 2 completely different things.

I agree with Lost n Detroit.  The polar bear was time traveled teleported to Tunisia as an experiment.  The moving of the island is a much greater magic trick than the time traveling and is located at the core of the islands power.  The  time traveling pod simply channeled some of the power into a single energy source so that the traveling could take place.

The real question for me is, when Locke asked Ben "so is this the Magic Box"? and Ben said no, then what is the Magic Box?  I believe Ben was lying.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Gutterball94 on May 30, 2008, 03:46:05 PM
I still think that the magic box is purely a metaphor...
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on May 30, 2008, 03:50:47 PM
I thought the same thing when he said "Is this the magic box?"
I purely thought that this is how Locke's father made it to the island. It's simply a transporter but when Ben added the Metal it acted like a microwave oven and blew the back out of the transporter container leading to the power source.

There has to be a magic box.   ???
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: T Mack on May 30, 2008, 04:18:10 PM
There is definitley a magic box.

Here are my thoughts in another thread regarding polar bears being trained donkeys or used as domestic farm animals.  Not gonna happen IMO.

"Just to be clear, donkey's could have never turned that wheel (neither could polar bears for that matter), because they have no hands.  There was no way to 'walk around' 360 degrees and turn the wheel, they would have to be able to walk through walls, which we know is not even possible on Lost.   Only one side of the wheel was accessible because of the wall. The wheel had to be turned by humans with hands."
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: JackCrow on May 30, 2008, 04:34:53 PM
But then again, the island didn't teleport, it just shifted in time.  Based on when Ben landed in Tunesia, the island won't be around again for another 10 months.

Jack
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 30, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
The Orchid's purpose was studying how the anomalies of the Island allowed movement in space and time.

Ben moves in both so we may well see that the Island moves in both. It may take months for it to reappear (to the extent an invisible Island will do that  ;)), but I reckon it'll be in a different place.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Asmodean on May 30, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
*raising the ridiculous flag*
Polar bears moving a wheel big enough for a man between the levers?

When a scientist type does an experiment in say, teleportation, he will start small.  Mouse, then rabbit, cow, as many cats as possible and just before human trials, maybe something of comparable size on hand, like a polar bear.

There was an entire Dharma zoological station to pick and choose from.  They were tying to build a better polar bear, so to speak, like we train dolphins.  At another Dharma station, they were doing teleportations and needed something to send to the desert.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: MangoBingo on May 30, 2008, 08:52:58 PM
I just saw the DHARMA-constructed pod within The Orchid as a "front end" to control whatever force The Island's warping (?) area already possesses.

If it were a car, Ben didn't damage the engine, he just removed the dashboard.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 30, 2008, 10:41:48 PM
Or cut a hole in the dashboard so he could get to the engine.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: hatch4815162342 on May 31, 2008, 12:15:28 AM
sounds like when the hatch imploded
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: eelpie62 on May 31, 2008, 01:21:07 AM
I'm guessing that a previous island move involved it suddenly appearing under a certain slave ship, leaving the ship mysteriously far in-land.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Asmodean on May 31, 2008, 01:27:24 AM
That'd be my guess too.  Maybe even a Nigerian Beechcraft.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: PrincessLeia on May 31, 2008, 01:57:46 AM
@ 1st pass, I really liked Swank13's & One Bad Malafaala's thoughts however, there are these little nagging questions. ;)

Back to that polar bear idea...
How would they get the polar bear down there? Unless of course the trained it to insert metal objects into the chamber, activate it, climb down the ladder, clear ice so that the wheel could move, AND spin that wheel. Those are some pretty well trained bears... maybe I should get one. And did they really manage to stuff a polar bear and one or two people onto the Orchid elevator? I suppose your theory could hold water, but there are a couple things we need to know first. First and foremost: Is there any other way to get to the wheel? And if there was I don't think Ben would waste time with the collecting of metal and the exploding of the chamber. I don't know... call me skeptical but it's the little questions like these that get me to disagree.

