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Title: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: shadow on April 21, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
Locke survives the operation.
Sawyer is sent to the hospital to interview him as part of the investigation.
Juliet shows up to pick up David.
Sawyer and Juliet talk about getting a cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: on the island on April 21, 2010, 10:16:04 AM
I like it.  I've been trying to figure out why they would be so mysterious about Jack's wife.  That is as good a theory as I've heard.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostlady on April 21, 2010, 10:19:34 AM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Lost In NH on April 21, 2010, 10:19:55 AM
Locke survives the operation.
Sawyer is sent to the hospital to interview him as part of the investigation.
Juliet shows up to pick up David.
Sawyer and Juliet talk about getting a cup of coffee.

wouldnt' it be more likely that Sawyer would come to the hospital to interview (with a translator) Sun and Jin, who were at the shooting?  They just arrested Sayid, so they would be investigating the shootings at the restaurant.

But I like the Juliet connection.  They have to include her in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Writers_Strike on April 21, 2010, 10:23:45 AM
Nah it will end up being Danielle Russoe, David and Alex are related. Juliet will be a lawyer for Kate, or one of the Feds.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
I agree that it will be Juliet and she'll meet sawyer at the hospital, where he will be questioning Sun and Jin because the video will also show them arriving after Sayid left.

Nah it will end up being Danielle Russoe, David and Alex are related. Juliet will be a lawyer for Kate, or one of the Feds.

I think you are confusing Juliet with her character on 'V' where she is a fed!   ;D  As for Danielle, I read somewhere that there will be a new love connection before the end that no one will see coming.  You just gave me the idea that it will be Danielle and........wait for it........Ben!  Ben will become Alex's 'father' in the sideways line!

Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: shadow on April 21, 2010, 10:37:32 AM
wouldnt' it be more likely that Sawyer would come to the hospital to interview (with a translator) Sun and Jin, who were at the shooting?  They just arrested Sayid, so they would be investigating the shootings at the restaurant.

Yeah ... that probably works better.

I was trying to think how to tie up Locke's story into it, too. But maybe instead of guessing that he survive, it is simply enough that Jack has to stay in the OR working on him well past 7 pm, thus Juliet needs to come to the hospital to pick David up. Sawyer is there as part of an investigation...
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Writers_Strike on April 21, 2010, 10:39:02 AM
with 4 episodes left, unless there is a relationship in progress I don't think they have time for Ben and Danielle love connection. There is time for Sawer and Jules to get a cup of coffee.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 11:07:55 AM
Another possibility for Juliet could be that she is at the hospital bacause Sun is pregnant, but I'm still leaning towards her being David's mother.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
with 4 episodes left, unless there is a relationship in progress I don't think they have time for Ben and Danielle love connection. There is time for Sawer and Jules to get a cup of coffee.

As they bring the two timelines together, thay are going to have to tie up alot of loose ends such as Kate's guilt/innocence, Claire's decision about keeping Aaron, Locke's operation, Sayid's fate, etc.  We know we'll be seeing Juliet again and I think most of us agree it will be with Sawyer.  I think Ben's story will have to be concluded also.  He has been such a major character and I don't think his decision to choose Alex's future over his own was enough closure.  I think his story deserves a few minutes of air time in the finale.  They'll give him that much, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on April 21, 2010, 11:19:45 AM
My initial thought is Juliet...that is who I think it will be!
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostlady on April 21, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
Another possibility for Juliet could be that she is at the hospital bacause Sun is pregnant, but I'm still leaning towards her being David's mother.

I would think she is the doctor and Sawyer is in the room questioning Sun or Jin and she walks in
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: bfth on April 21, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
So David's mom turns out to be Juliet, who has coffee with Sawyer and then Jack ends up with Kate?

How about if David's mom turns out to be...

NIKKI! 

(Just kidding)
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: RM on April 21, 2010, 12:51:25 PM
I agree that Juliet makes the most sense.

Sarah was pregnant in 2004 O, right?  but the timing is wrong for David to be 12 in 2004 X.  Plus, he doesn't even meet Sarah in the X timeline without a car crash involving Boone/Shannon's father, right?  (I can't remember any more.)

Still trying to figure out how Jack and Kate wind up together in X.  I guess she's the only friend Claire has in L.A. and Jack just met his sister.  Maybe Kate will get legal represenation from Ilana or something..

Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: bastor on April 21, 2010, 01:14:53 PM
Locke survives the operation.
Sawyer is sent to the hospital to interview him as part of the investigation.
Juliet shows up to pick up David.
Sawyer and Juliet talk about getting a cup of coffee.
You just read the spoilers :P (about the whole David's Mother part)... :P I have no info on the coffee part
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on April 21, 2010, 01:19:13 PM
please no spoilers up here....just guesses-I want to be surprised please  ;)
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 01:24:32 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: bastor on April 21, 2010, 01:25:52 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
Well on-island Jack was not that intimate with Juliet from what I remember....I mean no "true love" thing.....
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 21, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
Yeah I think Juliet as the mother makes the most sense. She didn't work out with Jack, kind of like on the island, and will end up getting coffee with Sawyer.

Also, if someone makes a prediction in a thread, and you happen to have read something on a spoiler site at all that confirms the guess, PLEASE do not bring it up. THAT is a spoiler, a correct guess is not. Thank you.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 21, 2010, 01:28:44 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
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Yeah I think this goes in to the "True Love" thing. Juliet and Jack were not meant to be together so they did not have that Spark
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 01:29:38 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
Well on-island Jack was not that intimate with Juliet from what I remember....I mean no "true love" thing.....

Sun wasn't intimate with Locke, but she remembered him.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 21, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
Well on-island Jack was not that intimate with Juliet from what I remember....I mean no "true love" thing.....

Sun wasn't intimate with Locke, but she remembered him.

Touche. Unless HE is the one who tries, or succeeds, in killing them on the Island. That could be a pretty intimate experience, although on the Yang side of the spectrum.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: bastor on April 21, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
Sun wasn't intimate with Locke, but she remembered him.
Fear is quite the strong emotion ^^ And we still are not sure where she remembered him from.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: zeekloveslost on April 21, 2010, 01:41:20 PM
Although Love is obviously important, it is not necessarily what makes the Losties remember the other timeline. Des had a flash memory of Charlie's death when Charlie made the car go into the water.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: shadow on April 21, 2010, 01:41:43 PM
You just read the spoilers :P (about the whole David's Mother part)... :P I have no info on the coffee part

Nope ... no spoiler. Just kinda makes sense when you look at it as it was revealed in the episodes:

Sun gets shot - (3/4 eps back) Guess she and Jin are going to the hospital and run into Jack.
Locke gets run over - (2 eps back) Guess he's going to the same hospital.
Ben in ambulance (last ep) - He's probably in the waiting room at the hospital.
Sawyer / Miles - (last ep) Police are probably going to have to do some investigation at the hospital.
Jack / David - (last ep) End up at hospital.
David's Mom - (last ep, foreshadow) Will probably have to end up at hospital to pick up David.

Given the limited number of eps left, you have to assume that she is going to be someone we know. Juliet really is the only "holdout" in the ATL.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: CaseyMac on April 21, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.

Well, the same arguement can be made about Jin and Sun too. I think it might be exlained in that it is more mystical than mathematical. Perhaps they were only able to remember after Flight 815? I mean Jin and Sun certainly had an intimate moment since the flight, but we did see Jin gazing deep in thought that following morning, then Sun staring in the mirror, and now Sun remembering Locke. So, they may have started remembering too, just doing their normal keep-it-to-yourself routine.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 21, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.

Well, the same arguement can be made about Jin and Sun too. I think it might be exlained in that it is more mystical than mathematical. Perhaps they were only able to remember after Flight 815? I mean Jin and Sun certainly had an intimate moment since the flight, but we did see Jin gazing deep in thought that following morning, then Sun staring in the mirror, and now Sun remembering Locke. So, they may have started remembering too, just doing their normal keep-it-to-yourself routine.

True. Sun's mirror look was weird. Not much motivation to bring out hallucinations if they are just that.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 21, 2010, 02:02:09 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.

Well, the same arguement can be made about Jin and Sun too. I think it might be exlained in that it is more mystical than mathematical. Perhaps they were only able to remember after Flight 815? I mean Jin and Sun certainly had an intimate moment since the flight, but we did see Jin gazing deep in thought that following morning, then Sun staring in the mirror, and now Sun remembering Locke. So, they may have started remembering too, just doing their normal keep-it-to-yourself routine.

Good point, I completely forgot that even Jin and Sun should have memories of each other from the island coming back to them!  I guess it isn't just a touch or a kiss, and it isn't necessary to have a near death experience, it just happens!  Like I said, a little sloppy, but I'm enjoying the ride.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: CaseyMac on April 21, 2010, 02:14:20 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.

