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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 3 => Episode 3x13 => Topic started by: sissi on March 22, 2007, 03:13:44 PM

Title: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: sissi on March 22, 2007, 03:13:44 PM
Maybe this has already been thrown out there, but Ben keeps saying he has been  on the island his whole life. Does anyone think he is Aaron all grown up.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: lost_soul12 on March 22, 2007, 05:21:51 PM
i dont think that could be because then everything would be just in one big loop
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: casino on March 22, 2007, 05:37:06 PM
Sissi,

I think that's a viable theory, given that there is a possibility of time travel based on what happened to Desmond.  The writers said that Desmond did, in fact, actually go back in time.

Maybe that is the reason that Aaron is so important.  Without Aaron, there can be no Ben. 
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: jugdish on March 22, 2007, 05:39:55 PM
Time travel and  both people are living at the same time  for extended periods of time. Don't know if that is possible.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: General Zod on March 22, 2007, 05:41:52 PM
Is that why the others wanted Aaron?
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: lost_soul12 on March 22, 2007, 05:44:24 PM
that is a good one . so it thats true then ben is from the future then why would be come back i dont know it kinda does make sense but then it doesnt but its a good theory
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: Nancy Drew on March 22, 2007, 06:48:27 PM
If Ben is Aaron, because of a time loop, does that mean that Adam and Eve of the caves could be Jack and Kate?  They were the ones who found it.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: psychoag98 on March 22, 2007, 06:49:08 PM
OOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 22, 2007, 06:51:00 PM
If Ben is Aaron, because of a time loop, does that mean that Adam and Eve of the caves could be Jack and Kate?  They were the ones who found it.
I've heard Jack/Kate, Sawyer/Kate, Rose/Bernard, Penny/Des, Nikki/Paulo, Jin/Sun, Boone/Shannon....pick a couple-any couple.  lol
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on March 22, 2007, 06:51:40 PM
actually that doesnt matter.  The only thing that does matter is that we see Christian alive.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 22, 2007, 06:54:54 PM
actually that doesnt matter.  The only thing that does matter is that we see Christian alive.
POST OF THE DAY! ;D
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: Nancy Drew on March 22, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
Just follow the trail of empty MacCutcheon bottles, and you will probably find him!!
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: sissi on March 22, 2007, 11:37:58 PM
I don't really know who I think  Adam and Eve is. I change my mind on that regularly. I too have always thought Jack's dad was alive. I don't really know how plausible it is that aaron is Ben - but we do know that Aarron was born on the island. I also wonder if the injections they gave Claire weren't some sort of treatment to prevent Bens cancer. i do realize that that is really starting to get way out there.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: WhatThe on March 23, 2007, 03:22:55 AM
Nah...I think Ben is Sun's unborn child...lol
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: snowyjoe on March 23, 2007, 04:06:28 AM
Nah...I think Ben is Sun's unborn child...lol

OH YEAH!!


*sarcastically*  BEN LOOKS SOO ASIAN!!
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: thlaylirah on March 23, 2007, 09:20:06 AM
I love this thread. 
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: General Zod on March 23, 2007, 11:47:55 AM
I watched the show again last night and Ben said that he's not the only one who was born on the island and that the one's that weren't born there want some assurances that they can get off the island.

That was an interesting idea about Jack being Adam and Eve.  Where are the rest of the people going to be found if that's true?   
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 23, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
I love this thread. 
Why? ??? :)
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: eelpie62 on March 23, 2007, 03:21:03 PM
Time travel and both people are living at the same time for extended periods of time. Don't know if that is possible.

If the writers are going to make up something like time travel they've already thrown the rule book out the window. I don't think Aaron is Ben, but if they're going to have something impossible like time travel they can do anything they want with it.
The BBC program Life On Mars has a character who seems to be simultaneously back in 1973 (where he woke up after being hit by a car in 2006) and in 2006 (where he's in a coma from being hit by a car). In one episode he sees himself as a child walking to a footy match with his father. Granted, that show hasn't fully explained whether the 1973 portion is his 2006 coma dream, but it seems to be both real and a dream.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on March 23, 2007, 06:11:46 PM
Ben is not Aaron,  Adam and Eve are the DeGroots,

I think the big thing is here is that since Ben said that he was not the only one born on the island and everyone else need some assurance that they can leave, does this mean that he cant leave, which would also mean that Aaron cant leave.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on March 23, 2007, 10:20:43 PM
Speaking of Adam and Eve, regardless of who they are, our only real clue is what they had with them.

A white stone and a black stone.

We got a lot of light/dark messages from previous seasons, but how can we tie anyone to Adam and Eve with the stones?
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 23, 2007, 10:25:20 PM
Speaking of Adam and Eve, regardless of who they are, our only real clue is what they had with them.

A white stone and a black stone.

We got a lot of light/dark messages from previous seasons, but how can we tie anyone to Adam and Eve with the stones?
The stones were supposedly on a table in Des & Penney's apartment.  I'll try to dig up a screen cap.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 23, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q107/jlpitzer/normal_flashes-cap268.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: Nancy Drew on March 23, 2007, 11:26:42 PM
Wow!!  How did I miss that being mentioned?  I must be slacking and need to spend more time at SWLS!!  So, what do the stones mean?  Is it a gift of "rights" to the big-boy's club?  Kind of like how the Masons were so secretive, so they created different ways to identify other members without having to ask them.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: PrincessLeia on March 24, 2007, 03:21:37 AM
It is a very strong representation of the whole "black/white" theme on the show.

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Black_and_white

This was interesting from Lostpedia, however.....

Quote
Some claim, the black and white stones (seen on Adam and Eve) are on the table in Desmond's flat. ("Flashes Before Your Eyes") However, these "stones" are likely the bottle caps from Desmond's beer bottles rather the rocks Jack finds on "Adam and Eve."
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: WhatThe on March 24, 2007, 05:17:34 AM
Ben is not Aaron,  Adam and Eve are the DeGroots,


I don't think the DeGroots were old enough to be Adam and Eve...Jack had said they were dead around 40-50 years. I thought the DeGroots were alive in the 70s, though.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: DirtyMaggieMae on March 24, 2007, 09:48:10 AM
Well if the "stones" are only bottle caps on Desmond's table, they certainly are placed meticulously...

However, I can't explain why he would have the exact same stones as Adam and Eve
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: thlaylirah on March 24, 2007, 10:15:19 AM
Ben is not Aaron,  Adam and Eve are the DeGroots,


I don't think the DeGroots were old enough to be Adam and Eve...Jack had said they were dead around 40-50 years. I thought the DeGroots were alive in the 70s, though.

I agree with you WhatThe.  The DeGroots probably aren't old enough to be Adam and Eve.   And it's silly to say that Ben isn't Aaron like it's a fact.  No one has any definitive answers except the writers.
Title: Re: Is Ben really Aaron
Post by: a_dot_out on March 24, 2007, 12:28:20 PM
Well if the "stones" are only bottle caps on Desmond's table, they certainly are placed meticulously...

However, I can't explain why he would have the exact same stones as Adam and Eve

A closer look:
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9634/tableobjectsnd9.jpg)

I agree that the objects seem to have been meticulously placed. I really can not confirm for myself as to what the objects truly are.