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Title: This Episode was
Post by: Point Place WI on March 16, 2010, 11:40:28 PM
(http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr35/XxTheReaperxX/epicfail.jpg)

Really?????/

9 Episodes left......yeah maybe Darlton will just have Someone watching the Sopranos and it blacks out or have an episode of Expose and just fade to black! 
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 16, 2010, 11:42:06 PM
It was a slower episode that the last few.  Epic fail?  Something tells me they were not trying to make it exactly a mind-blowing episode, so if one is not attempting to do something, not sure if I would call it a failure.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 16, 2010, 11:46:03 PM
just when i was thinking i may have a clue what we waste 1/2 an episode on flash sideways is for... BOOOM this episode enforces the JOKE that they are.... its just a 6 degrees of seperation and we get to go ohhhhhhhhhhhhh when someone has a cameo...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 16, 2010, 11:52:40 PM
The flash sideways gave us the following...

- Sawyer, whether criminal or cop, will always want to hunt down the man who killed his parents - this reinforces the idea of the universe course-correcting itself, and causes us to wonder just how much influence that Jacob's touch has on the future events of someone's life.  This further reinforces the theory that the two timelines may converge at one point.
- Miles' dad, Pierre Chang is ALIVE in the flash-sideways and working at a museum with Charlotte.  This is important as it provides more clues as to when the split between the timelines may have occured (after the incident?) and that Dharma people who were on the Island at the time of the Incident were able to make it off the Island at some point after the split (Ben, Roger, Pierre, Ethan).
- Miles' life isn't quite so screwed up in the Sideways world, possibly because he has a father-figure.  This is one more example of the existence of the Island screwing up people's lives.

I thought these were good pieces of the story that we got out of the Sideways story, to name a few.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 16, 2010, 11:55:42 PM
wow...so happy to know that... now i can sleep better, knowing miles doesnt have issues anymore...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 16, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
wow...so happy to know that... now i can sleep better, knowing miles doesnt have issues anymore...
Good, I'm glad you can sleep better!
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Roman122 on March 17, 2010, 12:07:43 AM
Sorry to rain on everyone's misery parade (sorry, couldnt think of a better term) but I'm getting a little tired of reading these kind of threads. They're not just here, they're everywhere. I, for one, like a good story... which is what we're being given with this (in case you forgot what it was) television show. I think people are expecting a little bit too much from the show at this point. Why don't we all just go along for the ride and see how this thing plays out? It sounds better to me than trashing all over something we've praised for almost 6 years now...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: MachThree on March 17, 2010, 12:11:45 AM
Honestly, people are going to be dissapointed if they're expecting everything to be answered, or even a lot of things.  Based on how the story seems to be progressing, I'd say that, tt best, there will be a lot of answers, crammed into the last few episodes - or maybe not very many answers at all.  I still think the very biggest questions will be answers - what is the island, who are smokey and jacob - but a lot of other questions that a lot of people consider to be major will go unanswered.  There's just not enough time left for them to answer all these things and still have a plot. 
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 17, 2010, 12:13:36 AM
so what your saying is knowing how many episodes are left, TPTB were happy to pass this episode thru as "filler".. cause it for sure as hell didnt do anything for the story line thus far...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: lostlady on March 17, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
This show since season one has been all about unanswered questions. It won't be any different in the last episode. They will answer many questions  this season but there are definitely going to be a lot of questions unanswered--it's Lost and that is how they write the show.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: trodge on March 17, 2010, 12:15:52 AM
Sorry to rain on everyone's misery parade (sorry, couldnt think of a better term) but I'm getting a little tired of reading these kind of threads. They're not just here, they're everywhere. I, for one, like a good story... which is what we're being given with this (in case you forgot what it was) television show. I think people are expecting a little bit too much from the show at this point. Why don't we all just go along for the ride and see how this thing plays out? It sounds better to me than trashing all over something we've praised for almost 6 years now...

*clap clap*

I agree with you...

