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Title: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: catchit on February 11, 2008, 05:46:35 AM
I found this on the Oceanic Air website...

http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/207.htm (http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/207.htm)

there is a notepad with among other things that says:

6? H, J, J, K, S, S
JL = D? (followed by something i cannot read)

We know that Hurley, Jack and Kate made it off the island. Who could the other 3 be?? James (Sawyer) or Jin,  Sun and Sayid.

and could JL=D? mean, John Locke is Dead?

there is also a number on here (which i Googled...and it comes up as Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution)

Just thought this was and interesting website
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Blackrock Bob on February 11, 2008, 10:17:01 AM
I think you found something. It would be a huge spoiler if John Locke is really dead. It would make sense if he was in the casket. I would say Jin and not James, because I don't want to see Sun and her baby separated. I like Jin and he'd do anything to stay with Sun and the baby. Of course he would let Sun go to save her and the baby.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: catchit on February 11, 2008, 03:09:36 PM
I was searching around more this morning and found evidence that JL is John Lantham.   The dude Jack was crying over last season.  Who is this Guy??  and the Lone Gunman or LOST gunman?? 
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: pauinha6 on February 11, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
 there is a thread about the oceanic 6 on the spoiler section that includes their names!

If John Locke was in teh casket that means he had to be an O6!

since we ARE in a spoiler thread, here are the O6:

O6
Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid ( well see that in the next episode, 4x03, a Sayid centric)
Jin
Sun (she apparently WILL have her baby in an hospital)

Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Blackrock Bob on February 11, 2008, 06:06:14 PM
there is a thread about the oceanic 6 on the spoiler section that includes their names!

If John Locke was in teh casket that means he had to be an O6!

since we ARE in a spoiler thread, here are the O6:


Who else would Jack be upset about and not Kate? I don't think she hates that many people that Jack would cry so much over. Someone they both know. It doesn't have to be an O6 person.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: LostAndSeek on February 11, 2008, 06:52:33 PM
Jack's drugged out. He'd cry over spilt vodka.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Blackrock Bob on February 11, 2008, 09:33:11 PM
Jack's drugged out. He'd cry over spilt vodka.

I stand corrected. Jack cries when he is on the island, or in a flashback, he cries all the time.
It could have been the guy that bought Jack a drink when he came back, for all we know.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: malihoy on February 12, 2008, 12:12:05 AM
If  Claire and the baby don't get on the helicopter, how is that going to affect Desmond/hurley/Claire/ ? Then in their eyes Charlie died for nothing. I am excited to see if they play that out since Hurley is seeing Charlie now. I kinda was assuming Claire would get off. That is what you get for assuming.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: CurtYanko on February 12, 2008, 11:01:55 AM
If  Claire and the baby don't get on the helicopter, how is that going to affect Desmond/hurley/Claire/ ? Then in their eyes Charlie died for nothing. I am excited to see if they play that out since Hurley is seeing Charlie now. I kinda was assuming Claire would get off. That is what you get for assuming.

I've asked this myself but it may be we have a myoptic view of this. The 6 who do get off may be for the wrong reasons (hence the island calling them back) and t will still all lead to Claire getting off in the end. Sometimes to go forward you have to take a step backwards and have a strategic view.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on February 12, 2008, 06:58:46 PM
Claire and aaron will get on the helicopter on the last trip to the boat and it will crash.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Asmodean on February 12, 2008, 08:53:46 PM
Back that url for oceanic to the original...http://oceanicworldairlines.com/ and hit enter.
A page for Farady Electric will momentarily come up.  It has a name and a number (207 area code) and a symbol that looks like the one from Heroes.
Hit control/print screen as soon as it loads.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: pauinha6 on February 12, 2008, 08:56:20 PM
there is a thread about the oceanic 6 on the spoiler section that includes their names!

