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Title: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 16, 2010, 11:20:24 PM
Give us your rating and comments on "The Substitute"
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
Now that was a good episode of Lost. Get the answer to the numbers and so much more information. What I have been waiting for.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: razzle-dazzle on February 17, 2010, 12:10:08 AM
I gave it a 9. After the snoozefest of last week, I was very happy this week.
Locke's funeral was so funny. It has to be one of my favorite scenes ever.
Seeing Ben as a teacher, seeing Rose work for Hurley, seeing a young Jacob, the numbers, etc. All of these little scenes added to the over all picture of the alt timeline.

This gave answers, provided humor, and was a great Locke and Sawyer episode.
If I knew if Sawyer was conning Flocke, I would have given it a 10.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: ozman776 on February 17, 2010, 12:49:10 AM
big 4.. mainly from a point of not quite understanding the flash "sideways" except for showing us that they still intermingle amognst each other and their lifes continue.... so what! i got hooked on the show for its on island experiences and quite frankly the off island living is kind of boring really... we get to see how their lives turned out... sorry not my cup of tea.... as for the numbers reveal, i was happy its shown and now have more questions than when i didnt know... so can we really expect in less than a year to see how thos puzzle works out... im of the thinking that we dont..if anything ill learn more on here than i will watching the episodes after the seasons done with...
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Holland34 on February 17, 2010, 02:56:02 AM
It could have been the worse episode ever and I would have rated it a 10.  I am participating in episode grade inflation for personal reasons.  What an awesome day for Lost!
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Sweet Old Lady on February 17, 2010, 03:21:03 AM
I loved it!  I give it a 9.  It's about time a character in the know finally answered some questions.  I'm still thinking MIB is a good guy.  I can't wait for next week!
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Ladybug on February 17, 2010, 09:04:00 AM
i gave it a 7.  it was good.  but not awesome.  i'm still a bit ticked that there are only a handfull of episodes left and we have sooo many questions hanging in the air. 
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 17, 2010, 10:28:18 AM
It could have been the worse episode ever and I would have rated it a 10.  I am participating in episode grade inflation for personal reasons.  What an awesome day for Lost!

Huh?
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Kurtis on February 17, 2010, 11:25:55 AM
i gave it a 7.  it was good.  but not awesome.  i'm still a bit ticked that there are only a handfull of episodes left and we have sooo many questions hanging in the air. 
I would say 12-13 more episodes is more than a handful...and I gave this episode a 9. This was classic LOST after last week's exercise in tedium. Thoroughly entertaining. Locke episodes usually deliver, and after last week it was nice to get away from both Kate and the Temple for a week while progressing the story line nicely.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: lovinlost on February 17, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
I gave it a 10, mainly for the adrenaline high I got watching the opening scene, all the hilarious laughs, and because I just LOVE Locke.  And hate unLocke.  And I don't know if he's good or bad.  I think this will set up Sawyer to possibly be the hero once again.  I love when Sawyer is given the chance to shine, after all the crap he pulled in life.  Which, come to think of it, can possibly be blamed on Jacob.  Hmmm.....

Anyway, this was an awesome ep!
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: JBRam on February 17, 2010, 01:37:26 PM
Ok, this was awesome. Just awesome. Definitely deserves a 10.

This episode was classic Lost. We got answers for those of you who have no faith in TPTB; we got questions for those of us who LOVE that part of the show; we had character development for those of us who started watching for the island plot but kept watching for the characters; and we had hilarity from nearly all of the characters.

In reply to ozman, we're learning what would have happened if they never met Jacob, in my opinion. That is something extremely important to learn.

And for the record, I am not participating in rating inflation. If I think the episode sucks, my rating will reflect that. I do not foresee a sucky episode, though.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Geronimo Jackson on February 17, 2010, 02:30:35 PM
Great episode finally some answers if can believe UnLocke, but also more questions.

Where was Kate's name . Did UnLocke not show it to Sawyer?  Does Jacob cross off the names or does Un Locke after he kills them?

So many questions

I think Richard knew  a lot more than he let on to UnLocke wasn't going to give anything away .