Well, the same arguement can be made about Jin and Sun too. I think it might be exlained in that it is more mystical than mathematical. Perhaps they were only able to remember after Flight 815? I mean Jin and Sun certainly had an intimate moment since the flight, but we did see Jin gazing deep in thought that following morning, then Sun staring in the mirror, and now Sun remembering Locke. So, they may have started remembering too, just doing their normal keep-it-to-yourself routine.

Good point, I completely forgot that even Jin and Sun should have memories of each other from the island coming back to them!  I guess it isn't just a touch or a kiss, and it isn't necessary to have a near death experience, it just happens!  Like I said, a little sloppy, but I'm enjoying the ride.

Yeah, I always liked physics more than quantum physics because it was alot cleaner. However, the whole side-verse thing fits pretty well in the trippy quantum physics world.

Another point about it maybe being Juliet...the past 2 weeks now, on the Island, we've seen Jack talking about his regret over Juliet. Perhaps the writers are invoking her name to keep her fresh in our minds for when she pops up out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: RM on April 23, 2010, 11:50:12 AM
Perhaps they were only able to remember after Flight 815?

I agree.  Even though thinks in X were different before the flight.  The cusp point between O and X is definitely 815 flying over the Island and crashing.  So maybe the memory bleeds have only started after the point they passed over the Island.

Can't remember -- did Jack looking into the mirror on the plane happen before or after they showed us that the Island was actually under water?
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 23, 2010, 12:57:20 PM
Jack's mirror look happened after I believe.
Flying over the island certainly could be the meld point.
Yeah with them keeping Juliet's name in our minds, I think she will soon show up. I think she's going to be David's mother.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: sillysab on April 23, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
One thing that bothers me is that if it is Juliet (and I think it is), wouldn't Jack have remembered the island when he met her or kissed her for the first time like everyone else has been doing?  How is it that he doesn't remember knowing her?  I'm really enjoying these last shows but I think they are slapping everything together a little too quickly and being very sloppy about it and some things are just not going to make sense.
agreed. to me it seems like people who died on the island (like Juliet, Charlie, Libby) also have these "island memories" first in the alt timeline, then reconnect with someone still alive on the island (like Des, Hurley) and pass it on. why wouldn't Juliet do this for Jack?
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 23, 2010, 01:28:56 PM
It does seem like the dead are remembering it first. Maybe Charlotte (sp) just didn't see Daniel. 
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: BurkRoyer on April 23, 2010, 03:42:06 PM
Juliet has to be David's mother... Who else is there?  It's not Sarah
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: CaseyMac on April 23, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
Ana Lucia? or Bai Ling? or perhaps special guest star Phyllis Diller?
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: darinfic on April 23, 2010, 05:21:29 PM
i think the seed was planted for juliet to be david's mother back on hydra island in season 3. remember ben remarking how much she looked like jack's ex-wife.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Madam P on April 23, 2010, 05:52:52 PM
Locke survives the operation.
Sawyer is sent to the hospital to interview him as part of the investigation.
Juliet shows up to pick up David.
Sawyer and Juliet talk about getting a cup of coffee.

Very very nice!  I like it.  It makes total sense that Jack would've met Juliet either in medical school or somehow in the medical profession, and they could've married and had David.  And it explains why they've kept "mom's" name such a big guarded secret up to now...

Plus, it will tie up the issue of Jack just leaving his kid to wander around the hospital while he's doing a twelve-hour surgery on Locke.  "So.... you'll be OK here, right?"   ::)   I mean, I know the kid isn't a toddler nor is he a delinquent, but I wouldn't leave him by himself in a hospital for x-amount of hours... 
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: BurkRoyer on April 26, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
Juliet has to be David's mother... Who else is there?  It's not Sarah
Ana Lucia? or Bai Ling? or perhaps special guest star Phyllis Diller?
I don't think his genetic features lend themselves to Ana Lucia or Bai Ling being his mother.  Plus, if his mother was someone yet to be introduces, they wouldn't hide that from us...
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 26, 2010, 04:58:47 PM
his genetic features lend themselves to Ana Lucia or Bai Ling being his mother. 