But at the same time, just because I'm so excited to see how this wraps up, I want answers now...hell, right now, I'd kill for a package of dvds with the rest of the episodes, I just wanna know how it ends...

But when I re-watch all 6 seasons when the show is finished, I know I'll think jesus, I've watched one of the greatest shows ever...and the answers were in the first episode we just didn't know ;)
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 17, 2010, 12:17:37 AM
so what your saying is knowing how many episodes are left, TPTB were happy to pass this episode thru as "filler".. cause it for sure as hell didnt do anything for the story line thus far...
It moved the Season 6 storyline along.  It did not address many of the storylines from season 1-5, but it moved this one along.  Yeah, I want answers too, but there still has to be a plot.

In my opinion, it was not filler.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 17, 2010, 12:20:32 AM
yeah but this is also the first time they have been pounding the airways with THIS SEASON  QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: JMart on March 17, 2010, 12:44:23 AM
STOPPPP WATCHINGGGGGGGGG
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 17, 2010, 12:50:08 AM
yeah yeah..the famous stop watching slogan..... im sorry this doesnt sit well with you... but im sure you can make out a thing or 2 that this epsidoe MOVED the story along with.... excuse me for having an opinion... but this one has jumped the dharma shark...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: JMart on March 17, 2010, 01:02:40 AM
yada yada
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: ozman776 on March 17, 2010, 01:09:34 AM
figures thats all you have to say considering the only other threads available for this GREAT episode are
*kate holding claires hand
*whats in door number 3
*windows operating system
*it guy
*best lines of the night is barely a page long
*screen caps asks for books

so get off my nuts.. if ya love the episode then say why ya do... and ill keep saying why this will rate as the WORST episode to date.. even expose has this beat...
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: jamesl on March 17, 2010, 01:21:05 AM
they've given reasons why they like this episode: plot development and it moved the story along

you just won't listen

the showdown between widmore and smokey had to be set up somehow. They could have just had them bump into each other by accident or had widmore charge into smokey's camp, but this sets up suspense.
It puts Sawyer in the middle. Does smokey know Sawyer is playing him ? Does Widmore know Sawyer is playing him ? What are widmore's intentions ? Who's side is he on: Jacob's ? his own ?  What's in the locked room ? What does widmore know about Flocke ?

It's called plot development and its a very important part of story telling.  It's what makes the final resolution so interesting.
If there's no plot, no story, no character development, then we might as well just have Michael Bay direct LOST and fill it with explosions
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: JMart on March 17, 2010, 02:05:06 AM
figures thats all you have to say considering the only other threads available for this GREAT episode are
*kate holding claires hand
*whats in door number 3
*windows operating system
*it guy
*best lines of the night is barely a page long
*screen caps asks for books

so get off my nuts.. if ya love the episode then say why ya do... and ill keep saying why this will rate as the WORST episode to date.. even expose has this beat...

wow.. some people, i swear. every episode = more complaints. if you no longer like LOST then give up on it.. you post like you need permission to quit, so go ahead. my post wasn't even directed to at you first. i wasn't on nor will i ever be on your nuts.

Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: snoopafly on March 17, 2010, 02:09:28 AM
I agree with JMart's sentiments -  stop watching. You won't be missed.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: lostandfree on March 17, 2010, 02:16:47 AM
You're looking at it wrong.  You want each individual episode to be great in itself.  Look at it as all of season 6 as one big movie.  Each episode is just one small part of the bigger picture.  Some parts of a movie are slower but still important and the end ties it all together.


I AM excited for next week!
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: CaseyMac on March 17, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
I'm done trying to convince people that this show is phenomenal and head and shoulders above anything else thats been on TV ever. If you arn't enjoying the rollercoaster ride this entire season has been, I just kinda feel sorry for you. I'm getting massive enjoyment out of each episode, and I'm not going to try to convince anyone to agree with me.

