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Title: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 05, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
What we know about the Monsta:

-doesn’t cross the fence
-appears with sounds
-can emit light
-didn’t appear until the rain stops
-left rapidly initially from Julia
-can appear as a person (Echo)
-knocks down trees
-pulled Locke a distance towards a hole
-kills by impact or multiple flesh wounds (pilot)
-able to divide and recombine
-took a hiatus
-may have been present in the scene with the spiders
-has a heavy sound similar to heavy metal being shifted, another sound emitted in regular frequency like scanning, and a woooooohhhhhh sound as well…..all mixed with some animal like sounds.  Scary
-appears to fly but does not pass over the height of the fence.
-appeared as a cerebrus while coming towards Julia
 


Please add objective, factual, items to the above with a separate paragraph devoted to speculation based upon what we have all identified....ie.  What we know divided from What we think.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on April 06, 2007, 01:04:45 AM
There is also the fact that it sucks big time at hide and seek.  Seriously, those hollow tree things that everyone finds refuge in...
Was it really knocking down trees or just moving them?  I mean, did the survivors ever find a trail of broken trees leading back to the monster's origin?  No.  The only thing I have SEEN it destroy was the ground.  When it popped out of it.  Oh, and Eko.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 06, 2007, 01:41:33 PM
I don't think that it is destroying the ground as much as it is throwing up particles of island magnetite which it then manipulates.  Otherwise, why wouldn't it just blow up those it seeks to kill?
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 06, 2007, 03:03:45 PM
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Monster

My contribution to this thread.  I see no need to re-invent the wheel. :)
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: The Professor on April 09, 2007, 02:19:09 AM
it probably pops up from from underground tunnels refered to on the blast door map

"a rabbit has more than one hole" or something like that

also about it being cerberus, you hear three distinct sounds (the roller coaster, the dinosaur like sound, and what sounds like those ghosts from mario when it is moving) so maybe there are three different monsters that can separate and recombine that all form cerberus (which would make a pretty darn good security system)

Also, it seems like it can capture memories from people's pasts (i.e. eko's memories on the frozen frames where the cam goes through the smoke on ep 2x10) so in the last episode, those flashes we saw were all probably julia's memories that it was "scanning"

as for the reason for it not being able to get into bunches of tree, it cant pop up in there because there arent tunnels under trees (cuz of roots) but no idea why it doesnt just break into the trees
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 10, 2007, 01:08:42 PM
I have long thought that the monsta was actually the flatus (gas) of the island coming to life.  That would explain a lot! 

Smokey always arrives with an explosion. 
He always appears at the wrong time. 
There's never a bathroom around when you have a smokey. 
People always seem to be eating something before it's smokey time.
You can never tell where smokey is going to float.
You never see a smokey by a woman.
Smokey can be silent but deadly.

Feel free to add to this theory.  But I think that smokey is just an island air biscuit.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 10, 2007, 07:14:42 PM
I have long thought that the monsta was actually the flatus (gas) of the island coming to life.  That would explain a lot! 

Smokey always arrives with an explosion. 
He always appears at the wrong time. 
There's never a bathroom around when you have a smokey. 
People always seem to be eating something before it's smokey time.
You can never tell where smokey is going to float.
You never see a smokey by a woman.
Smokey can be silent but deadly.

Feel free to add to this theory.  But I think that smokey is just an island air biscuit.
People try to blame Smokey on Vincent. :P


(What am I doing. ::) He's sucking me in again. lol)
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: kkehoe5 on April 15, 2007, 03:53:04 AM
I think that smokey splits up and can do things indepently. It can scan Eko or scout the losties.

But I thnik that all parts must be together to form an attack.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 15, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Nobody wants to claim a smokey.
Sometime smokey means there's a bear in the cave.
Smokey can make some wierd noises.
Sometimes you have to check your underwear after smokey appears.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: Wardroy on April 17, 2007, 09:33:34 AM
Rose said in the pilot episode that the sound reminded her of back on home, the bronx or somewhere
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 17, 2007, 08:09:16 PM
Ya, a lot of flatus in the bronx.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: Wardroy on April 18, 2007, 04:54:01 AM
what is flatus????
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: PrincessLeia on April 18, 2007, 01:26:23 PM
what is flatus????

