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Title: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: BurkRoyer on May 25, 2006, 04:53:56 PM
I thought the most significant thing that happen in last night's episode was the last scene, which was NOT on the island and NOT a flashback.  That is the first time, since the first episode, a non-flashback scene occured off the island!
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone better...
Post by: Pandora on May 25, 2006, 05:01:21 PM
What a good point, Burk!  That scene was in real island-time, but remote geographically from it.  I can't think of another time that's happened on the show, can anyone else?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone better...
Post by: goober on May 25, 2006, 05:04:34 PM
No. Puts a bunch of theories to rest methinks  :-\
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone better...
Post by: HurleyHawk on May 25, 2006, 05:29:53 PM
I agree that this last scene is a HUGE indicator of what is to come.  Here are my thoughts...
1) it puts to rest the whole 'time travel/twilight zone' theory
2) it links the island to current day (as in Nov 2004 - 60+ days after the crash.)
3) How does Penny know what to look for?  Is her dad involved in the Dharma project?

I think it was very important to show the connection to what we call the 'real world' compared to the 'island world' and will make for continued story lines in the next few seasons.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: LOSTgurl on May 25, 2006, 06:12:41 PM
And I guess my theory that the whole Island is made up in their own minds and/or that they are all dreaming... is out the window!!!  :o
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: lwaves on May 29, 2006, 06:18:10 PM
I agree that it's nice to get a link to the off-island world.

To answer Hurley Hawk.
3) How does Penny know what to look for?  Is her dad involved in the Dharma project?

Desmond was on a round the world race. He wouldn't be the only one and when he didn't make it back people would look for him. Even if he was well of course they would have an idea of what route he originally would have taken.
Flight 815 crashed/disappeared. People would be looking for it and again they would have original flight plans.

So that puts Desmond and Flight 815 in an area of ocean (even if it's a very large area).
Now there is a chance the electromagnetic anomaly that presumably brought down 815 was detected in some way (maybe not pin pointed) by someone. Penny is obviously connected money-wise so probably has other connections. She then sets up the station to look for this anomaly.

Personally I think her father is involved in some way. I think she knows this. I think she's going against her father because he took Desmond away from her and didn't tell her about the letters (which she may know about now).
Maybe her father even caused Desmond to crash into the island to get rid of him (would be possible if he was involved with Dharma).

As a side note:
There are a few minor characters that have power and money.
Penny's father, Sun's father, Locke's father. All big business men, all have power, all try to manipulate people.
All involved with Dharma???
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on May 29, 2006, 07:33:01 PM
That could be the big connection. None of them a real pleased with their offspring either.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: validkeys on May 30, 2006, 03:08:09 PM
one of the things that I find interesting is this twin theory. Even though I dont believe the bad twin theory we have Libby and Jack. Some people are saying that maybe libby had a twin. Now we have these portuguese guys in the middle of the arctic in what looks like a downed aircraft with a guy that looks exactly like Jack. Did the general population perhaps miss one of the biggest shockers in the show? That this portuguese guy is a twin of jack?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone better...
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 30, 2006, 03:13:05 PM
No. Puts a bunch of theories to rest methinks  :-\

yes... it says the island actually exits on this earth in this time
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on May 30, 2006, 03:54:09 PM
i don't believe we missed anything. that guy was a one time character and is not important in the show.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 30, 2006, 03:57:10 PM
one of the things that I find interesting is this twin theory. Even though I dont believe the bad twin theory we have Libby and Jack. Some people are saying that maybe libby had a twin. Now we have these portuguese guys in the middle of the arctic in what looks like a downed aircraft with a guy that looks exactly like Jack. Did the general population perhaps miss one of the biggest shockers in the show? That this portuguese guy is a twin of jack?

