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Title: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 25, 2006, 10:21:18 AM
What was with charlie at the end of the show. All of this happened in the hatch and he comes back and acts like some milk was spilled. Their not here yet? And his facial expressions where strange. A couple thoughts

1. Just continues the losties habits of never communicating with others.

2. Charlie is just a nutter?

3. He thinks that locke, eko, jack, kate etc are gone so he is going to slide into the leadership role and win Claires heart.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: IFilingPoo on May 25, 2006, 10:35:05 AM
I just think he is in both shock and denial.

After the flash of light he has prob written off Locke, Eko & Desmond as Dead.
<PSYCH ALERT PSYCHO ALERT>

He has also prob decided to just take care of himself and his own needs, or decided to go to a hidden hail mary to recover from what he has just seen and that's why he appears to be so unattched and despondent.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 25, 2006, 10:37:33 AM
It was his reaction in addition to what he said. He looked relieved or happy. He has always looked out for himself. I think that he may see this as an opportunity for himself.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: becksmex on May 25, 2006, 10:47:54 AM
I thought that Charlie acted strangely all the way through the episode, not just at the end.  He was very strange when he told Locke that Desmond was back -- what was his motivation there?  He built Locke's case up and kind of helped him get Eko out of the way, then suddenly he is helping Eko blow up the hatch to overthrow Locke's decision to not push the button!  Finally, he tries to help a knocked-out Eko, but ends up outside the hatch, by himself, unconcerned by the missing friends in the blown-up hatch, and very nonchalant about the explosion, not to mention the electromagnetic reaction!  Maybe his final reaction could be chalked up to shock, but...what the ?!*%$ is up with Charlie even before the dynamite/electromagnetic incident?  I think we may be seeing a dramatic shift in character.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 25, 2006, 10:50:56 AM
He has been a locke hatere since locked kicked his a$$. He was acting like fenry in captivity. Playing people off each other so he gets them to do what he wants. strange
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: becksmex on May 25, 2006, 10:58:42 AM
He has been a locke hatere since locked kicked his a$$. He was acting like fenry in captivity. Playing people off each other so he gets them to do what he wants. strange

I don't know, jug.  He seemed genuinely concerned and confused when Eko enlisted his help.  I don't think Charlie is as smart or as sure of himself as Fenry is -- I think he keeps changing his mind and really has no idea what he wants, or can do.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 25, 2006, 11:07:14 AM
I am not solid on the fenry comparisons he just up to something at the end of the episode. He wants to be important. He hates locke so he set him up. Wants to be ekos buddy so tried to help him. My theory is that he thinks they are dead and wants to fill the leadership role.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Bones on May 25, 2006, 11:12:31 AM
When the pressure in a confined area changes like that and blows your eardrums you are a little wacked out.  I think there was more to it than that though.  I worry for claire and aaron.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 25, 2006, 11:16:41 AM
Aaron is very important to this show. I am worried about him with charlie in his life.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Stray on May 25, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
He was acting strange during the whole episode. We know that he does not like Locke. I'm sure he wishes to get back at Locke for betting him up and he was jealous of Locke replacing him as Claire's care taker.

Now, with Locke missing, he can step in again and fulfill that role of taking care of the baby and Claire. I really don't think he is after a leadership role.

- Stray
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Ladybug on May 25, 2006, 11:26:05 AM
i agree that charlie was acting strange during the episode.  i think the first part (before the meltdown) was because he just wants to be in the "in" crowd.  he only gets included when someone NEEDS something from him.  I think that makes him p.o.ed.  could his lack of emotion at the end be due to shock?  i mean look at all that has happened.  how unrealistic is everything?  then this!  i think it could cause shock in anyone.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 25, 2006, 01:40:53 PM
Charlie's reaction at the end was very weird.He didn't even go back to see if Eko and Locke were alive.He just said Oh they aren't here.he had nothing against Eko,but did against Locke.But whenever Charlie goes into evil wicked dark side Charlie  he wears his ajacket with the hood.That was the only thing missing last night. He was in his dark Charlie mood,could care less that three people could bedead, he had Claire that's all he cared about.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: LOSTgurl on May 25, 2006, 01:59:49 PM
The only thing I got out of Charlie's weird reaction is that he is  Whipped!! Dontcha think?  Everyone knows (or maybe it's just a woman's observation) that a man will do anything for a woman he's trying to "catch".   ;D :-*

