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Title: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: jillybean4u on April 05, 2007, 12:40:36 AM
So Sawyer has the ability to lead as we saw and to repent.  However with Jack & Sayid coming back to camp next week, will there be a bit of a power struggle between the 3, especially with Juliette in tow?  All 3 have led the losties in some way.  Will Sawyer stay some what positive -- even if it's to save face with Sun?  I think this could be a turning point in Sawyer's storyline.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: JMart on April 05, 2007, 12:45:47 AM
i think that sawyer will be cool w/ jack when he returns, honestly
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: cindypooh on April 05, 2007, 12:57:47 AM
In the preview it liked like Sawyer's lips were shot out when he saw Jack come back. I think that he might be a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: puff6962 on April 05, 2007, 01:02:36 AM
I think that Sawyer will figure out how much it sucks to be in charge and have a new appreciation for Jack.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on April 05, 2007, 02:00:59 AM
I don't think Jack will be sticking around the camp for too long.  He will probably leave Sawyer at the beach again soon, he's got too many mysteries to solve!
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: mindsparkle on April 05, 2007, 04:21:58 AM
I think Sawyer will be a leader of another kind, even with Jack back

Jack's brought one of the others and is going to ask the losties to accept her... his credibility will be questioned... and Jack never wanting to be a leader will instead revert to his pouty, snappy my way or the highway routine...

I hope that Sawyer can bring a little humanity back into the equation... more so than Jack ever did...
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: Optimus J on April 05, 2007, 06:09:27 AM
I think Sawyer will be a leader of another kind, even with Jack back

Jack's brought one of the others and is going to ask the losties to accept her... his credibility will be questioned... and Jack never wanting to be a leader will instead revert to his pouty, snappy my way or the highway routine...

I hope that Sawyer can bring a little humanity back into the equation... more so than Jack ever did...
And I can't blame all the survivors WHEN (And not IF at all) they start to question Jack. Really, Others EVER lie. Isn't safe there.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: razzle-dazzle on April 05, 2007, 10:15:02 AM
Sawyer owes Jack his freedom.
Sawyer owes Juliette his freedom.
Sawyer may be conned all the time, but he isn't a fool.
He will make nice with everyone and even try to make it up to Sun.

Sawyer is growing as a person, while Jack is going backwards.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: on the island on April 05, 2007, 10:53:48 AM
I think there will be a power struggle, but not between Jack and Sawyer.  Sayid and Jack are going to go at it over Jack bringing Juliet to camp.  Sayid will rightfully question wtf Jack is doing.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: WhatThe on April 05, 2007, 11:18:25 AM
Sawyer's the only one getting sex on that damn island (Anna Lucia, Kate), so I'd be wanting him as my leader if I were there lol :)
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: surfmadpig on April 05, 2007, 12:35:32 PM
Right now, Saywer's much more to be trusted than Jack, in my opinion. Of course he was a con man, but the island's changing him. Jack has been very secretive about everything and I seriously doubt he's going to give that info away. Plus, he's taking Juliette with him to the losties camp - a grave danger imo.

I think the only good leader the losties could have is Sayid. He knows when people lie, he's decent, he's powerful.
I also don't think Sawyer would be interested in becoming the leader. Sure he is obsessed with money, but I've never seen him obsessed with power. Jack, after season 1 certainly wants to be a leader. Bleh.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: WhatThe on April 05, 2007, 12:38:36 PM
I think the only good leader the losties could have is Sayid. He knows when people lie, he's decent, he's powerful.

But he's NOT getting laid. Sorry, can't be leader if you're not gettin' any.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: casino on April 05, 2007, 12:45:29 PM
I think the only good leader the losties could have is Sayid. He knows when people lie, he's decent, he's powerful.

But he's NOT getting laid. Sorry, can't be leader if you're not gettin' any.