i've heard that portugese is brazilian here, and if it was really the twin of jack the proddies would have saved some money by just having matt fox play dual roles like so many others before
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: validkeys on May 30, 2006, 04:03:10 PM
yeah, you guys are right. Its just funny that they decided to use someone that was so similar in appearance.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 30, 2006, 04:06:35 PM
yeah, you guys are right. Its just funny that they decided to use someone that was so similar in appearance.
there really is no "right" though, we'll get answers by series finale, dont' worry
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on June 05, 2006, 03:04:57 AM
No. Puts a bunch of theories to rest methinks  :-\

yes... it says the island actually exits on this earth in this time
on this earth or inside the earth?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on June 05, 2006, 02:32:53 PM
GJ Not a center of the earth theory. GJ you don't buy this stuff don't sell it.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on June 05, 2006, 02:35:55 PM
It was fun to post the whole theroy with the  tie in with the game.If you read it you would see the proudcers have obvioulsy read Kirscher's works from the 17th century. No science fact does not have them inside the earth (Actual posting in spoilers theories)
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on June 05, 2006, 05:36:55 PM
I don't go in spoiler threads. I don't want any of the anticipation ruined when watching the show.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on July 22, 2006, 07:29:55 PM
You could still have posted somehting in there ;D ;D
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone better...
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on July 28, 2006, 07:50:40 PM
I agree that this last scene is a HUGE indicator of what is to come.  Here are my thoughts...
1) it puts to rest the whole 'time travel/twilight zone' theory
2) it links the island to current day (as in Nov 2004 - 60+ days after the crash.)
3) How does Penny know what to look for?  Is her dad involved in the Dharma project?

I think it was very important to show the connection to what we call the 'real world' compared to the 'island world' and will make for continued story lines in the next few seasons.

Hurley:
Actually, the writers have indicated that time on the Island is not the outside world's "real time" so time speculation is exactly that--speculation.

I believe the writers have shown us the "outside world" so as to later compare it to "Island time".... the very mention by the writers that Island time is in question should be an indication that it's not exactly the time we think it is.

For example, they're going to explain why Walt is so big in S3, as opposed to being 10 for the first 3 mos on the Island.  The indication being that which I posted above.

It'll be freaky to see what the explanation is, but I do not believe Island time is the same as outside world real time.

cheers
*Des8
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on July 31, 2006, 03:51:23 PM
I agree that this last scene is a HUGE indicator of what is to come.  Here are my thoughts...
1) it puts to rest the whole 'time travel/twilight zone' theory
2) it links the island to current day (as in Nov 2004 - 60+ days after the crash.)
3) How does Penny know what to look for?  Is her dad involved in the Dharma project?

I think it was very important to show the connection to what we call the 'real world' compared to the 'island world' and will make for continued story lines in the next few seasons.

Hurley:
Actually, the writers have indicated that time on the Island is not the outside world's "real time" so time speculation is exactly that--speculation.

I believe the writers have shown us the "outside world" so as to later compare it to "Island time".... the very mention by the writers that Island time is in question should be an indication that it's not exactly the time we think it is.

For example, they're going to explain why Walt is so big in S3, as opposed to being 10 for the first 3 mos on the Island.  The indication being that which I posted above.

It'll be freaky to see what the explanation is, but I do not believe Island time is the same as outside world real time.

cheers
*Des8

I agree with Des but Des as in season 2 you amy want to go back and use spoiler tags on why we agree
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on July 31, 2006, 07:05:55 PM
Why use a spoiler tag?  There's no spoiler here.  It's obvious that Walt is no longer 4 feet tall--and we've already seen that in Season 2.  Now they're going to have to explain why Walt is taller and had a growth spurt even in Season 2.

If I'd have said "I heard that Walt will be played by a different character," that'd be one thing, but there's no spoiler here.  If there was, I'd have put it in the spoiler section, silly!