Great episode and  did you notice the black dark rock was weighing more than the pure white one before Un Locke tossed it away? Hmmm maybe Widmore was right and a big battle is coming or already here between good and evil.

Who was the kid?

Gave ita 9 as not a big fan of the other time line stories
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 17, 2010, 03:22:27 PM
Ok, this was awesome. Just awesome. Definitely deserves a 10.

This episode was classic Lost. We got answers for those of you who have no faith in TPTB; we got questions for those of us who LOVE that part of the show; we had character development for those of us who started watching for the island plot but kept watching for the characters; and we had hilarity from nearly all of the characters.

In reply to ozman, we're learning what would have happened if they never met Jacob, in my opinion. That is something extremely important to learn.

And for the record, I am not participating in rating inflation. If I think the episode sucks, my rating will reflect that. I do not foresee a sucky episode, though.
You gave the last ep a 10 also, so you are part of episode inflation. No way you can say both of these are 10's and mean it.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Holland34 on February 17, 2010, 04:34:48 PM
It could have been the worse episode ever and I would have rated it a 10.  I am participating in episode grade inflation for personal reasons.  What an awesome day for Lost!

Huh?
Sorry... mentioned this on a couple of other threads, but my daughter was born yesterday morning (4:06 AM) and I still got to watch Lost last night.  Even better, I got to watch it while holding my new daughter.  Automatically made the episode a 10 regardless of what was on the screen.  Yep... total episode inflation.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: laklost on February 17, 2010, 09:52:47 PM
Both of these last two episodes are 10s.  And I mean it.  I've completely decided about last week that so few people liked it because they think Kate's struggle about her relationships and her mothering Aaron are old hat.  They are integral to the story. And I will go on record saying that what Kate does might very well be the salvation of them all.

UnLocke acting like so much like Locke is the ultimate head trip.  The cave with the numbers and the names was epic.  10 10 10 10 10

Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 18, 2010, 01:10:15 AM
It could have been the worse episode ever and I would have rated it a 10.  I am participating in episode grade inflation for personal reasons.  What an awesome day for Lost!

Huh?
Sorry... mentioned this on a couple of other threads, but my daughter was born yesterday morning (4:06 AM) and I still got to watch Lost last night.  Even better, I got to watch it while holding my new daughter.  Automatically made the episode a 10 regardless of what was on the screen.  Yep... total episode inflation.
I could not agree with this more. That is an awesome day. I watch lost with my son and daughter every week. It is awesome they want to share my favorite show with me.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: JBRam on February 18, 2010, 08:26:28 PM
Ok, this was awesome. Just awesome. Definitely deserves a 10.

This episode was classic Lost. We got answers for those of you who have no faith in TPTB; we got questions for those of us who LOVE that part of the show; we had character development for those of us who started watching for the island plot but kept watching for the characters; and we had hilarity from nearly all of the characters.

In reply to ozman, we're learning what would have happened if they never met Jacob, in my opinion. That is something extremely important to learn.

And for the record, I am not participating in rating inflation. If I think the episode sucks, my rating will reflect that. I do not foresee a sucky episode, though.
You gave the last ep a 10 also, so you are part of episode inflation. No way you can say both of these are 10's and mean it.
Exactly. No POSSIBLE way... unless, ya know... I mean it. And yes, I thought last week's was awesome too. See my post for last week's rating to see.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 18, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
Ok, this was awesome. Just awesome. Definitely deserves a 10.

This episode was classic Lost. We got answers for those of you who have no faith in TPTB; we got questions for those of us who LOVE that part of the show; we had character development for those of us who started watching for the island plot but kept watching for the characters; and we had hilarity from nearly all of the characters.

In reply to ozman, we're learning what would have happened if they never met Jacob, in my opinion. That is something extremely important to learn.

And for the record, I am not participating in rating inflation. If I think the episode sucks, my rating will reflect that. I do not foresee a sucky episode, though.
You gave the last ep a 10 also, so you are part of episode inflation. No way you can say both of these are 10's and mean it.
Exactly. No POSSIBLE way... unless, ya know... I mean it. And yes, I thought last week's was awesome too. See my post for last week's rating to see.
Ya see there is where you lose credibility. Better to admit to making a mistake and moving on.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: JBRam on February 18, 2010, 09:12:44 PM
Thankfully I don't base my life on how you value my credibility. Seriously. Check out my rating and explanation, or even listen to my podcast. Both say that I loved the last episode. Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean that everyone else has to hate it. Even Lakie liked it.