Now, did this episode have the amazing acting performances of last week, or the awesome revelations of the week before? Not really. However, it was a bridge that moved the story along. It fleshed out the new major 3rd player in the rumble in the jungle, showing us Widmore's crew.

So, either you are ripping on the show as not meeting your expectations, or you are eating up every scene. Personally, I'm having alot more fun being the latter.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Roman122 on March 17, 2010, 03:20:32 AM
heres a thought...go **** yaself... my opinions mine... ill keep watching and ill probably find a better forum than this one considering its been dead for years... but im having too much fun reading the IT theory!

Good luck trying to find a better LOST forum... All they do is bicker and argue on most of the others... oh well, I guess you'll fit right in there... have fun!  ;D
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: CaseyMac on March 17, 2010, 03:24:33 AM
Guys, seriously, lets not get personal here. We'll leave that type of forum bickering to the 12 year olds on the video game forums. When it degrades into ad hominum attacks, everybody loses.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: IFP on March 17, 2010, 03:45:59 AM
figures thats all you have to say considering the only other threads available for this GREAT episode are
*kate holding claires hand
*whats in door number 3
*windows operating system
*it guy
*best lines of the night is barely a page long
*screen caps asks for books

so get off my nuts.. if ya love the episode then say why ya do... and ill keep saying why this will rate as the WORST episode to date.. even expose has this beat...

Seriously, I'm sorry you can't appreciate good storytelling, but please, take it to the playground. Would you know a good book if it was slammed shut on your nuts? Doubt it.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: nomteticus on March 17, 2010, 03:52:54 AM
I thought it was a great episode, maybe one of the best of the season in terms of character development. The keyword here was confruntation:
 - between Sawyer and Miles (mirroring their 3 year old friendship)
 - between Kate and Claire (cathartic rage followed by redemption)
 - between MIB/Locke and just about everyone - Claire, Sawyer, Kate
 - between Widmore and Sawyer (wouldn't have mind if Sawyer would have asked W. more questions, but he didn't really care)
 - between Sawyer and Charlotte (OK, we didn't really need that one, but it was fun)

What I liked about this episode is that people finally started talking to eachother, and they all stayed in character. Sawyer was the same conman we all love, Kate was circumspect to Locke just like she has always been, and expecting protection from Sayid (they always had a big brother - little sister type of relationship). Mad Claire was a cross between old Claire and Rousseau and Sayid is obviously not himself, but that is to be expected. All the dialogue exchanges were logical (unlike other times). The Temple people did want to know what happened to the others and they were scared and confused, not just acting like the usual redshirts.

And I liked the off-island stuff and I don't think they're just throwing us the character connections for no reason, just to make Charlotte appear or something. Claire-Kate-Sawyer-Miles-Charlie-Charlotte, Sayid-Jin and Locke-Ben-Arzt seem to be the current connections, but I suppose they will all be reunited by the end of the season in the flashsideways world, and there will be a good reason for that, not just coincidences. Or at least that's what I think they want to do.

I had my moment of frustration during episodes 4-6, since I didn't like the way they were reinventing the story of the numbers, but now I have faith that the show is going in the right direction. And the Richard centric episode is just around the corner.

And we did get a few hints as to the intentions of Widmore, and it seems to blow up the Jacob good MIB evil stereotype, since he seems more evil than both of them. And we did get one hint to an answer: who was in the boat that Juliet shot in season 5, as the answer seems to be Widmore's men.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: IFP on March 17, 2010, 03:55:52 AM
The problem here is that some people expect payoff with no setup, which would be EXTREMELY disappointing if it actually played out that way. Come on, this may be the last season, but it's still an entire SEASON - it's a chapter unto itself. There's a story arc here, and it requires setup just like any other season/chapter. This just happens to be the one that draws the story to conclusion. Ever read a book? The resolution tends to happen in the last few pages... I just want to go on record here as saying I hope this ambiguity continues until the very last episode, just to weed out the F*CKNUTS who don't have the patience that true art requires. Suck it. Spiteful? yes! In fact, I hope it cuts to black at the end.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: jugdish on March 17, 2010, 07:19:41 AM
Enough of the personal attacks. Just discuss the post, not the person. These types of attacks are not acceptable here at SWLS. People are allowed their opinions. Discuss your thoughts and keep it clean.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: jamesl on March 17, 2010, 07:40:13 AM
... What I liked about this episode is that people finally started talking to eachother, .....