If John Locke was in teh casket that means he had to be an O6!

since we ARE in a spoiler thread, here are the O6:


Who else would Jack be upset about and not Kate? I don't think she hates that many people that Jack would cry so much over. Someone they both know. It doesn't have to be an O6 person.

 somehow, after reading some painfull epi 3 spoilers i'm begining to think it's
Spoiler
Sayid.....
on the casket i mean!

it's not a real spoiler, just mho... but since it .. appeared on my mind after reading a spoiler.... i used the spoiler button.... i don't wanna spoil anyone.... ;)
And yeah, Jack was too drugged up and loonie, he'd cry over spoiled milk till he realized it wasn't vodka :D
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Kettlebelly on February 14, 2008, 05:02:37 PM
Actually, if you go to the link mentioned above,   http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/  and slide your cursor over the X's, there are a multitude of URL's to visit, with other URL's inside of those.  If I weren't at work I could play all day.  Tell me what you find!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Gordon Shumway on February 14, 2008, 07:22:00 PM
Actually, if you go to the link mentioned above,   http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/  and slide your cursor over the X's, there are a multitude of URL's to visit, with other URL's inside of those.  If I weren't at work I could play all day.  Tell me what you find!


This is a fascinating part of the web site.  For example, there's a myspace account for John Lantham Jr.  It will take someone a long time to click everywhere and post.  I think there's some good info out there if its reliable.  Is this the site from the alternate reality game earlier in the year?
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Gordon Shumway on February 14, 2008, 07:28:10 PM
and I think alvar hanso is in the cabin...http://thehansofoundation.org/
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: nikarro on February 20, 2008, 10:03:36 AM
What the heck?   Has anyone seen the BUG on the website and you click on it and it shows a squashed bug and someone wrote about it being the first one found?
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: nikarro on February 20, 2008, 10:04:21 AM
Jack's drugged out. He'd cry over spilt vodka.

Last week I was eating reese cups and dropped one.....I almost cried, and since then I have been growing a beard, Jack is effecting me!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Asmodean on February 20, 2008, 07:01:35 PM
5 second rule brother!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:15:01 PM
can you make out the audio on the hanso website?  it sounds like "humanity needs me know more than ever..." something about I will...fight? I'm not sure.  and can we start up a thread on that oceanic thing?  that is killer!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
This is from the link i followed, thanks 100% asmodean and kettlebelly!
I went to the link they provided, and by clicking on one of Monday's flights, you get a dharma swan station like pop up.  I entered the LOST numbers and hit execute before the countdown ran out, but it didn't work.  when i clicked 'reset' this image popped up:
(http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/sl9/gif/bolide1.gif)
It is titled 'bolide' which is a meteoroid, and says the source is from nasa.gov.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:26:20 PM
Ok. onto tuesday's flights...
There are two that are links, the first taking you to a wikisource page on "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" which is a book Saywer (i think) was reading.  The book is pretty much all taking place in this guy's head, who we come to find out is moments before real-life death off of the bridge.
The second link goes to this:
(http://oceanicworldair.com/cw.jpg)
This is a crossword that Locke was working on.  The answer of the question is "Gilgamesh" but if you answered all the other questions to fill in the blanks, the answer would become "scripture"
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:33:41 PM
wednesday's flight schedule:
link takes you to http://aralai.com/faith/ with a nice little quote.  And according to pagesource, i believe the image is titles "windrose"  and when you click that you are asked to enter a name and password for the site (which i don't know)  Aralai seems to be the company in charge of this little game we are playing, but i can't get any real info on that.
and another one (sorry for the size!)
(http://oceanicworldair.com/wilson9mz2.gif)
The most interesting here, to me, is the "other" that is underlined in red.  Sounds like they are referring to another plane that crashed but only had 42,000 hours of total flying time?  figure that one out!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: uofapiglet on February 22, 2008, 02:52:49 PM
Oh my gosh, what a great find!!!!!! I'm so excited to play virtual detective!

Anyway, does that say "exhumation" next to JL = D?

And if it does mean John Locke = Deceased then what's with the "exhumation"?

Wow, I love the internet sometimes! The one time the word "viral" can be ok (sometimes)!
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Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:54:27 PM
thursday:
http://global-welfare-consortium.com/
The Global Welfare Consortium was established in 1952 in Geneva, Switzerland to respond to the needs of an increasing global society.