Also, my b/f thinks maybe Charlie talking to Locke about Desmond being back was a figment of Locke imagination (with the help of the Island's doings).
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: reliquary on May 25, 2006, 02:13:53 PM
I agree Charlie seemed stunned. He genuinely thought that Locke and the others should have made it out of the hatch. He was still recovering from the blast he took. I think it is possible that all of them are still alive in the hatch and Desmond while trying to turn the key didn't turn it in time and the electromagnetic shock went out. The timer was freaked out and he did have to crawl a long way. I have a feeling that we will see them all next season. We will all have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Jonny_BB on May 25, 2006, 02:24:56 PM
It seemed to me like Charlie was just giving the big "What happened in the hatch with the explosion and the electromagnetic lights and the immense danger?  Ah, nuthin' I can't handle baby".  He's been acting strange for ages though.  Ever since he pulled the stunts with Aaron, he's lost favour with the group and has a sore head about it.  Now he's back in with Claire though, he seems more sure of himself and happy.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: GeoffT on May 25, 2006, 02:38:39 PM
I had a different interpretation...let me know what you think!

Here's what we know:

1. We know that there was an electromagnetic 'incident' at the Swan Station years ago which resulted in monitoring by the Pearl Station and radical changes to Swan Station protocol.
2. We know that Walt was abducted by the Others for his specialness, which the show leads us to believe is tied to telepathic/telekinetic powers (the dead bird and the polar bear in Season 1).
3. Charlie was at ground-zero of an island-wide electromagnetic explosion which was powerful enough to set off alarms in a polar monitoring station (i.e. someplace very far away), yet wasn't harmed in the least.
4. Charlie was completely unconcerned about both the event and the well-being of Locke and Eko.
5. Less than 60 seconds after sitting down with Claire, she does what he's wanted her to do since the plane crashed (i.e. kiss him).

And here's what I'm wondering...could it be that Locke, Eko, Charlie (and maybe Desmond) were subjected to the same 'electromagnetic event' that occurred years ago? One that activated latent psychokinetic abilities in humans? Did Claire kiss Charlie because Charlie wanted it and 'made' it happen unintentionally?

Sounds like a long shot?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Jonny_BB on May 25, 2006, 02:45:22 PM
Sounds too comic book to me.  Charlie is in the middle of a huge explosion which turns him into a super-hero, and the first thing he does with his special powers is make Claire get off with him?  Well I suppose he'd better take advantage of his new found abilities whilst nobody else knows  ;D
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: GeoffT on May 25, 2006, 02:51:24 PM
Sounds too comic book to me.  Charlie is in the middle of a huge explosion which turns him into a super-hero, and the first thing he does with his special powers is make Claire get off with him?  Well I suppose he'd better take advantage of his new found abilities whilst nobody else knows  ;D

Haha yeah...it is a bit superhero-ish!

Of course, you assume that Charlie knows he was affected. It could be (like it is/might be with Walt) that he's unaware of anything having changed. Claire kissing him isn't something he wanted to happen right then, just the realization of a long-term/subconscious desire.