wow, I totally disagree with that
I was practically yelling at the screen at Kate, "Ask Claire where she went ! Ask her why she left Aaron alone in the woods !"

any normal person would have been yelling at Claire in defense after being attacked for SAVING her freaking son !
"I had to take him ! You left him alone in the woods ! What is wrong with you ? Where did you go !"
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Writers_Strike on March 17, 2010, 08:03:08 AM
I am sorry to say this again this week but, I am really hating everyone being neighbors. It's like the producers said we only have 13 episodes left and the entire fanbase will bitch if we don't do a flash sideways covering all of the people who have ever been on the show. OK lets jam in 5 characters per episode, that should cover it. That should keep everyone happy, except for that one guy who bitches about it :P
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: grizn0 on March 17, 2010, 08:31:55 AM
Cool stories, bros.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 17, 2010, 10:05:47 AM
Cool stories, bros.
LOL, Grizzy, you rock.   ;D
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: powerful on March 17, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
I am also tired of people saying that if one does not enjoy the episode, then that one must be answer-oriented and then all the responses would be about one would be disappointed and LOST needs story development, bla bla bla...

It is not really about no answers, it is really about the quality of writing and character arcs.
As a loyal fans of LOST, a typical Sawyer-centric episode lover, I am amused at first for the cop setting.
However what goes after on? What has built up so perfectly the new James Ford character?
Remember the real good old days "The Confidence Man", "Long Con" brings us?
Especially "The Long Con", how successful they deliver the message of tiger never losing stripes to us?
And how relevant the island story matches the flashback? That is the brilliance of LOST!
How emotional they caught us for the letter written by James?
and how effective the relationship between Juliet and James developed in only a few single moments in LaFleur?
They are all done without a single mystery solved!

So now for today's episode, anyone fascinated by James-Charlotte romance?
anyone moved by the talk between James and Miles at the car about the revenge to Anthony Cooper?
And every plot line is so predictable that James must have run into Kate again.
And by showing Widmore in the sub at "Dr. Linus", they totally ruin the suspense and surprise for what James finds out in Hydra.
And I laugh out hard during Claire-Kate hug scene. I don't know what the writer's purpose is, yet it is only hilarious and weird, maybe it is the feeling they want to give us!?

Maybe Ben's "Dr. Linus" raise the anticipation so high that I have false hope LOST could return a higher quality.
Easily one of the worst of the series for today. >.<

Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Walkabout V.2 on March 17, 2010, 10:17:22 AM
How about creating a "Bitch,Moan and Complain Section" similar to the Spoilers Section? I pop into the spoilers once in a great while but some folks are there all the time. By creating that section those who wish to rip the show can be with "like minded" individuals. I don't always think the last episode I watched was the greatest ever and am have expressed frustration at times but ALL of the episodes play a role in the finale. Hell just read Grapes of Wrath again and then we can talk about useless and meaningless filler.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: nomteticus on March 17, 2010, 10:18:50 AM
Yeah, you are right about some of the flash-sideways action, but I thought the island story was great, and, while a Sawyer-centric episode, I thought Terry O'Quinn stole the show.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: on the island on March 17, 2010, 10:20:39 AM
I'm sorry but the rules have been established.  Love every second of every show or stop watching.  

Kidding aside, the flash-sideways (bizarro world) is not/has not worked for me.  So until they somehow pull it all together, and I'm skeptical they will, it is going to be not as good.

