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Title: Whispers
Post by: lostgirl2 on April 13, 2010, 11:20:43 PM
So, we finally got an answer about the whispers.... but they must have some kind of power... warning others, taking or moving others to where they need to go....could Christian be a whisper or is he MIB?

Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: misseko815 on April 13, 2010, 11:24:10 PM
Or perhaps he has been both.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: jugdish on April 14, 2010, 12:22:32 AM
That was a big reveal. Whispers are not controlled by the Others. It looked that way for awhile. Guess they are just roaming around helping the good guys..... we hope!
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: PMMJ on April 14, 2010, 12:24:06 AM
Jah, I suspect is was the ghosts warning people something was about to happen. Hence why they appear right before a number of tense circumstances...
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: Maxor127 on April 14, 2010, 12:26:21 AM
Has been one of my top mysteries.  Glad they addressed that, although it was handled kind of clumsily.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: tonysee200x on April 14, 2010, 12:28:29 AM
For reference, lostpedia has transcripts for the whispers here.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Whisper_transcripts (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Whisper_transcripts)
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: jugdish on April 14, 2010, 12:30:49 AM
I thought it was done ok. Hurley became aware and they made it a quick discussion on it. Not to forced.

Most of the whispers were about if the people saw them and what they should do. It fits that they were just observing what was going on.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: becksmex on April 14, 2010, 12:38:08 AM
Still, I wish they would address the question of why Hurley is able to see dead people...the fact that clued him into what the whispers were. 

Not bad, though.  The reveal makes me wonder how many ghosts are haunting the lost island.  Sort of a purgatory after all!
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 12:51:43 AM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostfan777 on April 14, 2010, 12:52:30 AM
Has been one of my top mysteries.  Glad they addressed that, although it was handled kind of clumsily.

Exactly what I was thinking.  I know Hurley's always been the voice of the viewer, but in that scene he really sounded like a fan asking one of the actors for a scoop!   :D
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: blueeyed2200 on April 14, 2010, 01:49:00 AM
So, we finally got an answer about the whispers.... but they must have some kind of power... warning others, taking or moving others to where they need to go....could Christian be a whisper or is he MIB?


Or perhaps he has been both.
That was my thought exactly!
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 11:54:40 AM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 12:28:30 PM
Yeah that's true. It makes it a little funky, but that's just one of those things we are just going to have to deal with being left unanswered.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 12:31:43 PM
Yeah that's true. It makes it a little funky, but that's just one of those things we are just going to have to deal with being left unanswered.

I hope not.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 12:34:01 PM
Me too. I'm just preparing myself for some "It Just Does" explaination.

"How's the Posi-track on the rear end of a Plymouth work? It Just Does."
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: rhythm on April 14, 2010, 12:48:46 PM
well...I was starting to think that maybe Dave wasn't imaginery...maybe he was a ghost.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: Des on April 14, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
I loved the answer of the whispers. So simple. No debating whether that was really the answer or not. It just is.

As for why Hurley can see/talk to dead people... come on, it's a sci-fi show. They're not going to be able to explain/answer everything.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 12:55:00 PM
Could be. Yeah if that turns out to be one of the instances where he saw a spirit before he was one of the 6. Hmm. Interesting. I think it is more likely that Dave was MiB in disguise with the way he tried to get Hurley to off himself. OR HOW ABOUT THIS. Just came to me. What if Dave was JACOB. Stay with me here. Candidates can't kill themselves right? What if Jacob was trying to help Hurley Realize that he was a candidate and all. Is flimsy, but a possibility in my book.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
Could be. Yeah if that turns out to be one of the instances where he saw a spirit before he was one of the 6. Hmm. Interesting. I think it is more likely that Dave was MiB in disguise with the way he tried to get Hurley to off himself. OR HOW ABOUT THIS. Just came to me. What if Dave was JACOB. Stay with me here. Candidates can't kill themselves right? What if Jacob was trying to help Hurley Realize that he was a candidate and all. Is flimsy, but a possibility in my book.

Yikes, that is really thin. You might find some people willing to believe that, but I still stand firm that Dave was a hallucination/figment of Hurley's imagination. That's sort of what the whole episode "Dave" was about.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: RM on April 14, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
Yeah.  I had been leaning towards the Whispers being connected to MIB (but I guess he has his own distinct sound).  But we've been told that MIB can no longer appear as anyone other than Locke.  So this Michael is definitely not MIB.  (But he seemed to be giving Hurley advice, which is [A] non-Jacob-like, as Richard pointed out; and seemed to be in sync with what MIB wants, i.e., don't blow up the plane.)

Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
Yeah and I think it is this contact with Michael that is going to lead to Hurley making a decision that alot of people are going to die. Kind of the predicament we saw in The Incident.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: opgelost on April 14, 2010, 03:33:19 PM
Yeah.  I had been leaning towards the Whispers being connected to MIB (but I guess he has his own distinct sound).  But we've been told that MIB can no longer appear as anyone other than Locke.  So this Michael is definitely not MIB.  (But he seemed to be giving Hurley advice, which is [A] non-Jacob-like, as Richard pointed out; and seemed to be in sync with what MIB wants, i.e., don't blow up the plane.)

Michael also showed them the way to find MIB.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 03:52:12 PM
Yeah.  I had been leaning towards the Whispers being connected to MIB (but I guess he has his own distinct sound).  But we've been told that MIB can no longer appear as anyone other than Locke.  So this Michael is definitely not MIB.  (But he seemed to be giving Hurley advice, which is [A] non-Jacob-like, as Richard pointed out; and seemed to be in sync with what MIB wants, i.e., don't blow up the plane.)

Michael also showed them the way to find MIB.

Yeah and sent them on their way to MiB who is trying to kill every last one of them. Mark my words. You are going to be shocked when MiB carries out his plan of trying to kill all the losties. I Hope you come on here and try to defend MiB whenever that happens too. You are already doing it with the Desmond thing. Why would MiB ask Des why he isn't afraid if there is no reason TO be afraid. Immediately afterwards throws him down a well.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostandfree on April 14, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: MachThree on April 14, 2010, 03:57:36 PM
You know, it is interesting - the last time Hurley saw Michael, he had just finished killing Anna, his love-to-be Libby and led himself and Jack, Kate and Sawyer right into a trap.  Why does he trust Michael's ghost?
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 03:58:02 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.

I like this idea. Hopping on board
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 04:01:20 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.

Just doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense that he could talk to dead people the whole time, but just didn't because he didn't have to.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: opgelost on April 14, 2010, 04:44:09 PM
Yeah.  I had been leaning towards the Whispers being connected to MIB (but I guess he has his own distinct sound).  But we've been told that MIB can no longer appear as anyone other than Locke.  So this Michael is definitely not MIB.  (But he seemed to be giving Hurley advice, which is [A] non-Jacob-like, as Richard pointed out; and seemed to be in sync with what MIB wants, i.e., don't blow up the plane.)

Michael also showed them the way to find MIB.

Yeah and sent them on their way to MiB who is trying to kill every last one of them. Mark my words. You are going to be shocked when MiB carries out his plan of trying to kill all the losties. I Hope you come on here and try to defend MiB whenever that happens too. You are already doing it with the Desmond thing. Why would MiB ask Des why he isn't afraid if there is no reason TO be afraid. Immediately afterwards throws him down a well.

I will be here my love. Will you be here too if MIB turns out to be the good one and David Shepard?
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostandfree on April 14, 2010, 04:50:31 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.

Just doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense that he could talk to dead people the whole time, but just didn't because he didn't have to.

Well, he doesn't talk to dead people at will.  THEY appear to HIM so I don't think he has any control over when they show up.  THEY were choosing to talk to him when he was ready to take on his mission (the second trip).
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.

Just doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense that he could talk to dead people the whole time, but just didn't because he didn't have to.

Well, he doesn't talk to dead people at will.  THEY appear to HIM so I don't think he has any control over when they show up.  THEY were choosing to talk to him when he was ready to take on his mission (the second trip).

Okay, I can understand that, but then that raises even more questions. How did they know they could talk to him?? Did they just take the chance and try to talk to someone, and just by chance, the first time they try, it happened to be the guy who can talk to them??
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostandfree on April 14, 2010, 04:57:21 PM
Yeah I think the whole, "How Hurley got the power" is going to be left up to us. It may have been a power he always had which is why it was so imperitive for him to be on the original 815. He lands with the losties, the island amplifies his abilities, and he plays an integral role in defeating MiB.

The only problem I have with this is why his abilities didn't manifest until AFTER he was already back home.