The 'wheel' and the 'transporter' (Not a transporter in reality, but a time travel machine, Ben said it himself last night he said 'time traveling bunnies', not 'teleporting bunnies') are 2 completely different things.

I agree with Lost n Detroit.  The polar bear was time traveled teleported to Tunisia as an experiment.  The moving of the island is a much greater magic trick than the time traveling and is located at the core of the islands power.  The  time traveling pod simply channeled some of the power into a single energy source so that the traveling could take place.

The real question for me is, when Locke asked Ben "so is this the Magic Box"? and Ben said no, then what is the Magic Box?  I believe Ben was lying.
I agree that the polar bear was sent to Tunisia during an experiment.  Animal experimentation was shown with bunny #15.

I believe the Orchid to be the "magic box," in that it is used for time travel & teleportation, but yes, Ben did use that term metaphorically with Locke.  Locke did not simply wish his father into a big black top hat.  The Others brought him to Locke as tying up those loose ends was required in Locke's journey to where he is now.

I'm guessing that a previous island move involved it suddenly appearing under a certain slave ship, leaving the ship mysteriously far in-land.
Agreed, however Lindelof has said that the Beechcraft's crash was related to the Island's magnetic properties. 
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: ericd543 on May 31, 2008, 05:25:42 AM
Did the polar bear Charlotte was examining have a Orchid Station collar on?

When 402 aired there was a screen cap of the Tunisian polar bear's collar posted here (http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2008/02/4x02-polar-bear-collar.php). It looks like the Hydra station (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Hydra) logo on its collar.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostinAlaska on May 31, 2008, 06:24:44 AM
I do think it's a little silly to say the bears could push around that wheel in the babysized room a long ways down in the middle of the earth. However. Maybe we didn't see the whole room? Or maybe there's another way to get in, but not from the island's side? I should probably wiki info on polar bears. Somehow they're significant. Perhaps they accidentally found some kind of portal to get onto the island from wherever they came from? But this is Lost so maybe they just jumped on a plane and needed a vaca to Indonesia and a reason to use up their flyer miles  :-\
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: WhatThe on May 31, 2008, 07:00:59 AM
I'm guessing that a previous island move involved it suddenly appearing under a certain slave ship, leaving the ship mysteriously far in-land.

yeah, I brought up that possibility several weeks ago as well. Seems the most logical explanation.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 31, 2008, 09:52:03 AM
I'm guessing that a previous island move involved it suddenly appearing under a certain slave ship, leaving the ship mysteriously far in-land.

yeah, I brought up that possibility several weeks ago as well. Seems the most logical explanation.

I agree this is reasonable (to the extent that word makes sense when we're talking about teleportation and time travel). And if the Island were located off the coast of Africa not too many years ago, it would help explain the Nigerian plane.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: RM on May 31, 2008, 12:19:56 PM
If you can teach a polar bear to press a lever to get a fish cracker then you could certainly train it to push a wheel a few turns.  Plus, a polar bear is a lot stronger than Ben would be.

But I think teleportation is a by-product of releasing the energy, which turning the wheel did.  I'd assume they had more sophisticated ways to channel that energy (the bunny chamber).

As for having to blow up the chamber to get down into the wheel chamber.  Maybe that's just an emergency solution because they couldn't go the regular way since Keamy's men were around.

Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 31, 2008, 04:34:16 PM
I imagine the reason for the explosion is similar to this... the normal way is blocked. But it can't be because of the mercs. They're all dead at this point.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Asmodean on May 31, 2008, 04:38:13 PM
Did I hear Hollowax correct on tape saying the bunny will "appear" to disappear?
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: FrostyLosty on May 31, 2008, 05:13:38 PM
Makes good sence, but how would a polar bear know when exactly to push the wheel?
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 31, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
Makes good sence, but how would a polar bear know when exactly to push the wheel?