Fighting diseases such as SARS, AIDS and Avian Influenza in over 180 member nations, our mission is to bring the citizens of the world to the maximum level of wellness.

GWC currently operates 8 regional offices and 150 country offices prepared to react quickly to global health issues.

and then another link to http://lewiskinglaboratories.com/  tried to contact them but the email didn't go through.  Seems like they deal with drugs?  FDA?  Dosage methods?

Another link: http://alliedcopenhagenmarinemerchants.com/ ACMM (from what i remember of TLE) is what Magnus Hanso's company became.  It seems like you can access the GPS position of vessels, but again, a password is required.  There is a public access ship log, though.  Seems like the Helgus Antonius of TLE fame was in the northern part of norway in May of 2004, and then in Dubai mid-August.  Lots of other ships listed, too, and some of the locations come up that we have seen throughout lost and TLE.

Then there is a VERY interesting link to John Lantham's son, (JL being the one from the obit).  He has a little movie, and there are various vans, wiki pages, and whatnots that appear.  I went to the hydra wiki page he showed, and looked at the text Jr. had highlighted: Hydras appear to be unique among animals in that they do not undergo senescence (aging).  It seems like i  could browse this myspace page for hours!  One of his friends looks like an oceanic employee named Miri, which appears on a notepad in another link.

Thursday is full of links!  Another one goes to http://globegps.com/

Yet another link: http://healthwayalliance.com/  seemed pretty boring until i read the activities part...seems this company is working on vaccines with lewis king labratories (from earlier link) and building a new center in brazil with GWC (global welfare consortium) another link.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
Now to friday (sorry uofapiglet for interupting!)
(http://globespotter.com/science/one.jpg)
I'll let the wiser ones figure that out....
BUT OMG if you look carefully the background of that image is the BLAST DOOR MAP!!!

then there is this image- if anyone spots something don't hide it!
(http://oceanicworldair.com/memo.jpg)
note that the signature "PK" at the bottom of the memo appears again, in one of the last links.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
then saturday brings us this image titles "onthesoul"
(http://oceanicworldair.com/OnTheSoul.jpg)
On The Soul is a book by Aristotle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_soul
also appears to be a face in the lower left hand corner?
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 03:05:40 PM
another link takes you to http://thehansofoundation.org/ and i swear i remember something about if you click on the 5th word "____" it takes you to another site, and i thought i heard a voice in the background saying 'humanity needs me more that ever' or something. and holy crap talk about htings that make you jump... i just began clicking all over the page, and i dont know if it was on a timer or what, but the page flashed and mittlewerk came up.  what he is saying is
you've taken a batlte but thats all it was a battle
humainty needs me now more than ever
i have the virus i have the will and i will not fail

oooooh!

the last saturday link prompts you to email Miri Nivokov, which i will attempt now and let you all know how it goes!
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Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
Ok.  the prompt takes you to email her at "miri.novikov@..." and the ... isn't anything.  but it looks like she works for oceanic because of John Lantham Jr.'s site, so i put the address as "miri.novikov@oceanicairlines.com" so we'll see what happens.

the only sunday links you to another picture:
(http://www.oceanicworldair.com/OWA_TRANSFER_MEMO.jpg)
titled OWA TRANSFER MEMO and i can't make out much...but it looks like King (Cross?) State Police Department
and i like the 'kurtz' part too!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 03:26:24 PM
This is one of the friends listed on John Lantham Jr.'s myspace: http://thelostgunmen.blogspot.com/
I guess John thinks that the lost gunmen used to be the lone gunmen, someone who has possibly tied to his father's death?  I don't know, as the myspace accounts haven't been updated in a while...
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Post by: Gordon Shumway on February 22, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
Thanks for taking the time DMM.  You can find more by clicking on the flight numbers.  I think one of them mentions another plane crash.  The plane was empty and flying from SYD to LAX when it crashed with 4 crew.  I'm at work and can't do the research now.