*Des8
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: BurkRoyer on August 01, 2006, 01:12:29 PM
I don't think it is a spoiler, because I don't think it is true.  When the producer say island time is not the same as "real time" they mean our real time, not the shows outside world real time.  The fact that the date of the crash was on the print out was the same day as the actually crash is some proof of that.  I think Walt's taller growth will never be explained.  It was just ignored last season and we won't see Walt again on the show, I believe.  That's why the sent them off...
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: misspensinger on August 01, 2006, 03:23:35 PM
Walt is signed for Season 3.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: BurkRoyer on August 01, 2006, 03:29:46 PM
Well, then they'll explain it with growth hormones and steroids or something.  I still don't think it'll be a time issue...
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 01, 2006, 03:55:34 PM
i don't think they will need to explain it. i mean we all know why he grew so fast isn't that good enough?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on August 02, 2006, 08:26:57 PM
I don't think it is a spoiler, because I don't think it is true.  When the producer say island time is not the same as "real time" they mean our real time, not the shows outside world real time.  The fact that the date of the crash was on the print out was the same day as the actually crash is some proof of that.  I think Walt's taller growth will never be explained.  It was just ignored last season and we won't see Walt again on the show, I believe.  That's why the sent them off...
The date on the printout might be the same because it is the time that the entered the island. Now that they are on the island, there time might be moving either faster or slower as that of the outside world.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 02, 2006, 09:51:14 PM
maybe im still nto sure though.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 03, 2006, 01:09:01 PM
I don't think it is a spoiler, because I don't think it is true.  When the producer say island time is not the same as "real time" they mean our real time, not the shows outside world real time.  The fact that the date of the crash was on the print out was the same day as the actually crash is some proof of that.  I think Walt's taller growth will never be explained.  It was just ignored last season and we won't see Walt again on the show, I believe.  That's why the sent them off...
The date on the printout might be the same because it is the time that the entered the island. Now that they are on the island, there time might be moving either faster or slower as that of the outside world.
Exactly and walt will be back.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: misspensinger on August 03, 2006, 01:18:30 PM
Juggy and GJ, I really don't see how that is possible or how they could explain that.  It is not a property of electromagnetism. 
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 03, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
Juggy and GJ, I really don't see how that is possible or how they could explain that.  It is not a property of electromagnetism. 
Producers said
Spoiler
time moves differently on island than in outside world
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: misspensinger on August 03, 2006, 01:27:34 PM
Oh, ok!  Thanks Addie :-\
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on August 04, 2006, 01:30:17 AM
It may not have to do with electromagnetic properties. We don't know everything about this island.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 04, 2006, 11:18:29 AM
that is true. it could all just be some opticall illusion this island.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: misspensinger on August 04, 2006, 05:14:07 PM
It may not have to do with electromagnetic properties. We don't know everything about this island.
That is true Jug we don't.  I am just basing it off of what we do know.  That's all.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on August 04, 2006, 10:23:18 PM
Fair enough. That is all we really can do.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 07, 2006, 01:25:56 PM
unfortunately it is.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 10, 2006, 01:36:49 PM
It may not have to do with electromagnetic properties. We don't know everything about this island.

but hopefully form teasers on S3 we will learn a lot more about it.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on August 10, 2006, 02:05:42 PM
where are you getting these teasers from?? I Want teasers.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: BurkRoyer on August 10, 2006, 02:07:08 PM
I like

http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php

Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 10, 2006, 02:07:49 PM
where are you getting these teasers from?? I Want teasers.

we are in spolier free section  was being careful,  see new posts in spoliers S3 one by ladybug though topic not under her name.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 10, 2006, 02:08:33 PM
I like

http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php




we meant on our own site ;D ;D

Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: BurkRoyer on August 10, 2006, 02:09:46 PM
I like

http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php




we meant on our own site ;D ;D


OK.  Sorry.  Not trying to redirect business...
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 10, 2006, 05:15:44 PM
but you did. ;)
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 12, 2006, 11:56:29 PM
but you did. ;)

yes he did alll answers on main page under connections investigations ,themes etc. seek and ye shalll find right here.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 14, 2006, 06:14:42 PM
huh?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: JBRam on August 21, 2006, 01:21:41 AM
huh?
It's Biblical, Becks. If you ook for it hard enough, you;ll find it.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 23, 2006, 08:05:16 PM
ok still don't get it but it doesn't matter whatever.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on August 27, 2006, 10:43:20 PM
would love to know your theories
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 30, 2006, 10:22:28 PM
who's theories? and if so on what?
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on August 30, 2006, 10:29:07 PM
anything and everything
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on August 31, 2006, 06:44:27 PM
well you gotta give me one thing or i will get overwhelmed. not the best multi-tasker. :D
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: jugdish on September 02, 2006, 01:05:39 AM
You have your orders, you need to follow them.
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 03, 2006, 09:52:21 PM
who's theories? and if so on what?

 your own on any of these topics
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: beckhamfan on September 05, 2006, 06:45:07 PM
here is mine on whether or not the island has healling powers or not.


i think that the island has healing powers, and they have worked miracles for rose. it was so amazing to see how she went from being about to die in 6 months i think it was, to being healed completely. although on locke, i think his wheelchair thing was just mental and he could have walked anytime he wanted to. he was like ricky bobby in taledega nights. :D
Title: Re: Going where Lost has never gone before..
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on October 03, 2006, 12:28:08 PM
the island healed rose and locke and possibly Jin  the islan itself which is why Rose never wnet back into hatch and another reason for locke to leave it.