I had to laugh at this. Only in the world of Lost would we say a polar bear pushing a wheel to make an Island move in time and space makes sense.  ;D
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: PrincessLeia on May 31, 2008, 06:17:25 PM
Makes good sence, but how would a polar bear know when exactly to push the wheel?

I had to laugh at this. Only in the world of Lost would we say a polar bear pushing a wheel to make an Island move in time and space makes sense.  ;D
LOL  Too funny. 

Dave says I'm just fine. ;D
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 31, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Charlie says hello, PL!
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: MangoBingo on June 02, 2008, 02:40:35 PM
Or cut a hole in the dashboard so he could get to the engine.

Exactly.

Even Hallowax stated on the VCR that the pod was utilising something which already existed in the first place. Ben didn't irrepairably damage anything - he just made it harder to use.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on June 02, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
Ben only destroyed the transporter and nothing else. If the island was moved previously there would be other ways to access the donkey wheel. Though as you notice as Ben took the most direct way to the source which was through the wall. It is a ridicoulis idea to say that because there was ice in the room that this is what the polar bears were used for. To turn a donkey wheel! Polar bears were used for large size test dummies for the transporter and maybe climate experiments.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: captaintau on June 02, 2008, 03:28:41 PM
I was thinking it may be possible that after the Dharma purge Ben and the others used the trained polar bears to move the island at least once before.  Could explain the need to move the island after Danielle's boat crashed on the island.  Also would explain why a polar bear was found in the middle of Tunisia.  This would also make sure that everyone on the island could remain.....
That is brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Madam P on June 04, 2008, 03:29:45 PM
I'm guessing that a previous island move involved it suddenly appearing under a certain slave ship, leaving the ship mysteriously far in-land.

yeah, I brought up that possibility several weeks ago as well. Seems the most logical explanation.

I agree this is reasonable (to the extent that word makes sense when we're talking about teleportation and time travel). And if the Island were located off the coast of Africa not too many years ago, it would help explain the Nigerian plane.

Yes, because one of the nagging questions was how could a tiny little plane like a Beechcraft fly all the way from Nigeria to where the island is (was) now?  Good catch.

How about this then -- did the island, in some previous move, end up underneath the ruins of a four-toed statue?  I was watching National Geo about Stonehenge the other night and this occurred to me.  Maybe the four-toed statue doesn't have anything to do with any ancient inhabitants of "our" island, but it came from some other place that our island happened to materialize under?  Like, oh, say Atlantis or something?
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on June 04, 2008, 04:45:13 PM
So I am to asume that this-
Island moves and.....
beachcraft slams into a tree killing Yemi somewhere off Africa
Henry Gale's ballon is drifting along and "blam!"
French scientist freighter floats along and "crash!" into the island

If you are kind of saying this then either 815 ran into the island on accident or the island popped up under them and caused them to crash.

Pilot said they were off 1,000 miles
Des said it's because he didn't push the button

Theories?
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: JBRam on June 05, 2008, 02:15:09 AM
So I am to asume that this-
Island moves and.....
beachcraft slams into a tree killing Yemi somewhere off Africa
Henry Gale's ballon is drifting along and "blam!"
French scientist freighter floats along and "crash!" into the island

If you are kind of saying this then either 815 ran into the island on accident or the island popped up under them and caused them to crash.

Pilot said they were off 1,000 miles
Des said it's because he didn't push the button

Theories?
I don't think all of the crashes were because of the moving island. I think I can only attribute the Black Rock to the moving island. I also think that the Beechcraft MAY have crashed on the island when it was in a previous location.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on June 05, 2008, 02:46:11 PM
Agree that the Black Rock was probably floating along and "POP" up came the island.
Everyone else found it by accident floating thru the "dome" or pulled my the magnetism of the island.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostinAlaska on June 05, 2008, 03:22:53 PM
So I am to asume that this-
Island moves and.....
beachcraft slams into a tree killing Yemi somewhere off Africa
Henry Gale's ballon is drifting along and "blam!"
French scientist freighter floats along and "crash!" into the island

If you are kind of saying this then either 815 ran into the island on accident or the island popped up under them and caused them to crash.