Tell that to Jesus :)

Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: surfmadpig on April 05, 2007, 12:46:18 PM
I think the only good leader the losties could have is Sayid. He knows when people lie, he's decent, he's powerful.

But he's NOT getting laid. Sorry, can't be leader if you're not gettin' any.

HAHAH he was going to though, with Shannon (or did they get it on anyway?).
Anyway, you convinced me. I'm voting for Sawyer.  ;D
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: casino on April 05, 2007, 12:48:56 PM
Jack may return to be the leader, but Sawyer is getting pretty integral to things.  I'm beginning to think he might be the key to them all ending up on the Island.  Now Sawyer is tied to Kate through Cassidy.  Locke's dad is the original Sawyer.  He had contact with Ana Lucia and Jack's dad.  If you do the 6 degrees of seperation, isn't Locke more connected that anybody else?
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: T Mack on April 05, 2007, 01:51:03 PM
Sawyer and Jack will become closer IMO. One of Sawyer's best lines was to Jack after Ana Lucia got shot- "Because you're about the only friend I got, Doc".  I thought it was poignant and foretelling.  I'd like to see more of that side of Sawyer, but am not really happy with the way they portrayed him last night with Hurley, it was too forced.
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: Ladybug on April 05, 2007, 01:54:45 PM
I think Sawyer will be a leader of another kind, even with Jack back

Jack's brought one of the others and is going to ask the losties to accept her... his credibility will be questioned... and Jack never wanting to be a leader will instead revert to his pouty, snappy my way or the highway routine...

I hope that Sawyer can bring a little humanity back into the equation... more so than Jack ever did...
i think you're right mindsparkle.  at first i thought sawyer would hand over his new responsibility to jack, gladly, but i think there is going to be a LOT of resentment for jack bringing juliet.  i think it will be sawyer/sayid as the leader.  which will be interesting because we haven't had much interaction between these two.  and kate will falter back and forth between the two groups.  she doesn't trust juliet, but she DOES trust sawyer and jack, so she won't be able to make up her mind.  (what's new?)
Title: Re: Sawyer/Leader/PowerStruggle
Post by: uofapiglet on April 11, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
I think there will be a power struggle, but not between Jack and Sawyer.  Sayid and Jack are going to go at it over Jack bringing Juliet to camp.  Sayid will rightfully question wtf Jack is doing.

Right now, Saywer's much more to be trusted than Jack, in my opinion. Of course he was a con man, but the island's changing him. Jack has been very secretive about everything and I seriously doubt he's going to give that info away. Plus, he's taking Juliette with him to the losties camp - a grave danger imo.

I think the only good leader the losties could have is Sayid. He knows when people lie, he's decent, he's powerful.
I also don't think Sawyer would be interested in becoming the leader. Sure he is obsessed with money, but I've never seen him obsessed with power. Jack, after season 1 certainly wants to be a leader. Bleh.

These are both excellent points... either way there's obviously going to be some sort of power struggle between the Losties. It's always hard to figure out who to trust, or what true intentions each of our characters have... and even when an idea starts out being a good one it could always end up somehow bad on the island.

Sawyer likes the attention that his new role as leader provides, but his feelings towards Kate can affect his judgment especially now that Jack and Kate are both back on the beach.

Sayid will have issues with Juliet and the fact that Jack so willingly allowed it to happen. His interrogation of Julliet could be key in the following episodes.

Jack, well, he's just lost. Having stayed with the Others, his perspectives may have changed and the same goes for how the rest of the Losties may feel towards him. He will be Juliet's only ally and this will cause conflict of course.

Kate & Juliet are both vying for alpha-female status. Cat fight anyone?

And Locke seems bewildered by the whole experience of having seen his dad and what the Others have to offer... but he's probably just looking for something else to blow up to pieces.

Anyway, there are several possible scenarios as far as who will become the new leader or what will happen to the hierarchy of power among out Losties, but all I know is that the writers are setting up a great storyline for the last few episodes of this season.