He always had the abilities but he didn't need them the first time they were on the island.  The first time they crashed he was just a survivor with everyone else.  When he returned to the island the second time he had a mission, something to accomplish, and his abilities are now helping him.  Prior to this it just wasn't time yet, none of them were ready or knew what their purpose was yet.

Just doesn't work for me. It doesn't make sense that he could talk to dead people the whole time, but just didn't because he didn't have to.

Well, he doesn't talk to dead people at will.  THEY appear to HIM so I don't think he has any control over when they show up.  THEY were choosing to talk to him when he was ready to take on his mission (the second trip).

Okay, I can understand that, but then that raises even more questions. How did they know they could talk to him?? Did they just take the chance and try to talk to someone, and just by chance, the first time they try, it happened to be the guy who can talk to them??

I would just assume that dead people are all knowing.  Their knowledge is no longer limited by the confines of the human brain.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 04:59:44 PM
You assume that?? Then why wouldn't they want to have Hurley and all them amongst them and be all knowing in the after life?? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick a fight over this, it's just not worth it, I just don't see the logic in this. Not because of your POV, but because they haven't told us about his power enough.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
You assume that?? Then why wouldn't they want to have Hurley and all them amongst them and be all knowing in the after life?? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick a fight over this, it's just not worth it, I just don't see the logic in this. Not because of your POV, but because they haven't told us about his power enough.

I'm hoping they explain it. There are really only Desmond's and Hurley's powers to be explained. They CAN do it, but I won't be pissed if its left to my imagination.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: cookieshoes on April 14, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 



Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 14, 2010, 05:53:03 PM
It explains the whispers, but not the appearance. I think they are aart from one another. Could be the whispers conjured up when they saw Walt was going to be projected for whatever reason. Could also be a continuity error
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 14, 2010, 06:15:13 PM
So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 

As lame an answer as this is, it could have just been a coincidence. But it might be something the Others were testing. Maybe the others used the whispers to sneak around the island, and Walt had somehow managed to do it as well.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: cookieshoes on April 14, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
Thinking about it a little more, could Walt then perhaps be dead?  His appearance to Locke, after Ben shot him in the grave, was actually the MIB appearing as Walt, so that MIB could further his plans. And, so far, the MIB has proven to only be able to appear as dead people.

So, in addition to the whispers, Walt appeared via the MIB. Even though Walt was shown alive off-island, might he already have died on-island as part of some time travel continuity as yet explained??
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 14, 2010, 10:04:04 PM
So, we finally got an answer about the whispers.... but they must have some kind of power... warning others, taking or moving others to where they need to go....could Christian be a whisper or is he MIB?


I can't see that they have power. I think they are warning people or just whining about being stuck on the island.
Christian's form may have been used by MIB before but MIB is now stuck in Locke's form
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: jugdish on April 14, 2010, 10:09:58 PM
I don't believe Hurley always had the ability to talk to dead people. i believe it started on the island and the isalnd chose hurley to have this ability. The island seeked out the most sympathetic candidate to use to protect the island
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 14, 2010, 10:16:09 PM
Yes Hurley has empathy that is certain and these dead folks are lonely like him.  I hope that at some point the audio is clear enough to hear what they have to say.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: zeekloveslost on April 15, 2010, 02:12:24 PM
Yeah.  I had been leaning towards the Whispers being connected to MIB (but I guess he has his own distinct sound).  But we've been told that MIB can no longer appear as anyone other than Locke.  So this Michael is definitely not MIB.  (But he seemed to be giving Hurley advice, which is [A] non-Jacob-like, as Richard pointed out; and seemed to be in sync with what MIB wants, i.e., don't blow up the plane.)

Michael also showed them the way to find MIB.

Yeah and sent them on their way to MiB who is trying to kill every last one of them. Mark my words. You are going to be shocked when MiB carries out his plan of trying to kill all the losties. I Hope you come on here and try to defend MiB whenever that happens too. You are already doing it with the Desmond thing. Why would MiB ask Des why he isn't afraid if there is no reason TO be afraid. Immediately afterwards throws him down a well.

I will be here my love. Will you be here too if MIB turns out to be the good one and David Shepard?

I am still amazed by your poise and grace in the face of the constant snide, baiting remarks of I_Am_Jacob.  Stick to your ideas and keep staying on the high ground above the meanness! :)
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: opgelost on April 15, 2010, 03:21:03 PM
Thank you Zeek. I am glad there are people like you here too.
 