However, I am REALLY pumped for next week.  It could set the stage for a fantastic sprint to the finish.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: powerful on March 17, 2010, 10:23:12 AM
I now should have to pray the long-awaited Richard-centric episode would not be a FLASH-SIDEWAY.
But now given every episode the same format, I am very worried it would happen.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: nomteticus on March 17, 2010, 10:27:39 AM
I now should have to pray the long-awaited Richard-centric episode would not be a FLASH-SIDEWAY.
But now given every episode the same format, I am very worried it would happen.

Richard could be dead in the sideways world, if that world is a place without "Jacob's touch".
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: conway on March 17, 2010, 10:28:52 AM
I too was somewhat disappointed in this episode. Stereotypically I expected to dislike the Ben centric episode and yet thought it was the best all season. Seeing this was Sawyer centric I expected to love it.  I enjoyed the island side more than the  flash sideways aspect. Seeing Charlotte was  unexpected and interesting but over all I found the episode a bit flat.
I did like Sawyer's truthfulness to MIB.
Well, next week's Richard centric should be great. Hopefully more answers concerning aspects of the island only he would know about.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: lostfan777 on March 17, 2010, 10:29:11 AM
heres a thought...go **** yaself... my opinions mine... ill keep watching and ill probably find a better forum than this one considering its been dead for years... but im having too much fun reading the IT theory!


Has anyone ever been banned from this forum?  I know it's late in the series, but.......... ???
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: lostfan777 on March 17, 2010, 10:38:05 AM
Too many comments to reply to in here already, so I'll just put my two cents in.....

Episode was definitely slower than some, but I thought it was still interesting.  On island stuff was IMPORTANT to the storyline, building up the battle to come and showing us that Sawyer is 'not WITH anybody'.  Off island stuff was more fun than anything, but we did learn a few things (Sawyer still after Cooper, Miles dad is alive and well...)  I'm betting that TPTB will tie the two worlds together at the end and we will see that they aren't just wasting our time with the sideflashes.  For those that use the sideflashes for 'bathroom breaks' I think you're missing the point that we're being shown serious differences, as well as consistencies, in each character, and we will eventually be shown (IMHO) the reasons for all of it when it ties together.  I'm confident there is a method to their madness.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Kurtis on March 17, 2010, 10:45:22 AM
heres a thought...go **** yaself... my opinions mine... ill keep watching and ill probably find a better forum than this one considering its been dead for years... but im having too much fun reading the IT theory!

I don't know about banning someone for being ridiculously negative and ill tempered...but I am getting sick of reading posts from people who seem to be fixated on solely airing their grievances.  I thought this was a forum for fans of LOST, and while we all have our preferences on what makes a great episode, too many posters seem to just want to rip the show and the writers each week.
I personally thought last night's episode was solid, but I just choose to enjoy my favorite show as it plays out instead of fixating on how many more episodes are left and how many questions are left unanswered. Bottom line is its a well written, well acted, captivating show the likes we have never seen, and there WILL be some unanswered questions at the end. If you can't handle that then that's unfortunate. Just try to enjoy the ride as long as it lasts, or I would suggest getting a new Tuesday night hobby.


Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: JMart on March 17, 2010, 12:13:42 PM
i think the reason they are having SO many people in the flash sideways cross paths is just to show that even without the island, their lives are still connected. even it at times it may seem corny.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: KoKoNut on March 17, 2010, 12:50:19 PM
... What I liked about this episode is that people finally started talking to eachother, .....

wow, I totally disagree with that
I was practically yelling at the screen at Kate, "Ask Claire where she went ! Ask her why she left Aaron alone in the woods !"

any normal person would have been yelling at Claire in defense after being attacked for SAVING her freaking son !
"I had to take him ! You left him alone in the woods ! What is wrong with you ? Where did you go !"

LOL! I was thinking the SAME THING!!!! It is frustrating the freakin' bejeezubs out of me that Kate is not asking Claire where in the freakin' H she has been after leaving Aaron out in the middle of the jungle alone. And that, yes, Kate took it upon herself to make sure Aaron was SAFE and that he is now with his gramma, YOUR MOTHER, CLAIRE DARLING.    HELLO, HI!  SAY SOMETHING KATE!!!! SAAAAYYYYYYYY SOMMMEEETHING!!!!!!