I hereby dub this the Supercharlie theory. :)
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: SloHand on May 25, 2006, 03:29:36 PM
I think Charlie is showing signs of advanced 'lost island sickness'. Wasn't Rousseau who said that her crew went crazy/acted wierd and she took them out of their misery? Maybe the way Charlie is acting is the early signs of the sickness? and that the sickness is caused by his high level/ close proximity to the electromagnegtic blast. More sickness will follow.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 27, 2006, 09:30:14 PM
No find my earler thread he's in his dark Charlie mood again just without his Darth Vader hood from his sweat jacket.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Gelotripsy on May 28, 2006, 12:20:42 AM
Maybe Charlie knows (or thinks he knows) that something bad happened to Eko, Locke and Desmond. And he's glad. Less people to boss him around. Plus, do we really think he threw out ALL the heroin? After that type of experience plus a head injury, I would think he's have some serious pain. Maybe he medicated himself.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 28, 2006, 02:49:55 AM
It all seems resonable that he didn't mind leaving Locke (hated) desmond (doesn't know) but he did try to save eko and had a kindered relationship with him. I have a harder time believing that he could shrug off eko, but it is self centered charliey.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: V on May 28, 2006, 06:54:08 AM
Charlie has always since the beginning of the show wanted to be included in every activity/news/expedition that was going on, and hated the idea of being left out of anything.  He is always saying something along the lines of don't mind me/pretend im not here/no one tells me anything.  He has come from a rock band, albeit one hit wonder, in the shadow of his brother,  had drug issues and is completely rapt in Claire.  The guy has issues, but most improtantly he reacts strongly based on his emotions, which i don't think makes him evil.  Maybe too quick to react and selfcentred.
He did leave Ecko standing, aware that he was ok, so saved himself. 

But i think Locke's comment "they're not my friends" after he locked Ecko out of the hatch, was definitely something that spun me out, even though you knew he was going through a severe question of faith.  Poor guy, he looked so pitiful when he admitted that he was wrong.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: AmazonMonkey on May 28, 2006, 10:51:56 AM

He did leave Ecko standing, aware that he was ok, so saved himself. 


True, and it was my interpretation that Eko told Charlie he was fine and to get out.  I think you will find that Eko purposefully stayed with Locke, as you said he looked pitiful, but he DID admit he was wrong.  Eko is there for Locke just like Desmond is there for him right now.  This should turn Locke around on the "There not my friends." issue. 
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: sam_i_am on May 28, 2006, 11:26:14 AM
3. Charlie was at ground-zero of an island-wide electromagnetic explosion which was powerful enough to set off alarms in a polar monitoring station (i.e. someplace very far away), yet wasn't harmed in the least.

I have a question about this. You say that the monitering station shown at the end with the 2 guys in it is "very far away". How do we know this? We have no idea where the island is. The polar station could be right around the bend for all we know! An just for the record: I don't think there was an explosion. My theory is that the white light we saw was the electro-magnetic feild being released. Locke and Eko may still be alive.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: AmazonMonkey on May 28, 2006, 11:46:59 AM
3. Charlie was at ground-zero of an island-wide electromagnetic explosion which was powerful enough to set off alarms in a polar monitoring station (i.e. someplace very far away), yet wasn't harmed in the least.

I have a question about this. You say that the monitering station shown at the end with the 2 guys in it is "very far away". How do we know this? We have no idea where the island is. The polar station could be right around the bend for all we know! An just for the record: I don't think there was an explosion. My theory is that the white light we saw was the electro-magnetic feild being released. Locke and Eko may still be alive.

If I was looking for the love of my life who was lost at sea, I would do it from somewhere I could everthing and anything at once (one of the poles and since they are megnetically 'polar' this also relates to magnets and magnetism)... ABC doesn't expect everyone to be Rocket Scientiest or Doctoral Graduates in Thermo Nuclear Megnetics so your right we don't "know" but it would make more sense if she is looking for him then it would be strange for it to be right around the ocrner, and a bit coincidental.
BUT it MIGHT be.  Just like they could be in a huge skinner box in the middle of Brooklyn NY.

MAYBE... she itsn't looking for him... Maybe Henry Gale (teh real one) is her finace!  :-P Heh. And she is lookng for him.  (That was a joke).


Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 28, 2006, 02:36:51 PM
 We know now for sure from producers podcast- see thread under therioes and specualtions spoilers,- that thye were in artic or antartic, producers purposely said both.They also said this was the first time they did a scene not in flashback that wasn't on the island.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 28, 2006, 02:38:47 PM

He did leave Ecko standing, aware that he was ok, so saved himself. 


Excelent point.But Chalrie or someone else on the island who didn't know what happened should have gone and looked for Eko, Locke and Desmond.

True, and it was my interpretation that Eko told Charlie he was fine and to get out.  I think you will find that Eko purposefully stayed with Locke, as you said he looked pitiful, but he DID admit he was wrong.  Eko is there for Locke just like Desmond is there for him right now.  This should turn Locke around on the "There not my friends." issue. 
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 28, 2006, 06:53:36 PM
yay... crazy cloned charlie has walt powers!

now get him back on the heroin for some truly special effects!
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: NoraCharles on May 28, 2006, 10:19:04 PM
Charlie has been wacky a lot this season, not just in this finale episode.
Wasn't he the one who 'abducted' Jin Sun?
He's been a sh*t stirrer.
Played off both sides with the gun thing too, didn't he?

He hasn't been right since his Aaron dreamwalking stuff.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 28, 2006, 10:20:45 PM
You mean Sun no he has been all over the mental map this season.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: WhatThe on May 29, 2006, 06:10:28 AM
The only thing that doesn't make sense about the whole "Charlie's glad Locke and Eko are out of the way" scenario is that if he thinks they're dead--and is glad they are for the reason stated--why act like they aren't? Why not realize this is his chance to get back into Claire's good graces AND lead everyone back to the hatch so they can see for themselves that Locke and Eko are dead? It doesn't serve any purpose for him to keep it to himself, and it doesn't do any harm to let everyone else know.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: AmazonMonkey on May 29, 2006, 12:09:47 PM
The only thing that doesn't make sense about the whole "Charlie's glad Locke and Eko are out of the way" scenario is that if he thinks they're dead--and is glad they are for the reason stated--why act like they aren't? Why not realize this is his chance to get back into Claire's good graces AND lead everyone back to the hatch so they can see for themselves that Locke and Eko are dead? It doesn't serve any purpose for him to keep it to himself, and it doesn't do any harm to let everyone else know.

He's half deaf, bleeding, and might even have a fork and a spoon imprint a couple places he shouldn't... he was 10 feet from a 'event' that we still don't fully know what it was... Eko just almost blew him up because of desperation, Locke said he wasn't his friend (so maybe he did hear that part).   He got Eko up and made sure he was ok, and stumbled back to the beach... at that point all that he could focus on was the fact that Claire was smiling at him, and she didn't hate him anymore.  Of course he was happy.  (That and he promised to get Locke back, and well Locke did that for him).


Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: davf0 on May 29, 2006, 02:25:23 PM
hey maybe after the big shock of all the events charlie went and had a blast on his secret stash
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 29, 2006, 02:57:33 PM
hey maybe after the big shock of all the events charlie went and had a blast on his secret stash

"cloned charlie went and had..."
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: demra on May 29, 2006, 02:58:23 PM
I kind of took his reaction to the question  " where are Echo Locke and Desmond "
as he had seen them after the " event" and was truely surprised they had not returned

they could be late comming back 'cause  Echo is busy beating the living H#LL out of Locke
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 29, 2006, 03:07:47 PM
Funny :) :) or he could be havig Locke ask for his forgiveness and having Locke do a bunch of prayers and hail mary's.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: demra on May 29, 2006, 03:26:48 PM
If Echo ask's I obay
he is one bad man
Yes Mr Echo anything else Mr Echo  of course Mr Echo

LOL
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 29, 2006, 03:29:14 PM
If Echo ask's I obay
he is one bad man
Yes Mr Echo anything else Mr Echo  of course Mr Echo

LOL

shaft is a bad muthaSHUTYOMOUTH
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 29, 2006, 03:40:15 PM
If Echo ask's I obay
he is one bad man
Yes Mr Echo anything else Mr Echo  of course Mr Echo

LOL
Yu got it Demra
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: WhatThe on May 29, 2006, 04:43:50 PM
The only thing that doesn't make sense about the whole "Charlie's glad Locke and Eko are out of the way" scenario is that if he thinks they're dead--and is glad they are for the reason stated--why act like they aren't? Why not realize this is his chance to get back into Claire's good graces AND lead everyone back to the hatch so they can see for themselves that Locke and Eko are dead? It doesn't serve any purpose for him to keep it to himself, and it doesn't do any harm to let everyone else know.

