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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 3 => Episode 3x16 => Topic started by: LOST N LOST on April 12, 2007, 12:28:52 AM

Title: Who else is on the island?
Post by: LOST N LOST on April 12, 2007, 12:28:52 AM
so why is it that mikhal shoots anyone that comes near his station? The losties have not moved off the beach and had just crashed. surely he is not afriad of them so soon, and ben seems to have need to give mikhal clear warning that it is him comming. Is this proof of a third group, or his mikhal just crazy?

I think that this was added in to show that there are other people the others know about. Cause he talks about how mikhal never answers his walkie. I dont know it seemed to me that there was emphisise on the hole scene. What do you guys think?
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Post by: jugdish on April 12, 2007, 12:30:43 AM
I think Mikhail is just jumpy. He was banished to the flame to be by himself.
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Post by: cannonball java on April 12, 2007, 12:33:29 AM
You have a point, but my money is Mikhal is one crazy comrade.
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Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on April 12, 2007, 01:08:15 AM
I think he is delusional.  That is why he is kept separate from the others, and why he wears that Dharma uniform for no reason.
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Post by: this is some crazy stuff on April 12, 2007, 01:50:45 AM
I agree because Ben also says sometime during the show that we have knew people to infultrate or something to that effect.
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Post by: Point Place WI on April 12, 2007, 01:52:23 AM
What about Bea Klue.........she was down with him!  Maybe some sweet lovin
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Post by: lostatsea on April 12, 2007, 07:30:15 AM
I use to work with a guy like him, and yeah its best to leave those guys out 'there' by themselves.
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Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on April 12, 2007, 07:57:01 AM
Never trust a man with a scruffy beard and an eye patch.
Personal mantra of mine.
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Post by: Nancy Drew on April 12, 2007, 08:12:24 AM
With that description you'd think he was a pirate!!  I wouldn't trust him either.  He seems a little off his rocker!  Yet, he knew Ben would be coming for info on the plane crash survivors and he was already on it.  Sharp but crazy! 




And can I just say, Point Place...............EWW!!
Title: Re: Who else is on the island?
Post by: Ladybug on April 13, 2007, 10:24:11 AM
I think Mikhail is just jumpy. He was banished to the flame to be by himself.
YAY!!! juggy agrees with me.

have you been reading my mind again? ;)
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Post by: bayrodney on April 13, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
Well Danielle's crew were around then, Henry's Hot Air Balloon, and Yemi's plane crashed on the island.
I guess anything that loses control around that area is magnetised towards the island.
Maybe there has been plenty of crashes on the Island, and usually many survivors (due to the whole 'curing' thing on the island). Possibly Mikhail is jumpy of anyone 'foreign' to the island finding things they're not supposed to
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Post by: lostandfree on April 14, 2007, 12:40:44 AM
I think that Mikhail is just a little crazy.  It was the tone in Ben's voice when he said, "don't shoot us."  Like he knows Mikhail is nuts.
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Post by: JBRam on April 14, 2007, 12:48:08 AM
I think that Mikhail is just a little crazy.  It was the tone in Ben's voice when he said, "don't shoot us."  Like he knows Mikhail is nuts.
Quite possible... He's stuck staring at monitors all day... plus he wears that Dharma outfit...
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Post by: LouE68 on April 14, 2007, 01:02:51 AM
Also, Ben made a comment about the plane crash and maybe having survivors to infiltrate...what struck me how he said it, was as if he was used to or it had happened before that groups of people were on the island (besides Dharma personnel)maybe I'm reading into it too much...

