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Title: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: solost on April 30, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
In season 1 when Rousseau captures Sayid, she finds the picture of Nadia that Sayid had on him. She asks who the girl in the picture is. Sayid says it's my girl friend, she is dead because of me. I killed her. Am I misunderstanding some thing here? Wasn't the reason Sayid was on 815 was so he could get to L.A. to find Nadia? The CIA agent said they knew where she was and they would tell him after he helped them? Now we see Sayid at Nadia's funeral. WHATS UP WITH THIS?
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: jugdish on April 30, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
He lied to Danielle for sympathy. Got off the island found Nadia and married her. She was then killed.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: solost on April 30, 2008, 05:12:57 PM
He lied to Danielle for sympathy. Got off the island found Nadia and married her. She was then killed.
YO.......TANKS!!!
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: T Mack on April 30, 2008, 05:35:48 PM
He thought she was dead, but wasn't.  Later found out she was hiding out in L.A. from the CIA officer in Australia.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: LostAndSeek on April 30, 2008, 06:12:52 PM
Right, but he found that out before leaving on 815.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: LostinLock on April 30, 2008, 08:36:52 PM
Yeah, he was using sympathy .... Plus he was well trained
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: Tigre on May 01, 2008, 09:35:45 AM
But why was she murdered???
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: solost on May 01, 2008, 11:36:29 AM
But why was she murdered???

I think Ben killed Nadia. What does he always say "I find out what a person is emotionally invested in and I exploit it". Sayid is invested in Nadia, Ben needs a HIT MAN, Ben kills Nadia and makes Sayid think it was a Widmore bad guy. What do you think about that? 
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: Gizmogrl83 on May 01, 2008, 12:23:56 PM
But why was she murdered???

I think Ben killed Nadia. What does he always say "I find out what a person is emotionally invested in and I exploit it". Sayid is invested in Nadia, Ben needs a HIT MAN, Ben kills Nadia and makes Sayid think it was a Widmore bad guy. What do you think about that? 

I have thought about this many times, but as much as Ben lies and cheats his way towards whatever his goal is I just for some reason don't see him as the total bad guy.  I am just naiive though  ;)
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: solost on May 01, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
But why was she murdered???

I think Ben killed Nadia. What does he always say "I find out what a person is emotionally invested in and I exploit it". Sayid is invested in Nadia, Ben needs a HIT MAN, Ben kills Nadia and makes Sayid think it was a Widmore bad guy. What do you think about that? 

I have thought about this many times, but as much as Ben lies and cheats his way towards whatever his goal is I just for some reason don't see him as the total bad guy.  I am just naiive though  ;)
Your not being naive. Ben doesn't have any solders/hit man left. Tom is dead Picket is dead Ryan is dead and most of Ryan's people are dead. Even Isabell is dead. I just think he needs someone to do his killing for him. Don't forget the RULES have changed.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: T Mack on May 01, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
He thought she was dead, but wasn't.  Later found out she was hiding out in L.A. from the CIA officer in Australia.
Just one day earlier.  But yes correct.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: laklost on May 01, 2008, 04:56:43 PM
The saddest thing is that I think we lost the Nadia/Sayid reunion story.  I bet that fell on the floor when we lost two eps this season.  :'(
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: solost on May 01, 2008, 05:11:50 PM
The saddest thing is that I think we lost the Nadia/Sayid reunion story.  I bet that fell on the floor when we lost two eps this season.  :'(
I hope not.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 01, 2008, 05:42:44 PM
I kinda think it was a victim of the writers' strike as well. Consider the original word on this epi was that it was titled "Bakir" and Sayid centric. Methinks two epis were condensed to one.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: laklost on May 01, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
I kinda think it was a victim of the writers' strike as well. Consider the original word on this epi was that it was titled "Bakir" and Sayid centric. Methinks two epis were condensed to one.

I can't believe we lost this.  I have been waiting for the moment Sayid saw her agaain, and to think all we got was, "I found her, married her, and she died" just stinks.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on May 03, 2008, 02:00:31 AM
Personally, I'm kinda pissed that we totally got shortchanged on this story.  Nadia moved to Irvine, CA, to work for a "medical research foundation" and Locke was the pest inspector for her newly purchased home.  Irvine is right next to Locke's home city of Tustin, CA.  The whole scenario was set up for us to see Nadia again, particularly after we saw her in I think "Greatest Hits" where Charlie saves her from being mugged in the alley.  Or was that in "Flashes Before Your Eyes" and it was Desmond who saved her?  Nonetheless, she continued to appear in various episodes leading up to what I think was supposed to be a great reunification with Sayid.  I always thought she ended up working for Dharma.

We definitely got short-changed on this story and it pisses me off.

Nadia Cheers
*Des8
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on May 03, 2008, 03:46:47 AM
Maybe when they release the dvd set for this season there will be more bonus discs and we'll learn what might have been if not for the strike.  I hope they fill in the blanks.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: LostAndSeek on May 03, 2008, 10:02:38 AM
I agree being shortchanged sucks. Des, it was Charlie in Greatest Hits.
Title: Re: I THOUGHT NADIA WAS ALREADY DEAD
Post by: laklost on May 03, 2008, 01:51:48 PM
There will not be extended scenes or episodes.  The production logistics on this show are as big as some feature length films.


I keep wondering if after the canon of shows is done in 2010 how long ABC will let the licensing go and to what extent.  Will there be books?  Internet graphic novels - like NBC has done with Heroes?  Then all the stories we're interested in can be written.  The whole story will not be told in the episodes left.  Only enough to solve the over-riding conflict - that of Ben against the island and the island calling the Losties.