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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 6 => Episode 6x16 => Topic started by: lostandfree on May 24, 2010, 04:05:17 AM

Title: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostandfree on May 24, 2010, 04:05:17 AM
During the credits.

I didn't get that part.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Kane on May 24, 2010, 04:16:06 AM
I think that was just a fond farewell to the wreck that started the whole thing...but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: CrashandCari on May 24, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
That was my take on it as well. 
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostjava on May 24, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
I think they were showing that everyone actually died in the crash.

The plane is there.  It hasn't been scavanged for parts to make camp.  No sign of anyone around.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: jumbotron on May 24, 2010, 09:45:25 AM
I'm going to pretend that part of the show didn't happen.  I like the way it ended and I don't need any more mysteries!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostlady on May 24, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
I think that was just a fond farewell to the wreck that started the whole thing...but I could be wrong.
That's what I'm going with..
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostfan777 on May 24, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
I think that was the 'secret scene' they've been talking about.  And it was the only part of the finale I hated!  I was so pleased with the (predictable) closing eye final scene and then that last one opened up a can of worms.

No, I don't think everyone died on the original flight and the last six years never happened.  I took it, as most did I think, that the ATL was the 'purgatory' that everyone went to after they died, on the island or off, soon after the crash or later, or MANY years after in some cases.  The crash and everything else happened and they met up in the ATL to 'let go' and 'move on' together.  Beautifully done.  So was that last image just the remains of the plane?  What was the point in showing that to us again?

My next thought was that the Ajira plane was never able to 'escape' the island and crashed right back on the beach, killing Kate, Sawyer, etc.  Jack died happy thinking they were saved but only Hurley and Ben were really left, #1 and #2.  That would make sense for the protection of the island, I guess, but I didn't see anything that clearly marked the plane as Ajira.  And I would rather think that a few of them went on to live out their lives and die naturally later, and that they could then meet up with everyone in the ATL before moving on.

My last thought was that it was another crash altogether, in the future, to show that Hurley and Ben went on as Jacob and Richard had for so many years, dealing with newcomers to the island and protecting the light.  This would play along with Hurley and Ben's conversation that suggested they spent time together in charge of the island and they dealt with 'something' along the way that made them good at it.  The only difference would be that they had no existing smoke monster trying to kill Hurley.  Their objective would be to keep anyone who crashed on the island from finding the cave and becoming a new smoke monster or putting out the light altogether.  I'm not crazy about this theory either because then it takes away from the definitive 'end' with Jack closing his eyes.  We know that Hurley went on as protector, but I don't want to be reminded in the final image that there is a whole new storyline that could be developed.

Whatever it meant, I didn't need it.  I almost wish my DVR had cut out before I even saw it!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: BurkRoyer on May 24, 2010, 12:40:40 PM
It came after the "Lost" boom!  So I didn't consider it as part of the story other than a homage to the show in general...
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostlady on May 24, 2010, 12:41:19 PM
It came after the "Lost" boom!  So I didn't consider it as part of the story other than a homage to show in general...
Agree!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: MachThree on May 24, 2010, 01:07:38 PM
Ack!  My DVR stopped during "Bad Robot".  Do I even want to see this scene?  If so, anyone know if its on youtube or anything?
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on May 24, 2010, 01:12:09 PM
Yeah it wasn't even really a SCENE. More of two stills. A homage to a show that started out with a plane crash on an island turned into this epic event that became bigger than anyone could have possibly imagined.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 24, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
maybe it was an answer to one of the oldest questions we had: what happened to the wreckage? It didn't float out to sea and sink, it just went down island to another beach! It's been there all along!



;D
:D
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: CaseyMac on May 24, 2010, 01:56:36 PM
Yeah, don't read too much into that I think. Lost started with that set, so it was just a little nod to all the fans to remind us how far we've come and give us a moment of quiet reflection of what we've seen.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: opgelost on May 24, 2010, 01:57:05 PM
Ack!  My DVR stopped during "Bad Robot".  Do I even want to see this scene?  If so, anyone know if its on youtube or anything?

I didn't see it either.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Gutterball94 on May 24, 2010, 02:18:02 PM
There are 3 still shots.

I choose to believe that it is a tribute to what launched it all.

If you look closely though, the second still seems to have foot prints in the sand, while the third still seems to have a little hut assembled from wreckage.

I don't think that it's proof of everyone dying a fiery death in the original crash.

REMEMBER THAT CHRISTIAN SAID: "Everyone dies, kiddo. Some before you, some long after"
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Madam P on May 24, 2010, 03:22:09 PM
Jack died happy thinking they were saved but only Hurley and Ben were really left, #1 and #2. 

And Rose and Bernard.  Don't forget them.  And Vincent.  Maybe they can be the new "Others" -- they've already got the ratty clothes and beard and all. 
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on May 24, 2010, 03:50:33 PM
Jack died happy thinking they were saved but only Hurley and Ben were really left, #1 and #2. 

And Rose and Bernard.  Don't forget them.  And Vincent.  Maybe they can be the new "Others" -- they've already got the ratty clothes and beard and all. 
lol that is a great idea!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: RM on May 25, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.

Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: CaseyMac on May 25, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.



Exactly, if it was supposed to be an OMG there would have been some dramatic music. There was also 1 other thing missing....THERE WERE NO BODIES.

