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Title: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: jugdish on March 17, 2010, 11:22:58 PM
Give us your opinion and rating of "Recon".
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: razzle-dazzle on March 18, 2010, 01:06:29 AM
I gave it a 7 only because of the French Windows 7 commercials. I enjoyed them more than this episode.

The Alt Sawyer story was rather boring and just threw Charlotte in there. I didn't buy the fact that he slept with the lady as part of the sting.
Sawyer double crossing Flocke and Widmore? Interesting.
Sawyer forgetting Juliet and making time with Kate? That didn't make sense if he was so in love with Juliet.
The Claire/Kate cat fight? Nice!  :o  :-*
The my mother was crazy too story by MIB/Flocke seemed like we are repeating things (Rousseau, Claire, etc).
How many Sawyer nicknames? I don't remember any,and if there were any, they didn't stick out.

I like Sawyer and I feel that this episode was one of his worst. I am tired of the pattern of one good episode and one not so great episode.
Even Miles seemed like he was missing his normal swagger and wisecracking.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 18, 2010, 08:49:15 AM
7 from "I only rate 10s" Laklost.

Something was so wrong with this episode.  Elizabeth Sarnoff is pretty consistently my least favorite of the lead writers.  And she wrote it with some fella whose name I have never observed.  Was this a throwaway episode?  I have never felt Josh Hollowy so unbelievably off.  It felt like all the hype he's gotten for being the breakout star of Lost was weighing him down.  He seemed to be playing a version of Sawyer instead of Sawyer.  Sawyer as stereotype.  Is there a worse fate than being a cop in a bad cop show? I think Sawyer with all of his bravado and off-kilter questing was completely emasculated in his sideways life.  Horrid.

But then again, this could all be because, as this ep was successful at showing, him being so off could be because he has truly made a deal with the devil.  UnLocke has gone from swaggering maybe bad guy to an almost Lewisian Screwtape - fattening up his victims with false hope and comfort so he can eat them all for his victory dinner.  An example of one of his feast leftovers was left on Hydra Island.  I'm sick of the success of UnLocke.  I'm ready for the rise of Jacob.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: conway on March 18, 2010, 11:36:14 AM
I felt giving this episode a 7 was a gift.  Stereotypically I anticipated great things
since it was "Sawyer" centric. I found it a bit choppy, disjointed.  The on island aspect was fairly compelling but I  had difficulty  in the sideways scenario seeing Sawyer as a policeman.
I felt many aspects were a bit contrived...the LaFleur  command, Charlotte and her finding the family picture...leaving La Fleur at her door,  Miles as the sidekick,
etc.

Let us have hope that the Richard centric episode knocks our socks off.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: Kurtis on March 18, 2010, 12:51:13 PM
I gave it an 8, wasn't expecting such a harsh reaction online. Solid episode that I think would have rated higher if people didn't have such high expectations to get socks blown off each week, and stressing out about how many episodes are left and questions unanswered. That being said, I am anticipating a solid 9 or 10 next week.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: JBRam on March 18, 2010, 08:48:39 PM
I agree completely with Kurtis. Solid 8 via new ratings, probably a low 10 with my old ratings. The episode had decent acting, good plot development, and some interesting twists, both in the island timeline and the side-flash. I think the harsh reaction is based on how well people liked the previous episode.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 18, 2010, 08:49:44 PM
My harsh reaction was based on how much I hated the episode.  But I think I really hate UnLocke.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: JBRam on March 18, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
My harsh reaction was based on how much I hated the episode.  But I think I really hate UnLocke.
lol, also a good reason to rate low.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 18, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
The funny thing is that I feel like I've delivered a crippling sucker punch in voting a 7.  It's like a zero.  ::)
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: E.S.B. on March 18, 2010, 09:02:19 PM
The funny thing is that I feel like I've delivered a crippling sucker punch in voting a 7.  It's like a zero.  ::)
Don't worry Lakie.  Like a prized fighter, Lost will be dusting itself off, getting off the mat and fighting back next week.  It's just a knockdown, not a KO.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 18, 2010, 09:16:47 PM
It's like a wristslap, not a knockdown.  :)
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: E.S.B. on March 18, 2010, 09:19:58 PM
Yeah, that's what happens when I punch too, lol.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 18, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
Yeah, with me it's all in the tantrum.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: E.S.B. on March 18, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
So I gave this episode a 7.  I enjoyed it, and I'm okay with the fact that it was a slower-paced, setup episode, compared to last week's epic.  We need some episodes like this.  There were some interesting storylines with FLocke, Sawyer, Kate and Widmore all mixed up in various cons and manipulating of each other.  The dichotemy of the way Claire treated Kate was intriguing - is she "back" now?

The Season 6 story arc was moved along and the players were moved into place to set up the next major events.  There weren't many great Sawyer one-liners, which I was a little disappointed it, and I thought the sideways story was not completely well-executed.  It was interesting to see, though, how sideways-Sawyer is different from Island Sawyer, yet the universe has course-corrected itself enough that he still wants to kill Anthony Cooper.  The subtle difference, though, is that Miles might actually be able to talk him out of it.

So all in all, it wasn't a terrible episode and wasn't a complete throwaway - it was just a more subtle and nuanced story.  When we have slower setup episodes like this, what usually saves them is great emotional/redemptive character stories.  This one was just okay, from a character standpoint, which is why I give it a 7.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: razzle-dazzle on March 19, 2010, 04:49:24 AM
I think the harsh reaction is based on how well people liked the previous episode.

If it wasn't for the windows 7 commericals I would have rated it a 5 or a 3. I agree with  Laklost. I didn't like this episode. The previous one wasn't a major factor in my rating.