Enjoyed this ep because I liked seeing Sawyer (yummy) as a cop. At the beggining I was a little let down thinking, aw man, he's STILL a con-man?

BUt I have to agree with some of the other posters who are tired of seeing everybody jammed into the same sideflash. I wanted to throw up in my mouth when they showed Charlotte with Sawyer.  I mean, she looked GORGEOUS, but it's like, why the H is SHE there? Why does everybody seem to know everybody????  And hi, there's Charlies brother at the police station...where Charlie just happens to be being held....It's getting a little gratuitous...but ah well.

Got to see Sawyer shirtless again, so that makes it an overall pretty awesome episode.
 ;D
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Suzanne4au2 on March 17, 2010, 01:42:47 PM
Guys, seriously, lets not get personal here. We'll leave that type of forum bickering to the 12 year olds on the video game forums. When it degrades into ad hominum attacks, everybody loses.
right i kind of feel like i am playing Modern Warfare while reading this thread.
And this wasn't one of my favorite episodes
yikes
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: CaseyMac on March 17, 2010, 02:13:24 PM
^ Thats funny you mention Modern Warfare. Thats been my game of choice lately, and this thread was totally feeling like that. (stupid noob tube, shotty is overpowered, hax0r, etc.)

As for people's feelings about the side-flashes, I totally understand. I think we all have this general feeling of, "what the hell are we exactly seeing here?"

We know the characters, but they are tweaked, and we have no idea of the story or where they are heading. All that together seems to just be confusing us. I'm pretty darn certain that by the end it will all make sense.

TPTB have yet to let us down, they've had this season generally planned for awhile, and they will come through for us.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: BrianIsLost2 on March 17, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
i think the reason they are having SO many people in the flash sideways cross paths is just to show that even without the island, their lives are still connected. even it at times it may seem corny.
Bingo.  TPTB aren't just making in convenient that everyone seems to live in LA.  They are saying that it is their destiny to be intertwined with everyone.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: BrianIsLost2 on March 17, 2010, 02:52:33 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again:  TPTB are just loading the bases.  The Grand Slam is coming.  Have faith, my friends.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: lostfan777 on March 17, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again:  TPTB are just loading the bases.  The Grand Slam is coming.  Have faith, my friends.

That sums it up for me, thanks!  ...............Hotdog, please!
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: Point Place WI on March 19, 2010, 09:37:01 PM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat.  Sure, it was a filler and I love what BrianisLost's point was in that they are just loading the bases.  I know there has to be a grand slam left in them.  I just don't want to leave those base runners stranded.  I just feel that we are walking on eggshells with who's on who's side. 

Anyone who wants to complain about why I started this thread needs to take a step back before they rip everyone a new one.  We are all fans & I've been here for a very long time.  In order to have a good series you'll have realists, skeptics, and trolls that bash.  Just play nice show some common courtesy and share your feelings in a civil manner.

Thanks to anyone who shared there likes, dislikes, and opened anyones mind to change the way they felt about the episode.  My first impression was not necessarily my last.

PPWI 
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: jugdish on March 19, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat.  Sure, it was a filler and I love what BrianisLost's point was in that they are just loading the bases.  I know there has to be a grand slam left in them.  I just don't want to leave those base runners stranded.  I just feel that we are walking on eggshells with who's on who's side. 

Anyone who wants to complain about why I started this thread needs to take a step back before they rip everyone a new one.  We are all fans & I've been here for a very long time.  In order to have a good series you'll have realists, skeptics, and trolls that bash.  Just play nice show some common courtesy and share your feelings in a civil manner.

Thanks to anyone who shared there likes, dislikes, and opened anyones mind to change the way they felt about the episode.  My first impression was not necessarily my last.

PPWI 

Wow! People from Wisconsin sure do make sense.
I agree 100%
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: CaseyMac on March 19, 2010, 11:51:48 PM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat. 