Gas.  Puff thinks Smoky is a big fart. :-\ ::) :)
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: Wardroy on April 18, 2007, 03:03:08 PM
riiiiigghhhttt

but of who's bottom..no...let me guess...Christian right!!??!!
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: puff6962 on April 18, 2007, 03:19:10 PM
we'd better hope that the island doesn't start spewing magma....magma.  Like that word.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: misseko815 on May 09, 2007, 07:52:04 PM
Rose did say that the sound reminded her of home, but that she couldn't quite place it, and then said she was from either Brooklyn or the Bronx (gotta love the burroughs). Here's a theory: with the speculation of underground tunnels, combined with some of the metallic sounds - what if part of smokey is an underground train system that the others use to travel quickly across the island. Maybe that's how Ethan and Goodwin got to their respective spyposts so quickly. And, do we really think Benry walked all the way from Otherland? He's not the type; I doubt he walked. But maybe, he took the train! :o
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: JBRam on May 09, 2007, 07:54:28 PM
hmm...

Ben did say if he ran he could get there in an hour.

I don't think Smokie is a rail system. I don't really see how that would work out :D

Ben: Tell Tom to take the Smokie Express to the top of the green hill... I'll meet him in an hour

:D
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: misseko815 on May 09, 2007, 07:59:06 PM
Do you think that Ben walked all the way from "Otherville" to where he was "captured" by Rousseau? They were inland, I don't think he took the sub, I don't think he took the boat... so, either Tom and and Patchy carried him on their shoulders, or he walked... or he took the train.   :D All aboard! :D :D
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: JBRam on May 09, 2007, 08:02:56 PM
I think he walked. They look pretty used to walking. When they left the Tent City, everyone was all ready and in a line. It looked like they had been doing this a while.

Yeah, I think they walk. Most of them are fit, except for Tom (which baffles me).
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: misseko815 on May 09, 2007, 08:06:16 PM
Tom is pretty fluffy in the mid-section, isn't he? What do you think he's been eating on the island keeping him that way? Maybe the lost Dharma animals from the experiments?  :D Extra polar bear anyone?
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: JBRam on May 09, 2007, 08:22:37 PM
Tom is pretty fluffy in the mid-section, isn't he? What do you think he's been eating on the island keeping him that way? Maybe the lost Dharma animals from the experiments?  :D Extra polar bear anyone?
Hmm... put a little bit of white fur on him... paint his nose black... :D

I think Tom likes to sit around at home and contemplate his successes in the area of male conquest. ;D

Yes, that's a roundabout way of saying I think Tom's gay.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: misseko815 on May 09, 2007, 10:23:28 PM
[Tom is pretty fluffy in the mid-section, isn't he? What do you think he's been eating on the island keeping him that way? Maybe the lost Dharma animals from the experiments?   Extra polar bear anyone?

Hmm... put a little bit of white fur on him... paint his nose black...

I think Tom likes to sit around at home and contemplate his successes in the area of male conquest.

Yes, that's a roundabout way of saying I think Tom's gay.]

Being fluffy makes him gay?
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: JBRam on May 09, 2007, 10:29:31 PM
heh heh... no, but there are a few threads dedicated to this theory... One reason is that he didn't want to see Kate take a shower...
Title: smokey
Post by: Lost_viewer on March 18, 2008, 12:49:42 PM
Another thing I don't understand is that if smokey is composed of smoke why could he not get to Juliet and Kate when they were hiding inside that tree..or Jack and Kate when they were in the plane.
Title: Re: smokey
Post by: fieldy32 on March 18, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
Another thing I don't understand is that if smokey is composed of smoke why could he not get to Juliet and Kate when they were hiding inside that tree..or Jack and Kate when they were in the plane.
I think during the scene of Juliet and Kate in the tree, Smokey just scanned Juliets mind, like he did to Eko and Locke (or whatever the hell that flashing white light is supposed to be).  Now, the Jack and Kate scene, I'm thinking that was because the pilot was the only one of the 3 in there dumb enough to stick his head out the window, at least I think he stuck his head out the window  ??? Then after Smokey munched on the pilot, his thirst for blood was thoroughly quenched and he peaced out.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: gjohnson on March 18, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
Could there be more than one Smokie? Could they be the "original inhabitants" of the island? This thought struck me while reading the "why haven't we seen Smokie" thread. Would Ben's "I don't know" [what the smoke monster is] be an "I'm not going to tell you?" Okay, I realize this is a little out there, but just what is the smoke monster?
Title: Re: smokey
Post by: LostAndSeek on March 18, 2008, 02:02:10 PM
That bothered me too, but Smokey is solid enough to whup people around, explode out of the ground, etc. So maybe he can't easily fit into small places.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: LostAndSeek on March 18, 2008, 02:05:04 PM
All things are possible in Smokey, g. We just don't know.
Title: Re: THE MONSTER, Facts and Speculation:
Post by: relient k on March 19, 2008, 05:20:29 PM
I've speculated all i can on this stupid mysterious thing, I got nothing left...