I take into account every episode of Lost in my ratings, not just the previous one. I feel that I should have 10s and 1s if I am being honest in my rating.
I rank them based on how good they are. This was a below average episode. Sawyer didn't appear to be Sawyer in either the alt or on the island.
 
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: JBRam on March 19, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
I wasn't condemning anyone with that statement, btw. I was a little lackluster about it because it was a letdown from the previous episode. However, I liked the character development, esp for Sawyer, in both timelines. That's just me.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 19, 2010, 03:51:58 PM
How did you see him developing - or do I have to wait to listen to the Big Coconut?
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: JBRam on March 19, 2010, 05:25:10 PM
Con and ReCon. Doublecrossing, being all Sawyer-y. He's actually DOING something instead of moping about Juliet. How is he not developing?
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: jugdish on March 19, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
I gave it a 7. Good story but not much action or to much plot movement. Last thing I want is more characters. i want to see the ones we already love!!1

good but not great.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 19, 2010, 07:09:17 PM
Con and ReCon. Doublecrossing, being all Sawyer-y. He's actually DOING something instead of moping about Juliet. How is he not developing?

I see it as a de-evolution of his character.  The fact that he is grousing about Anthony Cooper felt like one of the worst plot points so far.  That issue was SO settled.  Why in the world would they readdress that?  I can believe in a soon-to-come huge convergence with past events, but it felt like a horrid return to the past. 
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: JBRam on March 19, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
Con and ReCon. Doublecrossing, being all Sawyer-y. He's actually DOING something instead of moping about Juliet. How is he not developing?

I see it as a de-evolution of his character.  The fact that he is grousing about Anthony Cooper felt like one of the worst plot points so far.  That issue was SO settled.  Why in the world would they readdress that?  I can believe in a soon-to-come huge convergence with past events, but it felt like a horrid return to the past. 
They readdress it because in 2004 it HASN'T been addressed. Of course it sounds like a return to the past, cause it kinda is.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: laklost on March 19, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
Well, and Jeff Jensen saw the fact that Sawyer did NOT lie to either Widmore or UnLocke as proof that he is rejecting the darkness.  That is an interesting read.  I guess I passed over that.  Apparently I felt about this episode the way people felt about Kate's story - that it was a major retread.  You do have a point about Sawyer taking action again.  He very well might be fighting against UnLocke's schemes.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on March 20, 2010, 08:33:13 AM
I gave this a 6

James- never thought he had jumped ship to join MIB an always suspected he was out for himself.  Just like in season one.  The LaFleur reference was comical and so much the 70’s DI days where he and Miles bonded.  I had to laugh that here James the cop allows Kate a head start in LA X and now she crashes into him again. 
Point on sideways – these folks were to meet no matter what.  I got it the fan base gets it and pity some other things can’t get fleshed out.
New mystery – the cave barbers – or do you enter the caves with long stringy hair and come out with a new coiffure!  Seriously continuity on this show continues to go downhill.  (I am keeping faith)

Comical /Understated Moment – Xanax Sayid – are you okay?  No.  I wonder if he wakes up from the darkness if he is going to kick MIB right out of Locke.

PMS Moment:  Kate crying over Claire attacking her.  Dang she has more balls than most men, so put on your big girl bra Kate and get over it.  Seriously what were the writers trying to prove with this? 
Widmore loved seeing him back in the mix, his not committing manner and it just makes you wonder what is going to happen next.

Locke – well interesting that the original Locke’s mom was a bit on the crazy side too, but he points out that Claire is crazy?  Ummmmm gee who made her off the rocker?  So if he did this to Claire does MIB have an issue with women in general?    Is he the origin of fertility issues?  Also the entire scene with him walking through “jungle” was reminiscent of when Locke was leading them around in season four. 
I just do not trust Locke
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: Ladybug on March 21, 2010, 12:08:09 PM
i give it a 6.  better than average, but not by much.  i love sawyer.  i like that he's a cop, i like the connections in the sideways that they are giving us.  just like all the connections in the flashbacks.  albeit these are a little more in our faces, they are still there.

other than that.  meh.  the on island stuff flat pi**es me of.  i hate crazy psycho claire.  i hate crazy psycho claire being putty in notLocke's hands even more.  I HATE HATE HATE the fact that sayid has gone to the dark side. 
what else do i hate:
sawyer working with flocke (or is he working with widmore?) either way, hate it.
kate becoming such a wuss.  it's like she's scared of her own shadow now.  old kate would have hit crazy claire upside the head and given her a good beating, in the mud, for ratings of course.
new characters.  please.  this late in the series?
hurley & jack?  where are they in all this other chaos?

anyway.  that's my story and i'm stickin' to it.
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on March 22, 2010, 01:56:45 PM
wasn't impressed....hate that they gave us more characters. I agree with LB-I can't stand that Sayid is bad and crazy Claire is just annoying...don't even want to rate it. On a positive note I can't wait for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on March 23, 2010, 02:59:50 PM
 Six average episode, though didn't mind staring at Sawyer all cleaned up :-). But again I want answers. 
I think poor Sawyer is going to out con himself. Think Widmore on side of MIB as Jacob had Ben kick him off the island and Widmore came once before for ben.

I am very very excited about tonight's episode. I hope they deliver, again I want answers!
Title: Re: Episode 6x8 Rating
Post by: Cardacct on March 25, 2010, 02:58:27 AM
I gave it a 7.  I liked that he was a cop.  It was interesting to me that he was a cop, but he still didn't tattle on Kate with her cuffs in the airport.

It wasn't the best episode, especially for a Sawyer episode, but it was alright.  I think I might just like Sawyer as a snarky side character hanging out with Hugo.