What Genetic features might you be speaking of.....haha. Kidding. Yeah I think Elizabeth Mitchell should be seen shortly
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: CaseyMac on April 26, 2010, 06:02:09 PM
You know this show needs a love scene between Phyllis Diller and Mathew Fox.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: CaseyMac on April 26, 2010, 06:49:59 PM
Not to shake the hornet's nest, but if David's mom does turn out to be Juliet in the next episode or 2, would that pretty much put the nail in the coffin for the David = MIB theory?  You know, considering how MIB said his mom had gone crazy.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 26, 2010, 06:57:52 PM
I certainly effing hope so. Time to send that theory out to pasture.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: opgelost on April 28, 2010, 02:32:16 PM
Not to shake the hornet's nest, but if David's mom does turn out to be Juliet in the next episode or 2, would that pretty much put the nail in the coffin for the David = MIB theory?  You know, considering how MIB said his mom had gone crazy.

I think it is Juliet. It is the only one we have not seen yet in the other timeline.
Let's first see how sane she is in the LAXtimeline.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 29, 2010, 10:41:30 AM
Apparently David's mom being Juliet doesn't quite disqualify him as being MiB for some of the members here. Looks like we have another week of this.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: grizn0 on April 29, 2010, 11:34:20 AM
Not to shake the hornet's nest, but if David's mom does turn out to be Juliet in the next episode or 2, would that pretty much put the nail in the coffin for the David = MIB theory?  You know, considering how MIB said his mom had gone crazy.

I think it is Juliet. It is the only one we have not seen yet in the other timeline.
Let's first see how sane she is in the LAXtimeline.

So you think Juliet is going to be crazy in the LAX timeline? Why would she be crazy? What could have possibly happened to her? In the shots of Jack talking to (the mother) on the phone it didn't sound like she was crazy from his side of the conversation.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 29, 2010, 12:21:25 PM
Yeah I think this is an instance of trying to convince yourself of absolutely anything to try keep your theory a possibility. Now Juliet MAY be having some flashes of James pretty soon, so she may start to think she is crazy, but she's not going to be locked up in an asylum or anything.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: grizn0 on April 29, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
Yeah its a total reach. Mib is just that.. the MIB. He isn't going to be anyone we "know" like one of the losties or they're children or whatever. I can't wait for "Across The Sea" so we can finally put all of this to rest.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 29, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
Yeah its a total reach. Mib is just that.. the MIB. He isn't going to be anyone we "know" like one of the losties or they're children or whatever. I can't wait for "Across The Sea" so we can finally put all of this to rest.

Completely agree. The day after that will be a very happy day for me.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Madam P on April 30, 2010, 12:18:27 PM
I shared this original theory with a friend, and she liked it, but thought maybe rather than Juliet being David's mother, she would be some sort of OB/GYN specialist that is called in on the case because of Sun having been shot in her pregnant belly.  I like that, too, so I'm just throwing it out there...

Of course, there's nothing to preclude her being both David's mom and the OB/GYN specialist that's called in for Sun...
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: lostfan777 on April 30, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
I shared this original theory with a friend, and she liked it, but thought maybe rather than Juliet being David's mother, she would be some sort of OB/GYN specialist that is called in on the case because of Sun having been shot in her pregnant belly.  I like that, too, so I'm just throwing it out there...

Of course, there's nothing to preclude her being both David's mom and the OB/GYN specialist that's called in for Sun...

In addition to being a mother and OBGYN, she also started a home baked goods business, but that went under when she kept burning all the muffins!   ;D

(http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/s/D/-/-/burnt-muffins.jpg)
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 30, 2010, 12:42:39 PM
Definately could be a specialist at the hospital and David's mom. I like that theory too. Not sure if they are going to have her working at THAT hospital though. Not that it is too far fetched for Lost, but I think they are going to try to keep her identity secret for quite a while. Maybe until the Finale. Or just before maybe.
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Creflo on April 30, 2010, 01:32:35 PM
i think the seed was planted for juliet to be david's mother ...

No pun intended?
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 30, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
i think the seed was planted for juliet to be david's mother ...

No pun intended?


BA-Zing
Title: Re: Prediction: David's Mother
Post by: Madam P on May 01, 2010, 02:17:23 AM
In addition to being a mother and OBGYN, she also started a home baked goods business, but that went under when she kept burning all the muffins!   ;D


Don't forget the two classes she teaches on the side at the community college -- Latin 301 and Basic Automobile Repair.  And her recent article in Scientific American on atomic bombs.  That Juliet... what a multi-talented gal!