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 15, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
If MiB turns out to have some wierd reason for trying to kill Des and turns out to be good I will still be here. If he turns out to be David Shepherd however I won't be here. I will be busy impaling myself after watching the writers ruin one of the two best shows ever on TV.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: CaseyMac on April 15, 2010, 04:28:44 PM
The longer they go without giving MIB a name, the more I start to think...opie may be right about David. I don't think the theory is right, but I havn't been able to prove it wrong yet either. As a precaution, I may just lock up all sharp objects on May 23rd.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 15, 2010, 04:40:35 PM
I have a feeling either one or two things are going to happen.

1.) They know the name will be telling of their backstory which they are saving for a later time. (If it is Esau or Jacob)

2.) They just won't tell us his name. I don't think it matters what his name is, as long as it isn't David Shepherd. That would suck. If they give us their backstory I'll be good with that. I can see them giving us a backstory similar to the theory of Jacob and Esau. Then not use Esau's name so as to keep the freedom to play with the story a bit. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 15, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
I have a feeling either one or two things are going to happen.

1.) They know the name will be telling of their backstory which they are saving for a later time. (If it is Esau or Jacob)

2.) They just won't tell us his name. I don't think it matters what his name is, as long as it isn't David Shepherd. That would suck. If they give us their backstory I'll be good with that. I can see them giving us a backstory similar to the theory of Jacob and Esau. Then not use Esau's name so as to keep the freedom to play with the story a bit. Just a thought.

There is at least one more episode about Jacob and MIB, so I bet we'll get his name then.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 15, 2010, 05:16:52 PM
I have a feeling either one or two things are going to happen.

1.) They know the name will be telling of their backstory which they are saving for a later time. (If it is Esau or Jacob)

2.) They just won't tell us his name. I don't think it matters what his name is, as long as it isn't David Shepherd. That would suck. If they give us their backstory I'll be good with that. I can see them giving us a backstory similar to the theory of Jacob and Esau. Then not use Esau's name so as to keep the freedom to play with the story a bit. Just a thought.

There is at least one more epsidoe about Jacob and MIB, so I bet we'll get his name then.

Yeah I would think we will also. Just prepping myself in case we don't. I can see that being left a mystery. Darlton seem to be the kind of guys that are going to leave us some things to kick around during the rewatch. Also could be a nice reveal on Aug 24 when the Blu-ray Series comes out.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 15, 2010, 09:34:45 PM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 16, 2010, 01:57:30 AM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


Yeah I don't lik Michael telling me anything.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostfan777 on April 16, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


I'm OK with David being an unimportant character, just a footnote in Jack's story, but I will be disappointed if Aaron isn't a bigger part of the overall story arc.  He has been part of the series since the pilot episode, and too many episodes have centered around him in one way or another.  There has been the whole debate about Claire having to raise him herself, the others kidnapping him, he was one of the Oceanic 6, Kate raising him, Claire appearing to Kate and telling her not to bring him back, etc.  If they leave him out of the ending of the story, that would be proof in my opinion that they were just making things up as they went along, regardless of who Adam and Eve turn out to be.  Another point in my own mind (since I love to drag the Christian references into everything) is that old Charlie dream sequence where Claire is dressed to look like the Virgin Mary with a white dove flying around.  I'm not saying Aaron is Jesus or anything, but I think he will play a part in the end.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 16, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: lostfan777 on April 16, 2010, 12:10:40 PM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.

I guess it wasn't solid enough for everyone!  The writers must be banging their heads on a wall somewhere right now because even when they give us answers, we pick apart the way the answers were given to create more mysteries and more questions!  I thought the way they addressed this scene sounded like it was written by a third grader, it was so simple.  They hear the whispers; Hurley says "wait, I think I know what they are";  Michael appears and tells Hurley he is stuck on the island because of what he did, he is one of the ones who can't move on;  Hurley asks "So that is what the whispers are?";  Michael confirms.

Maybe Michael should have given Hurley one of Jacob's lists detailing each and every one of the whispers.  Then they could have run it with the closing credits so we'd know for sure!   ::)
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: Madam P on April 16, 2010, 04:08:35 PM

What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.


Well, yeah, pretty solid except for this:


So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 


That one's still bothering me quite a bit.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 16, 2010, 04:16:38 PM

What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.


Well, yeah, pretty solid except for this:


So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 


That one's still bothering me quite a bit.