But Patchy? I think he's just jumpy...he likes being alone, he likes gathering info since it rarely happens, but it happens.
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Post by: puff6962 on April 14, 2007, 06:39:02 PM
There are at least two groups of others (Goodwin killed one from the other group in the other 47 days) and Mikail is neutral.
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Post by: E.S.B. on April 14, 2007, 09:54:11 PM
I don't think the guy Goodwin killed was another Other.  I think he killed him because Ana Lucia suspected that guy was the infiltrator and Goodwin wanted Ana and everyone to think that the infiltrator had escaped and was gone.
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Post by: joshzam on April 14, 2007, 10:20:18 PM
Well Danielle's crew were around then, Henry's Hot Air Balloon, and Yemi's plane crashed on the island.
I guess anything that loses control around that area is magnetised towards the island.
Maybe there has been plenty of crashes on the Island, and usually many survivors (due to the whole 'curing' thing on the island). Possibly Mikhail is jumpy of anyone 'foreign' to the island finding things they're not supposed to

Don't forget about poor old Emilia Earhart and her navigator. Looks like they might have crashed on this island, as well. Can anyone say "Adam and Eve"?
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Post by: nikarro on April 15, 2007, 01:36:15 AM
Hey okay, how about this....The purge was a fight between the Others and Dharma, Patchy talks about this and talks about how he remained neutral...Maybe he was really part of Dharma, maybe they hired him to give them some fight power since they were all dorky scientists, and when he stayed neutral, the Others took him in because of his SEEMING smarts...
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Post by: PrincessLeia on April 15, 2007, 02:28:15 AM
Well Danielle's crew were around then, Henry's Hot Air Balloon, and Yemi's plane crashed on the island.
I guess anything that loses control around that area is magnetised towards the island.
Maybe there has been plenty of crashes on the Island, and usually many survivors (due to the whole 'curing' thing on the island). Possibly Mikhail is jumpy of anyone 'foreign' to the island finding things they're not supposed to
Kelvin (till this day) & Des were around also.
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Post by: jugdish on April 15, 2007, 02:30:18 AM
Sorry but Kelvin's dead :'(
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Post by: PrincessLeia on April 15, 2007, 02:31:52 AM
Sorry but Kelvin's dead :'(
I know.  lol  But it was plane crash day, so Patchy & the other Others may have not known that yet.
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Post by: DIZZYBECKSTER on April 17, 2007, 09:51:33 AM
I'm married to a full time geek - who has little or no concept of the world around him, and given the opportunity he would wear the same 'comfy and non restrictive' Joggies and a t-shirt (jumpsuit) rather than having to decide that to wear each day. He would gladly ignore/block out the bickering and bantering of the family (the war between Dharma and others) and let us just get on with it. He has tunnel vision when it comes to his 'puter and gets such a buzz when something technical needs attending to in the house (research the people on the plane and give ne answers now...)

So I reckon Mikhail is a geniune geek. Loves his job, get annoyed by the Others but still 'works' for DI because it is something he believes in. I can relate completely to Mikhail, and will double check for rifle barrels sticking out of the kitchen window when I get home tonight..... ::)
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Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on April 17, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
I am going to agree with there being 3 groups of people on the island. What I am tying to figure out is if Rousso may actually be DHARMA? Look at her clothing that she has been wearing since we first met her. Look at what Danielle had in her little shack. plus not to mention the location of her shack. When the purge happened maybe Danielle killed all her fellow "Scientists" because they were aganist DHARMA and for the "Others".
I would have to esp. beleive that yes after many years that there would be other crash survivors on the island or possibly test experiment runaways.
I have a sneaky feeling though that Danellie will show to be more than a "Scientist" and that there will be DHARMA Military coming to the island.

For a "Scientist" Danielle sure has a lot of guns and trap making expretese.
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Post by: CurtYanko on April 17, 2007, 02:28:29 PM
There is a crazy french woman with a rifle!
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Post by: rhythm on April 17, 2007, 02:59:21 PM
What about the whisperers?  Are they a totally different group than "The Others"?

Side note:I thought the person who Goodwin killed was on 815...
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Post by: PrincessLeia on April 17, 2007, 03:00:19 PM
What about the whisperers?  Are they a totally different group than "The Others"?