He's half deaf, bleeding, and might even have a fork and a spoon imprint a couple places he shouldn't... he was 10 feet from a 'event' that we still don't fully know what it was... Eko just almost blew him up because of desperation, Locke said he wasn't his friend (so maybe he did hear that part).   He got Eko up and made sure he was ok, and stumbled back to the beach... at that point all that he could focus on was the fact that Claire was smiling at him, and she didn't hate him anymore.  Of course he was happy.  (That and he promised to get Locke back, and well Locke did that for him).

Um, but by the last scene it was well beyond sunset, night had taken over and everyone was back to being calm. Charlie was cracking jokes and kissing Claire by that point. I think the shock-bleeding-flying forks excuse is no longer valid at that point lol. And that's why I said I have a problem with the "Charlie's glad Eko and Locke are out of the way" scenario, because if he truly WAS glad they were out of the way, he'd want everyone to know they were out of the way.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 29, 2006, 06:01:32 PM
Quote
Um, but by the last scene it was well beyond sunset, night had taken over and everyone was back to being calm. Charlie was cracking jokes and kissing Claire by that point. I think the shock-bleeding-flying forks excuse is no longer valid at that point lol. And that's why I said I have a problem with the "Charlie's glad Eko and Locke are out of the way" scenario, because if he truly WAS glad they were out of the way, he'd want everyone to know they were out of the way.
 
Exactly he is back i nevil Chalrie darth vader mode without his hood on.He should have gone back to look forthem.  He was glad he had Locke out of the way with Claire.But why leave Eko.This is almost as cold as Michael.
 
 
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Jumkun on May 29, 2006, 08:21:22 PM
Let me try another twist... (a hard one)

We all say that Charlie has been acting strangely lately... what if he was following "orders"? I know it's a hard one... :P

But it would explain why did he get the vaccine (urgh, my english is terrible X<) (well, the pharmacs). Just the perfect thing to get Claire at his side (without even knowing she was searching them...). He could just got them from The Others. Then warn Locke about Desmond being in the island, so they can trigger the computer...

It would explain why The Others don't say anything about the "explosion" (whatever). They were expecting it. And it would explain too the "happy-Charlie" of the end (mission acomplished).

I know, it's quite a stretch and it doesn't fit well enough... just a tought.

(please, don't hit me ...  ;))
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: AmazonMonkey on May 29, 2006, 08:52:25 PM

And everyone is saying its dark and been hours since the 'event' and Charlie didn't go back... but we only saw that little clip... for all we know Locke and Desond we up the beach drinking their Dharma issue Jonny Walker and laughing about Eko not having eye brows.   So maybe we just don't know they are ok yet. ;)  (I got your back Jumkun now they'll come after me you are safe)
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 29, 2006, 09:50:36 PM
Maybe charlies is just a nutter
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 29, 2006, 09:51:23 PM
Maybe charlies is just a nutter
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: AmazonMonkey on May 29, 2006, 09:59:21 PM
Maybe charlies is just a nutter

Maybe Charlie was in the nuthouse with Hurley, and thats why he likes Suckshaft so much.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on May 30, 2006, 12:14:21 AM
Watched it again and he is goofy at the end. Joking like it was nothing- answer her question will you!!!!!
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: OLLY-wood on May 30, 2006, 04:30:38 AM
Maybe charlies is just a nutter

Maybe Charlie was in the nuthouse with Hurley, and thats why he likes Suckshaft so much.


ewww... he said suckshaft
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Bones on May 30, 2006, 07:48:45 AM
I watched the end again too.  There is a going to be something big with Charlie just wandering out of the woods like that.  That's just weird.  Island shakes, light burns everyone eyes, Charlie's just hanging out...oh P.S. Claire want to make out...sweet.

