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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 6 => Episode 6x16 => Topic started by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 05:48:39 PM

Title: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 05:48:39 PM
And the other religions were in second fiddle.  I thought that added a touch of class.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 25, 2010, 05:58:53 PM
And the other religions were in second fiddle.  I thought that added a touch of class.

LOL WTF are you talking about? In fact, I think the writers kind went out of their way to show it was a combination of allt he world's religions, you know, like in the stained glass window, or all the buddhas and pictures of Vishnu.

So, they had 1 character called Christian Shephard, that makes everything else 2nd fiddle? Please.

Try another angle. LOST is many things, but not Christian propaganda.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 06:06:02 PM
I am offended by your use of the word "propanganda".  The crucifix was the major religious symbol focused on during the church scene.  Review the tape...you monster!
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 25, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
You gotta be trolling.

Because along with the crucifix was a minora, Vishnu, Buddha, the crescent moon and star. I think they tried really hard to represent as many religions as possible.

By the way, how's that pure bullsh!t story you posted about a Lost movie workin out? lol
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: lostandfree on May 25, 2010, 06:15:11 PM
And the other religions were in second fiddle.  I thought that added a touch of class.

LOL WTF are you talking about? In fact, I think the writers kind went out of their way to show it was a combination of allt he world's religions, you know, like in the stained glass window, or all the buddhas and pictures of Vishnu.

So, they had 1 character called Christian Shephard, that makes everything else 2nd fiddle? Please.

Try another angle. LOST is many things, but not Christian propaganda.

Yeah, how was Christianity front and center?  The whole point was that they were meeting together in some kind of purgatory/limbo situation.  Christianity doesn't even believe in purgatory.  I think that's just a Catholic thing.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: MachThree on May 25, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
Can one of the mods please deal with this troll? 
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 07:49:24 PM
Caseymac...since you are such a hater of christianity, then explain the statue of Christ in front of the church.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: Hurley rocks dudes on May 25, 2010, 07:56:31 PM
as a christian, i'm going to say that the "sideways purgatory" (which wasn't purgatory) wasn't a christian reference. the writers did pay homage to all religions in the scene. it wasn't even purgatory because they weren't paying off their debts, they were just remembering. even if they claimed it was all a christian thing, they would have been way off base because in no way is that a "christian" belief.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
Thanks for the back up, Hurley.  We gotta stay together.  The persecutors are rampant.   peace COL Kurtz
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 25, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
thanks for the back up Hurley.  We Christians gotta stick together.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 25, 2010, 08:15:14 PM
LOL can somebody deal with this troll.

Kurtz is obviously being tongue in cheek. Too bad, he's the only one who thinks it's funny.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: lostandfree on May 25, 2010, 08:25:45 PM
I'm a Christian Kurtz and I completely disagree with whatever point you are trying to make.  As a Christian I would have never made the statement you opened this thread with.  Clearly you don't know what "class" is since your statement has none.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 25, 2010, 08:29:17 PM
I'm a Christian Kurtz and I completely disagree with whatever point you are trying to make.  As a Christian I would have never made the statement you opened this thread with.  Clearly you don't know what "class" is since your statement since your statement has none.

Don't get worked up. He's just trolling. Some people are just pathetic and get pleasure out of instigating. Don't play into his little game.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: jamesl on May 25, 2010, 08:59:52 PM
LOL can somebody deal with this troll.

Kurtz is obviously being tongue in cheek. Too bad, he's the only one who thinks it's funny.

I thought it was funny
its so outlandish, how could anyone take it seriously  ?
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: lostlady on May 25, 2010, 09:11:13 PM
I liked how the religions were given EQUAL billing. The diversity on Lost was great.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: lostfan777 on May 26, 2010, 09:42:34 AM
In Christianity, there are stories where gatherings of people are hearing the Word of God, whether through the Holy Spirit or the apostles, and they each hear it in their own language.  I loved how Lost seemed to be doing just that.  As a Christian, I saw the island as the Garden of Eden.  I theorized how MIB could be the fallen angel Satan (back before we knew he was just a man once).  A small part of me even wondered if Jacob was going to rise up again on the third day (boy was I way off on that one!) and after that weird 'madonna and child' dream sequence with Claire and Aaron (definitely Christian themed there, no doubt!) I thought Aaron was the second coming of the Messiah (another one just slightly off!).  But the point in the end was that we could all see the story from our own perspectives and translate the meaning to fit our own beliefs.  The only 'faith' that wasn't supported in the end was 'science'. 