Gord
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 04:30:53 PM
Another plane crash, eh?  Could that be the one that was mentioned in the memo?  With 42,000 hours in?
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Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 04:32:33 PM
And WOW i just noticed all those other ones!  Thanks!  I have to run to work in a few minutes, but when I get off I will try to do a few more updates....who started this thread?  am i stepping on your toes?!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on February 22, 2008, 07:48:25 PM
oh...lostpedia says that this is a hoax site.  darn it!
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Asmodean on February 22, 2008, 08:29:19 PM
Wonder who they got the map from and if it was for the Blackrock?  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Gordon Shumway on February 22, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
Wel the 2nd flight make sense.  That is the one at the bottom of the trench.  Oh well....guess we'll have to wait another 44 episodes.
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Post by: Asmodean on February 27, 2008, 11:36:15 AM
I'm begininning to think everything OFF island is a duplicate.  People, planes, etc.
And they should not come into contact with one another.
The casimir effect as mentioned in the Orchid video.
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Blackrock Bob on February 27, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
I'm begininning to think everything OFF island is a duplicate.  People, planes, etc.
And they should not come into contact with one another.
The casimir effect as mentioned in the Orchid video.

That is an interesting theory and I would like you to write more about it. I don't agree with it right now, but with more explanation I might change my mind.

I think the Orchid will play a part, I can't see duplicates running around.
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Post by: Asmodean on February 27, 2008, 11:53:31 AM
It just seems awful strange when they all freaked out when bunny 15 showed up from...?
The writer's thought it important enough to show at comicon.
Another plane.  The letter (posted above) with 2 different times of hours flown.
I'm still thinking it thru and need to check some things on lostpedia, but I'll toss out some more so we can discuss.
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Post by: goober on February 27, 2008, 12:12:19 PM
One of the links goes to "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge"

Wouldn't it be a real bitch if we arrived at the end of Lost only to find out that all of this happened during the last dying moments of one of the characters... like Walt maybe ???
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Post by: Asmodean on February 27, 2008, 12:17:44 PM
That'd be a let down.
Like Bobby Ewing in the shower (if you're old enough to remember).
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Post by: goober on February 27, 2008, 12:19:40 PM
DALLAS. Hated that show.
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Post by: Staggerlee on February 27, 2008, 11:19:15 PM
Found this when you go to this address (linked previously here) http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/

delete the /2008/ and this page flashes for just a second...........before another page loads...

interesting...(http://)


Cannot seem to attach the screen shot i took of the page....looks like a business card

It says:   Faraday Electric  "Power for your life"
              Ray Fiegler
               tel: 207:555-0815

will try to link it:

which did not work, why is this??????


here is a link to it posted on my blogger:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_ysl9Jk-EEMY/R8YoBBX1WcI/AAAAAAAAAEE/sRKTnm6aRGc/s1600-h/Pi2.jpg


is that the Heroes squigley Logo there??????
Title: Re: I think i found The Oceanic 6? *****SPOILERS
Post by: Jungle Otter on February 28, 2008, 11:14:24 AM


I think the Orchid will play a part, I can't see duplicates running around.

Remember Gary Troup's book - Bad Twin. Perhaps there are duplicates but we haven't see the effect yet where the duplication takes place......and although there is discrepancies (ie: the wedding ring) one could say that the "fake" 815 contains duplicates of everyone on the island. They just aren't very talkative  ;)
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Post by: Asmodean on February 28, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
That's good too.
So Ben, in the future, is off island correcting mistakes made by Dharma/Hanso.  That pic above, in this thread, showing current time with cones of the past & future all tied together is perfect in it's simplicity.  Add that to an island with the right magnetic anomaly and you've got Tesla salad.
Don't put the dupes together.  It's like crossing the streams.  It would be bad.
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Post by: b3nj4m1n on March 08, 2008, 06:12:12 PM
The site referenced at the beginning of this thread http://oceanicworldairlines.com/2008/207.htm has a book part way in the picture.  The book is "The Crying Lot of 49" by Thomas Pynchon.  It is about a worldwide conspiracy and conflict between to mail carrier companies.  The description can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crying_of_Lot_49