Although the theory that Charlie uses mind control from the EMP to make Claire kiss him is bogus.  They were holding hands at the funeral.   
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: miketrapasso on May 31, 2006, 05:13:18 PM
is it not possible that locke, desmond and eko are all right, and told charlie not to tell anyone what happened?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: WhatThe on May 31, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
is it not possible that locke, desmond and eko are all right, and told charlie not to tell anyone what happened?
Then he shouldn't have been making joking comments about the "fireball" and the "flying forks". Besides, it really didn't seem like anyone except Claire was even mildly curious as to what happened, and even SHE barely showed interest..lol
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on May 31, 2006, 08:57:53 PM
Why would Locke Ekoand Desmond not want any one to knww what,happend every living creature on that island heard the sound saw the light. Charlie was in evi lDath Vader  mode just forgot his hood.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: HurleysGirl on June 01, 2006, 02:20:15 PM
But the hatch guys wouldn't have seen the light, possibly didn't even hear the sound, especially Charlie with the explosion related hearing loss.  Depending on what happened in the hatch, Charlie really may not know how bizarre it got (other than the flying forks).
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: validkeys on June 01, 2006, 02:59:06 PM
what are the possibilities of short term memory loss? What if thats one of the reasons for no one communicating? They are forgetting..I know it doesnt cover everything but there had to be some reason for the lack of communication
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: HurleysGirl on June 01, 2006, 03:10:04 PM
what are the possibilities of short term memory loss? What if thats one of the reasons for no one communicating? They are forgetting..I know it doesnt cover everything but there had to be some reason for the lack of communication

There's a reason why this wouldn't work, but I forget.............
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on June 02, 2006, 11:03:25 AM
Why would Locke Ekoand Desmond not want any one to knww what,happend every living creature on that island heard the sound saw the light. Charlie was in evi lDath Vader  mode just forgot his hood.

Because no one wants to know anything about what happens on craphole island. Locke to des, charlie and eko shhhhhh don't tell anyone we just blew the hatch to bits and made the sky turn purple. Maybe noone will notice!

(I know it didn't get blown up)
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: demra on June 04, 2006, 12:52:24 PM
But the hatch guys wouldn't have seen the light, possibly didn't even hear the sound, especially Charlie with the explosion related hearing loss.  Depending on what happened in the hatch, Charlie really may not know how bizarre it got (other than the flying forks).


if the noise was so loud at the dock , the beach , and the boat 
can you imagine how loud it must have been inside the hatch
the three will come wondering out of the jungle with great sun tans and  yelling to each other and asking
  " What did you say speak up "    " Huh " 
"What"

LOL
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on June 04, 2006, 10:20:08 PM
And Demra they will come outand ask Chalrie where were you why didn't you see if we were okay?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on June 05, 2006, 03:52:12 AM
Charlie behaving like nothing happened isn't that unusual on this island.  Sayid pointed it out to Charlie in an earlier episode.  He reminded Charlie that Ethan had hanged him up in a tree and left him for dead.  And he mentioned that everyone was acting like there was no danger when there clearly was.  The weird complacency these people exhibit time and time again might be an effect of the magnetic field or the disease. 
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on June 05, 2006, 03:56:17 AM
No just as many of us point out they don't communicate and they are becoming complacent. but we know thee is no disease.....or is there?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on June 05, 2006, 05:41:43 PM
Michael's arm sure looked bad. But that is another thread, Charlies reaction was from the fact that he is loon and wants to have some power.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on June 06, 2006, 02:32:05 PM
Now that we are merging other topics into other ones perhaps we ought to close this one?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on September 07, 2006, 03:42:39 PM
I was surprised how Charlie reacted at the end of season 2 finale when he got back from the hatch destruction. Then watching season 2 dvd, they show claire and charlie talking. She asks him a sereous question and he makes a joke. SHe says something like "you always try to be moderately ammusing when you don't want to answer a question" Maybe his reaction was always part of his character?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 07, 2006, 06:10:57 PM
I was surprised how Charlie reacted at the end of season 2 finale when he got back from the hatch destruction. Then watching season 2 dvd, they show claire and charlie talking. She asks him a sereous question and he makes a joke. SHe says something like "you always try to be moderately ammusing when you don't want to answer a question" Maybe his reaction was always part of his character?
so why didn't he go back and see if they were alive or stay and help them out?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on September 08, 2006, 11:59:14 PM
Maybe because he knew they were alive and didn't need help.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 09, 2006, 06:04:19 PM
Maybe because he knew they were alive and didn't need help.