It's lame, but I'm chalking it up to coincidence. I mean, if the ghosts were there the whole time, then I'm sure that once or twice the whispers were bound to happen when something weird was going on.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: CaseyMac on April 16, 2010, 04:39:31 PM

What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.


Well, yeah, pretty solid except for this:


So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 


That one's still bothering me quite a bit.

*waves hand in jedi mind trick* That scene never happened. Walt never did that. *end jedi mind trick* ;)
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: Madam P on April 16, 2010, 04:48:27 PM
LOL!   ;D

And furthermore (puts on dark glasses that the MiB wear before setting off the Flashy Thing -- no, not that MIB, the other ones, the cool ones... and different Flashy Thing, too...)   "Those whispers with Walt that time?  That was some stupid sound editor's screw up, and we fired him, so... yeah.  That was it." 
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: BobBX542 on April 16, 2010, 04:59:50 PM
LOL!   ;D

And furthermore (puts on dark glasses that the MiB wear before setting off the Flashy Thing -- no, not that MIB, the other ones, the cool ones... and different Flashy Thing, too...)   "Those whispers with Walt that time?  That was some stupid sound editor's screw up, and we fired him, so... yeah.  That was it." 

A wizard did it.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 17, 2010, 12:30:17 AM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


Yeah I don't lik Michael telling me anything.
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.
I don't believe that Michael was the best choice is sharing what the whispers are.  I believe him but like you both said he is not one man we want to hear from.  I think there were other characters better suited to share, but considering the Libby connection I will just accept but I am not happy.  I have the right to be both.
you two are so funny
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 17, 2010, 12:34:50 AM
I am going with the story that Jacob and MIB are brothers names story will surface and Aaron and David are nothing to do with this.
And the whispers well I want more of an answer cause that was not the person I wanted to hear them from.


What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.

I guess it wasn't solid enough for everyone!  The writers must be banging their heads on a wall somewhere right now because even when they give us answers, we pick apart the way the answers were given to create more mysteries and more questions!  I thought the way they addressed this scene sounded like it was written by a third grader, it was so simple.  They hear the whispers; Hurley says "wait, I think I know what they are";  Michael appears and tells Hurley he is stuck on the island because of what he did, he is one of the ones who can't move on;  Hurley asks "So that is what the whispers are?";  Michael confirms.

Maybe Michael should have given Hurley one of Jacob's lists detailing each and every one of the whispers.  Then they could have run it with the closing credits so we'd know for sure!   ::)
It was solid but like I wrote not just my choice of peole to deliver.  Micheal was well annoying
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: PurpleLostPrincess on April 18, 2010, 04:54:36 PM

What do you mean you want more of an answer?? I mean I hate Michael as much, if not more, than the next guy, but the answer they gave us was pretty solid.


Well, yeah, pretty solid except for this:


So, if the whispers are dead people roaming the island...how does that explain Walt's "whisper" appearances on the island? 


That one's still bothering me quite a bit.

This one is bothering me too, considering we have seen Walt alive off-island... Also, what about the Hurley-Bird!!?? And the fact that Walt was sopping wet!!??

HHHhhhhmmmmmm
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: LostinLock on April 18, 2010, 07:46:27 PM
PP - I believe that their ability to be places was one of the things they were trying to figure out.  I mean we all know Walt is alive, but I also wonder if the image of Walt was "used" by someone, who's name I fear to mention.

None the less they also could be images from the individuals mind the island used to assist them to their next place.

hard to say with this one, but that was my initial "frustration" with havign Michael deliver the line of what the whispers were.  Oh I hear dead people.  I mean I buy it and all but just a bit lame.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on April 19, 2010, 02:20:24 PM
I'm alright with the way they explained the Whispers. The Walt thing is interesting and confusing, but after not mentioning it for a while it may be one of the things that changed over the course of the series. For example, it may have fit with the story when Walt appeared, but as the story progressed, things changed, and now it makes no sense. YAY continuity.
Title: Re: Whispers
Post by: Maxor127 on April 20, 2010, 03:27:17 AM
Not even Walt, but appearances of Harper or whatever her name is and the sudden appearance of pretty much any other Other, and Ben specifically telling Danielle if she hears whispers, to run the other way as if to say that it meant Others were around.  With that Harper episode, I thought she was dead given the creepy way she acted and the way she seemed to appear out of nowhere, but nothing came of it and everyone could see her.

I'll live with the answer they gave though.  I still think it could've been handled better.