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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 3 => Episode 3x21 => Topic started by: puff6962 on May 18, 2007, 08:08:59 PM

Title: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: puff6962 on May 18, 2007, 08:08:59 PM
A nice piece of dialogue with the two on the boat, and very decent of old Desmond to offer his life rather than Charlie's, but there was no indication that Desmond would not have acquiesced if Charlie was determined to go himself.  Why hit poor Desmond? 

It was, to me, reminiscent of Desmond's bar scene in his flashback/realback.  He gets bonked and returns from London back onto the island nude.  My question is whether Desmond experienced another flashback/realback with this bonk?
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: JMart on May 18, 2007, 08:21:59 PM
probably knocked all his powers away!! :(
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Sunflower on May 18, 2007, 08:55:19 PM
Because Charlay is jealous of Des's good looks!

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Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: joshzam on May 18, 2007, 09:19:44 PM
I thought the same thing: that was totally unnecessary. One could argue that knocking poor Desmond unconscious is the only way to absolutely guarantee no interference in Charlie's plan to save Claire and Aaron from the Island, but that would be a weak argument.
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: kkehoe5 on May 18, 2007, 09:29:03 PM
To give Des enough time for Charlie to get captured and for Des to come to the rescue as seen in Des' flashes. Des saw it all, and only told charlie the parts he needed to hear to do the job.
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: SQUIRT199 on May 18, 2007, 09:51:28 PM
To give Des enough time for Charlie to get captured and for Des to come to the rescue as seen in Des' flashes. Des saw it all, and only told charlie the parts he needed to hear to do the job.

Interesting, You think Desmond knew he was gonna get bonked with an oar? If I knew something like that was gonna happen I would certainly try to avoid it.
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: puff6962 on May 18, 2007, 10:44:26 PM
I hope that Desmond did take a little alternative reality trip.....that was one of the best episodes of the season.  I wondered after this escapade why Desmond could not visit a future reality as well.  (See unifying theory.....If quantum branches representing different realities exist beside our own, why couldn't one be the future?)

I have often wondered if portions of Locke's flashbacks represent derivations of his possible pasts and/or possible futures.  I guess the latter would represent flashforwards.....but Desmond would be the best character to explore a possible future.
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Tech-in on May 19, 2007, 07:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rabbit_Hole
To give Des enough time for Charlie to get captured and for Des to come to the rescue as seen in Des' flashes. Des saw it all, and only told charlie the parts he needed to hear to do the job.

Yes.. I am pretty sure about Des knows everything (including SMACK).. He just did what he saw.. Also I am sure that he will go after Charlie and will finish the job (smacking gave him enough time)
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: ChellyKins on May 19, 2007, 07:49:38 PM
When they were out there and Des offered to take Charlie's place, it ran thru my mind momentarily that Des knew something else was going on..but I dismissed it and tried to focus on the reality that they were setting up Charlie's death scene and I should be appreciative of it. Reflect and grief mode LOL

I agree that Des had knowledge of it all and it's all a big plan that is going to work out in the end.


Now if I could just
Spoiler
figure out how they have Mikhail blowing the place up??
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2007, 01:22:34 PM
Maybe Des realized that by sacrificing himself for the other at the hatch he came out of it with precognition.  So maybe by sacrificing himself for CHARLAY he will get something else out of it  ???
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: ChellyKins on May 20, 2007, 06:29:44 PM
Do you really think that it would've been Penny that parachuted in if Charlie had died? Just asking. I don't know if it was discussed in that epi's thread.

I think our man Desmond is withholding information so that the vision turns out the way it should. Maybe they both died in his vision and that's all he could tell ChaLay so he would go too. Nothing changed in the vision to reality  :-\ maybe?
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
It is ChaLay isn't it..no r..hmmmm I've been saying CharLay...feeling sheepish :-[

It's possible he is withholding information...definetely..don't think Penny would go parachuting tho...she has others do her work and she pays them
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: ChellyKins on May 20, 2007, 06:37:50 PM
It is ChaLay isn't it..no r..hmmmm I've been saying CharLay...feeling sheepish :-[

It's possible he is withholding information...definetely..don't think Penny would go parachuting tho...she has others do her work and she pays them


I am not spellchecking you, I promise. lol I'm just hearing it run thru my head over and over and over.

So what the heck changed because Charlie stayed alive?
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Sunflower on May 20, 2007, 11:22:46 PM
Will we ever know?  ???
Title: Re: Why Did Charlie Smack Desmond?
Post by: Maddog13 on May 28, 2007, 09:14:25 AM
Could Desmond have gone back in time when he was hit with the paddle?? It was similar to when he got hit with the cricket bat??