Now that it's all over, I'd like to thank the members who've supported my 'Christian-leaning' posts (we did start off in the beginning with a dead guy named Christian Shephard!  Seriously, what was I supposed to think?!)  But also, thanks to the members who've politely disagreed without being insulting.  That's respect.  That's acceptance.  That's class.  That's what the world needs more of.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: bluesmanjay on May 26, 2010, 10:01:41 AM
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Yeah, how was Christianity front and center?  The whole point was that they were meeting together in some kind of purgatory/limbo situation.  Christianity doesn't even believe in purgatory.  I think that's just a Catholic thing.

LOL...This was kind of funny to me. "Christianity doesn't even believe in purgatory...I think that's just a Catholic thing." The reason it's so funny to me is Catholic's are Christian. To be Christian one has to be a follower and believer in Christ. Catholics are just that. Not sure why people seem to think Catholics are not part of Christendom. I'm not Catholic, but I am an ordained minister, and just wanted to throw my two cents in.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: lostfan777 on May 26, 2010, 10:22:35 AM
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Yeah, how was Christianity front and center?  The whole point was that they were meeting together in some kind of purgatory/limbo situation.  Christianity doesn't even believe in purgatory.  I think that's just a Catholic thing.

LOL...This was kind of funny to me. "Christianity doesn't even believe in purgatory...I think that's just a Catholic thing." The reason it's so funny to me is Catholic's are Christian. To be Christian one has to be a follower and believer in Christ. Catholics are just that. Not sure why people seem to think Catholics are not part of Christendom. I'm not Catholic, but I am an ordained minister, and just wanted to throw my two cents in.

lostandfree wasn't saying Catholics aren't Christians, just that not all Christians believe in Purgatory.  Different factions of Christians follow different beliefs, which is why there are soooooo many branches.  I've belonged to different congregations and I've seen major differences.  The Lutheran church for example, although they believe in the saints, they don't pray to them (not even to Mary) and they display no statues.  And their cross is just the cross, no body of Christ is displayed. 
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: COL Kurtz on May 26, 2010, 04:41:01 PM
The story was a Christian allegory.  Carlton Cuse stated that.  So all you non-believers - start believing or you will end up like Ben (not invited to the party).
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 26, 2010, 05:30:05 PM
The story was a Christian allegory.  Carlton Cuse stated that.  So all you non-believers - start believing or you will end up like Ben (not invited to the party).

Interview with Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof 2/12/08
Damon Lindelof: Well... we try to infuse the show with all sorts of religious allegory, depending on what kind of story we're telling.

The Eastern religion and mysticism is something that started coming up a lot as we talked about the Dharma Initiative... but the thinking was more, "What if these hippies from Ann Arbor, Michigan were kind of like the Beatles and thought a trip to India could spiritually rebirth them?"

Hopefully, when all is said and done, the themes of the show are hopefully universally spiritual... at least that's what we're going for.


Can one of the mods do something about this COL Kurtz guy? He just goes around posting pure bullsh!t like a Lost Movie is in the works, or Carlton Cuse said Lost is a Christian allegory. Kurtz is clearly just trolling trying to instigate an arguement by posting misinformation.

Word of advice to anyone else, don't get sucked into Kurtz's little game.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: NoraCharles on May 26, 2010, 05:36:12 PM
The story was a Christian allegory.  Carlton Cuse stated that.  So all you non-believers - start believing or you will end up like Ben (not invited to the party).

Col Kurtz, I wonder exactly what finale you were watching, because I did not see what you claimed to see.  The church was not primarily Christian (as the stained glass window and all the relics showed) and Ben was indeed invited, Hurley asked him but Ben declined his invitation.

Perhaps you should contact your cable/satellite provider and straighten this out, as your channels must be crossed.

And thank you for being concerned about my well being, but I'll take my chances as a non-believer.
Have a super day!
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CaseyMac on May 26, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
The story was a Christian allegory.  Carlton Cuse stated that.  So all you non-believers - start believing or you will end up like Ben (not invited to the party).

Col Kurtz, I wonder exactly what finale you were watching, because I did not see what you claimed to see.  The church was not primarily Christian (as the stained glass window and all the relics showed) and Ben was indeed invited, Hurley asked him but Ben declined his invitation.

Perhaps you should contact your cable/satellite provider and straighten this out, as your channels must be crossed.

And thank you for being concerned about my well being, but I'll take my chances as a non-believer.
Have a super day!


NC, this is exactly the kind of reaction Kurtz is trying to instigate. He's what we call a "troll". Somebody that goes around in forums posting garbage trying to pick a fight. The best thing to do is just not feed into it. We all know the absurdity of what he is saying, so don't get worked up over it. It's what he wants.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: bfth on May 26, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
Not to address the troll, but Ben WAS invited to the party.  He just chose not to go in...he wasn't ready yet.  But he was invited.  By Hurley.
Title: Re: I like that Christianity was front and center in the afterlife.
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 26, 2010, 06:48:13 PM
This is going nowhere. Locked.