Could be or maybe he didn't care?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on September 11, 2006, 04:25:05 AM
I was surprised how Charlie reacted at the end of season 2 finale when he got back from the hatch destruction. Then watching season 2 dvd, they show claire and charlie talking. She asks him a sereous question and he makes a joke. SHe says something like "you always try to be moderately ammusing when you don't want to answer a question" Maybe his reaction was always part of his character?
so why didn't he go back and see if they were alive or stay and help them out?

exactly...it was weird
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 12, 2006, 12:08:17 PM
I was surprised how Charlie reacted at the end of season 2 finale when he got back from the hatch destruction. Then watching season 2 dvd, they show claire and charlie talking. She asks him a sereous question and he makes a joke. SHe says something like "you always try to be moderately ammusing when you don't want to answer a question" Maybe his reaction was always part of his character?
so why didn't he go back and see if they were alive or stay and help them out?

exactly...it was weird

 more than weird  deliberate on his part....why?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on September 12, 2006, 12:26:38 PM
We will find out in 22 days.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 12, 2006, 01:09:47 PM
We will find out in 22 days.

or longer as we need his story to explain his actions.
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on September 12, 2006, 02:41:50 PM
We will find out in 22 days.

or longer as we need his story to explain his actions.

THink positely, we might actually learn something during the first show! ;D
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 12, 2006, 03:43:25 PM
We will find out in 22 days.

or longer as we need his story to explain his actions.

THink positely, we might actually learn something during the first show! ;D
OH I am I think this site will be flooded after first show like the finale. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on September 12, 2006, 10:03:22 PM
They regulars should have a placed saved in line!!
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 13, 2006, 01:02:01 PM
They regulars should have a placed saved in line!!

Oh I couldn't agree more ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on September 14, 2006, 07:34:12 AM
Do you think any of the newbies will be assclowns or dickmonkeys?

cheers
*Des8
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 14, 2006, 12:36:46 PM
Do you think any of the newbies will be assclowns or dickmonkeys?

cheers
*Des8

we were referring to us on siteas who shoudl have first crack at posting after premiere of season 3......
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on September 14, 2006, 09:18:55 PM
I joined during the summer hiatus.  Is it hard to get in here during the regular season?
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Desmond8MyPopRocks on September 14, 2006, 10:20:03 PM
SOL nope... not that I know of, but won't it be fun once S3 starts????

cheers
*Des8
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: jugdish on September 15, 2006, 09:22:30 AM
On occasion I have had trouble getting on right after a show. The posts are flying after a new episode. It is fun with a lot of activity. The rest of the time there is no problem getting on. Just a lot to read!
Title: Re: Charlie reaction at the end
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on September 20, 2006, 11:52:36 AM
I joined during the summer hiatus.  Is it hard to get in here during the regular season?

Some times as juggy referred to up above there were a few times right after we switched to the forum that after an episode aired,could not get on at all.Yet after the Finale we were able tog et on but wow those new topics were popping upl ike weeds,and trying to folllow them all: crazy.