Side note:I thought the person who Goodwin killed was on 815...
Ana Lucia (who killed Goodwin) was in the tail section of 815.
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Post by: rhythm on April 17, 2007, 03:23:38 PM
What about the whisperers?  Are they a totally different group than "The Others"?

Side note:I thought the person who Goodwin killed was on 815...
Ana Lucia (who killed Goodwin) was in the tail section of 815.
Sorry, I meant the person who Goodwin killed.  I thought we saw in a flashback that he was in fact on the plane.
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Post by: casino on April 17, 2007, 03:23:58 PM
I thi
What about the whisperers?  Are they a totally different group than "The Others"?

Side note:I thought the person who Goodwin killed was on 815...


I think the Whisperers are a different group.  They seem to be watching what's going on between the Others and the Losties and trying to decide if they should reveal themselves to the Losties or not.
Title: Re: Who else is on the island?
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 17, 2007, 03:37:09 PM
What about the whisperers?  Are they a totally different group than "The Others"?

Side note:I thought the person who Goodwin killed was on 815...
Ana Lucia (who killed Goodwin) was in the tail section of 815.
Sorry, I meant the person who Goodwin killed.  I thought we saw in a flashback that he was in fact on the plane.
OH!  Sorry.  lol  I misread. :D  Nathan....I do not remember seeing him in a flashback.  IMO- he was a Tailie.

I think the whispers are commentary on remote viewing through a space/ time window of sorts.
Title: Re: Who else is on the island?
Post by: LOST N LOST on April 17, 2007, 09:09:21 PM
I am going to agree with there being 3 groups of people on the island. What I am tying to figure out is if Rousso may actually be DHARMA? Look at her clothing that she has been wearing since we first met her. Look at what Danielle had in her little shack. plus not to mention the location of her shack. When the purge happened maybe Danielle killed all her fellow "Scientists" because they were aganist DHARMA and for the "Others".
I would have to esp. beleive that yes after many years that there would be other crash survivors on the island or possibly test experiment runaways.
I have a sneaky feeling though that Danellie will show to be more than a "Scientist" and that there will be DHARMA Military coming to the island.

For a "Scientist" Danielle sure has a lot of guns and trap making expretese.

Im down with Danielle being DHARMA. I was watching the frist season and she tells Sayid that she is part of a science team that came to the island. And her crew became "sick" we know there is know sickness, and that DHARMA was told to continue the story of the disease. Edmond told Des about it, and it was on the website that was up and running over the summer. I think u may be on to something that her friends turned on them. Or maybe she never did kill them? The writers said in an interview in some mag i was reading at the dentist (sorry i forget what it was, but it had jack on the cover and grabed my attention) that they cant do a danielle flashback till season 4. So something about her back story must be hidden.

and yeah... what happened to the whispers?
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Post by: Lost-N-Detroit on April 18, 2007, 01:34:59 PM
What if the "whispers" were something like in "Clash of the Titans" where it was Zeus looking down from the heavens and making comments to say Athena or another god. And the bubble is a snow globe...j/k.
Really, I do think that there is another group of people on the island and that Rousso is one of them. She has been hiding every time the Losties get near something the PTHERS are a part of. How can a scientist build traps and snares that well. The fact also that we haven't seen a Rousso flashback yet is puzzling.      ???
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Post by: puff6962 on April 18, 2007, 04:17:44 PM
The whispers have been heard in various audios (off island) since season two.  During the Man From Tallahassee, Locke's TV is seemingly playing audio from a news program, then Expose, then gunshots.... A transcript of what was said is posted on the episode forum.  The whispers extended beyond the island and I don't know where they come from.
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Post by: FrostyLosty on April 18, 2007, 05:10:43 PM
Maybe he believes/knows that there are other Dharma people alive on the island. He wears the costume to make them believe he is one of them and he's very jumpy.
Maybe he knows that the Dharma folk are ruthless and capable of anything.... he did survive the Purge.