Pilot said they were off 1,000 miles
Des said it's because he didn't push the button

Theories?

That's all very mind blowing! I never thought of the island appearing out of nowhere in order to make some of those things happen. And the random foot statue? It almost makes my head hurt thinking about this!
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostAndSeek on June 05, 2008, 04:58:23 PM
I agree with JB. Blackrock may have been caught during a move. The plane probably crashed while the Island was in a previous location. Then later it moved to the South Pacific.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: PrincessLeia on July 03, 2008, 05:28:48 AM
I agree.  With LAndS, JB, & L-N-D.

You guys are all saying the same thing, right? ??? :-\ :)
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: T Mack on December 28, 2008, 01:32:28 AM
Makes good sence, but how would a polar bear know when exactly to push the wheel?

I had to laugh at this. Only in the world of Lost would we say a polar bear pushing a wheel to make an Island move in time and space makes sense.  ;D
Not only that, but it has to be one of the worst speculative Lost theories ever.  First of all, it was only 'half a donkey wheel', not a full wheel around, so there would be nowhere for the polar bears to 'pull' it to.  It could only be pushed by someone with arms and a human intelligence, because you would have to have leverage from the front of the wheel, not from the back, which a bear could only do.  A bear could not 'push' the wheel, only it pull it around, and the wheel did not go all the way around.  It was only half a wheel.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: PrincessLeia on December 28, 2008, 04:14:51 PM
Hey- they were smarter than Sawyer in the cages! ;D  jk


Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: captaintau on March 23, 2009, 03:49:39 PM
Makes good sence, but how would a polar bear know when exactly to push the wheel?

I had to laugh at this. Only in the world of Lost would we say a polar bear pushing a wheel to make an Island move in time and space makes sense.  ;D
Not only that, but it has to be one of the worst speculative Lost theories ever.  First of all, it was only 'half a donkey wheel', not a full wheel around, so there would be nowhere for the polar bears to 'pull' it to.  It could only be pushed by someone with arms and a human intelligence, because you would have to have leverage from the front of the wheel, not from the back, which a bear could only do.  A bear could not 'push' the wheel, only it pull it around, and the wheel did not go all the way around.  It was only half a wheel.  Sheesh.

But we've seen the orchid under construction. Surely it wasn't always as we see now... then.... whenever. It all makes so much sense.
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: MangoBingo on March 23, 2009, 05:33:45 PM
I love it when threads reappear after a year.  :)
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostinAlaska on March 25, 2009, 06:07:08 AM
I love it when threads reappear after a year.  :)

I thought we were gonna thread hang Justin!? What happened to this idea!!?? I never see you on here  :-[ Boooo!
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: MangoBingo on March 25, 2009, 06:13:17 PM
I love it when threads reappear after a year.  :)

I thought we were gonna thread hang Justin!? What happened to this idea!!?? I never see you on here  :-[ Boooo!

It's the rotten time zones! Today is nearly over here already and I think it's only four in the afternoon for you at the minute.  :(
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostinLock on March 28, 2009, 09:27:35 AM
I love it when threads reappear after a year.  :)

Make you feel all warm and fuzzy!!! Hold on there is some white fur on your shoulder ;)
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 29, 2009, 02:06:40 PM
We went to a wildlife museum yesterday where there were black, polar, & grizzly bears stuffed & on display.  As I was telling the kids where each of the bears could naturally be found, I had to bite my tongue & resist referencing "the Island" & Tunisia. ;D
Title: Re: Polar Bear Thoughts
Post by: LostinLock on March 29, 2009, 05:23:14 PM
ROFLMAO, well you could have said and in this tv show they were found! 

But naturually that is not the natural habitat