Not missed a beat? Are you sure?

Before this episode, I for one was wondering...
- when Claire would go psycho-killer on Kate
- what Locke's reaction would be
- how far off the deep end was Sayid
- where the sub was going and how many people were in it
- what was the twist in Sawyer's alt timeline
- is Sawyer with MIB or just pulling a long con
- whats up with the rest of the Ajira passengers

Those are just a few reveals we got this episode. (of course I have tons more questions that havn't been answered yet)

Don't get me wrong, I don't think EVERY episode needs to be the holy snot best ever, but saying this episode could just be skipped over kind of does an injustice to it in my very humble opinion. I will say that this was the first episode this season with a really pedestrian ending. Yeah, it was revealed that Sawyer is just playing both sides, but the way it was done didn't give me an OMG moment like the rest of this season has.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: E.S.B. on March 21, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat.  Sure, it was a filler and I love what BrianisLost's point was in that they are just loading the bases.  I know there has to be a grand slam left in them.  I just don't want to leave those base runners stranded.  I just feel that we are walking on eggshells with who's on who's side. 

Anyone who wants to complain about why I started this thread needs to take a step back before they rip everyone a new one.  We are all fans & I've been here for a very long time.  In order to have a good series you'll have realists, skeptics, and trolls that bash.  Just play nice show some common courtesy and share your feelings in a civil manner.

Thanks to anyone who shared there likes, dislikes, and opened anyones mind to change the way they felt about the episode.  My first impression was not necessarily my last.

PPWI 
Well said, PPWI.  Come around more often!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: BrianIsLost2 on March 22, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat.
I understand what you mean.  But, don't forget that we could have learned some things in the episode that seem to be of little importance now but will be in the coming episodes.  I trust TPTB.  I don't think they would truly just have filler for filler's sake in season 6.  I think there is a reason behind this kind of episode.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: JBRam on March 22, 2010, 03:45:59 PM
Wow let me clarify.  I just started a thread to hear your rants and raves about the episode.  Me personally, I could have missed this episode and never missed a beat. 

Not missed a beat? Are you sure?

Before this episode, I for one was wondering...
- when Claire would go psycho-killer on Kate
- what Locke's reaction would be
- how far off the deep end was Sayid
- where the sub was going and how many people were in it
- what was the twist in Sawyer's alt timeline
- is Sawyer with MIB or just pulling a long con
- whats up with the rest of the Ajira passengers

Those are just a few reveals we got this episode. (of course I have tons more questions that havn't been answered yet)

Don't get me wrong, I don't think EVERY episode needs to be the holy snot best ever, but saying this episode could just be skipped over kind of does an injustice to it in my very humble opinion. I will say that this was the first episode this season with a really pedestrian ending. Yeah, it was revealed that Sawyer is just playing both sides, but the way it was done didn't give me an OMG moment like the rest of this season has.
Good point, Casey, although I'm still wondering how loopy Sayid is and whether Sawyer's pulling a long con or a double con.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: IFP on March 23, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Just play nice show some common courtesy and share your feelings in a civil manner.


You have to admit though, your use of the EPIC FAIL image was a little inflammatory and bound to spark some emotional reactions.
That said, my comments earlier in this thread were a combination of angry defense and too many beers. I shouldn't have been posting that night.

My apologies to everyone, I didn't intend my angry posts to be personal attacks, but going back and reading, it clearly comes across that way.

Anyway, my opinion - this episode was not an epic fail by any means. It was a transistional, setup episode - light on the action of course, but that's storytelling 101. I like the "loading the bases" analogy.
Title: Re: This Episode was
Post by: CaseyMac on March 23, 2010, 04:52:38 PM
^ Good point. I've said before that not everybody needs to love every episode and heated debates are the most fun. At the same time, coming to a Lost forum and saying an episode sucked is like telling parents that their baby is ugly. People can tend to take it personally and get defensive.