It's exactly like RM and alot of others have said, just an empty set to roll the credits on.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostlady on May 25, 2010, 05:25:01 PM
The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.



Exactly, if it was supposed to be an OMG there would have been some dramatic music. There was also 1 other thing missing....THERE WERE NO BODIES.

It's exactly like RM and alot of others have said, just an empty set to roll the credits on.

Yes, I liked it. Now in addition to a old slaving ship, a 4 toed statue, hatches, and some cabins and swingsets there are remnents of a plane crash. The next group of survivors will have one more mystery to solve than our Losties did!!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostandfree on May 25, 2010, 06:12:03 PM
The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.



This was my first thought when I saw it so I will stick with that.  Good point that it was after the "LOST", I didn't think about that, but that makes me feel better about the fact that it didn't have any hidden meaning for the show.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: NoraCharles on May 25, 2010, 07:18:07 PM
If it's not a tribute to the beginning, it's the wreckage of the next plane to crash on the island (you know the plane that brought whoever Hurley chose to succeed him!)

SPINOFF!
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: WhatThe on May 25, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
I think that was just a fond farewell to the wreck that started the whole thing...but I could be wrong.

It came after the "Lost" boom!  So I didn't consider it as part of the story other than a homage to the show in general...

Yeah it wasn't even really a SCENE. More of two stills. A homage to a show that started out with a plane crash on an island turned into this epic event that became bigger than anyone could have possibly imagined.

Yeah, don't read too much into that I think. Lost started with that set, so it was just a little nod to all the fans to remind us how far we've come and give us a moment of quiet reflection of what we've seen.

There are 3 still shots.

I choose to believe that it is a tribute to what launched it all.

If you look closely though, the second still seems to have foot prints in the sand, while the third still seems to have a little hut assembled from wreckage.

I don't think that it's proof of everyone dying a fiery death in the original crash.

REMEMBER THAT CHRISTIAN SAID: "Everyone dies, kiddo. Some before you, some long after"

The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.

The plane wreckage shots were shown as the credits rolled (and after "LOST", as was pointed out).

Lots of series finales end with a shot of an empty set for sentimental reasons.  I took it as that, and not a part of the actual storyline.



Exactly, if it was supposed to be an OMG there would have been some dramatic music. There was also 1 other thing missing....THERE WERE NO BODIES.

It's exactly like RM and alot of others have said, just an empty set to roll the credits on.

All of this *nod*...
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostfan777 on May 26, 2010, 09:18:45 AM
Thank you all for the reassuring posts.  I don't have to lie awake at night now and wonder what it meant!   ;D
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostlady on May 26, 2010, 09:21:55 AM
Thank you all for the reassuring posts.  I don't have to lie awake at night now and wonder what it meant!   ;D

So I am not the only one!! After the finale, I kept waking up all night with random thoughts about the finale.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Adriana on May 27, 2010, 01:49:16 AM
Thank you all for the reassuring posts.  I don't have to lie awake at night now and wonder what it meant!   ;D

So I am not the only one!! After the finale, I kept waking up all night with random thoughts about the finale.

Ah, me too!!! Had at least a couple puzzled walks to the bathroom to fill up my water cup, thinking about the church and the light.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: NoraCharles on May 27, 2010, 05:51:16 PM
Just an FYI: My local ABC news ran a story this morning saying TPTB say the end was nothing more than just wreckage from 815, no big deal at all.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: jugdish on May 27, 2010, 08:01:06 PM
Just an FYI: My local ABC news ran a story this morning saying TPTB say the end was nothing more than just wreckage from 815, no big deal at all.
This is true. It was added by abc and they had the waves crashing to make the whole scenerio pleasent. They thought this was needed after the emotional 2.5 hours show. Darlton had nothing to do with this being aired.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: lostandfree on May 27, 2010, 10:35:51 PM
Just an FYI: My local ABC news ran a story this morning saying TPTB say the end was nothing more than just wreckage from 815, no big deal at all.
This is true. It was added by abc and they had the waves crashing to make the whole scenerio pleasent. They thought this was needed after the emotional 2.5 hours show. Darlton had nothing to do with this being aired.

Funny since this footage was the thing that bothered me the most about the whole episode.  Even now that I know it wasn't part of the show it still bothers me, and I wish it hadn't been there.
Title: Re: What was with the crash scene at the end?
Post by: Madam P on May 28, 2010, 10:29:01 AM
Just an FYI: My local ABC news ran a story this morning saying TPTB say the end was nothing more than just wreckage from 815, no big deal at all.
This is true. It was added by abc and they had the waves crashing to make the whole scenerio pleasent. They thought this was needed after the emotional 2.5 hours show. Darlton had nothing to do with this being aired.

Yeah, I read something on DocArzt that said ABC announced that it was just an "empty set scenario" to allow viewers to decompress before they were thrown into the evening news.  I didn't know Darlton had nothing to do with it being aired, though.  That seems weird.  The very final thing of their series and they had nothing to do with it?  Strange.  I guess normally the "credits roll" is accompanied by either "next week on LOST" which obviously would be a no, or sometimes it's "coming up next on ABC"... so maybe the writers really don't have any input in that part.  I would think they should've had in this situation, though....