So there.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on February 18, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
I gave it a seven 7
It was neither here or neither there but it was great to see Sawyer in his underwear  ;D

This had three of my favorite, well four of my favorite characters.  John Locke (LiL), Sawyer, Hugo and Rose.

This provided the season one meeting of rose and Locke and her disclosing her having cancer and knowing it was gone (if memory serves well) but here she says she has it accepts and moves on.  they bonded

Hugo and his generous behavior do I need to say more. 

It moved up two notches for me based on the fact that they are giving us just enough and keeping us pulled in for more. 

the story is evolving and I was happy to see that Sawyer called BS on MIB.  Right out straight.

They have not LOST me they are good at the foreplay

Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 19, 2010, 12:09:23 AM
Thankfully I don't base my life on how you value my credibility. Seriously. Check out my rating and explanation, or even listen to my podcast. Both say that I loved the last episode. Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean that everyone else has to hate it. Even Lakie liked it.

So there.
But you jugde your anger level by it. :D Settle down big guy. It is not just you. That was not a 10 worthy episode. Some people are caught up in the finale season are going gung ho on any thing presented. Most of us are looking a little more critically at the season. First 3 eps were weak lost episodes. This one was very good to great episode. We are moving in the right direction. Hopefully the season continues in this directions as we reach the end of the road.

I appreciate the invite, but I will pass on the podcast.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: BurkRoyer on February 19, 2010, 04:17:43 PM
10

Just watched it on DVR last night and loved it!

1. Loved scene with the smoke monster's perspective
2. Loved the cave of names
3. Loved the island boy
4. Loved the sideways Universe and all the intertwined lives of the Losties
5. Loved Sawyer's fearless character.  I think he knows exactly what he's doing.  He's playing the game.
6. Loved how Locke still seems to be a part of UnLocke.
7. Loved Ben's Eulogy for Locke - "...And I'm sorry I murdered him."
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: jugdish on February 19, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
Just watched it a second time and decided on the 10! Time jumper summed it up beautifully.
It really feels like the season just began with this episode. The foot is on the gas now!
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: E.S.B. on February 19, 2010, 11:07:09 PM
A big 10, this is one of my all-time Top 5.  There's nothing I can say that has not already been said.

Terry O'Quinn has been in only 2 episodes so far this year, and if he does not win an Emmy I will be livid.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Ladybug on February 20, 2010, 12:28:33 AM
I gave it a seven 7
It was neither here or neither there but it was great to see Sawyer in his underwear  ;D

This had three of my favorite, well four of my favorite characters.  John Locke (LiL), Sawyer, Hugo and Rose.

This provided the season one meeting of rose and Locke and her disclosing her having cancer and knowing it was gone (if memory serves well) but here she says she has it accepts and moves on.  they bonded

Hugo and his generous behavior do I need to say more. 

It moved up two notches for me based on the fact that they are giving us just enough and keeping us pulled in for more. 

the story is evolving and I was happy to see that Sawyer called BS on MIB.  Right out straight.

They have not LOST me they are good at the foreplay


FINALLY!  someone else who agrees with me!
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: LostinLock on February 20, 2010, 08:16:15 AM
I gave it a seven 7
It was neither here or neither there but it was great to see Sawyer in his underwear  ;D

This had three of my favorite, well four of my favorite characters.  John Locke (LiL), Sawyer, Hugo and Rose.

This provided the season one meeting of rose and Locke and her disclosing her having cancer and knowing it was gone (if memory serves well) but here she says she has it accepts and moves on.  they bonded

Hugo and his generous behavior do I need to say more. 

It moved up two notches for me based on the fact that they are giving us just enough and keeping us pulled in for more. 

the story is evolving and I was happy to see that Sawyer called BS on MIB.  Right out straight.

They have not LOST me they are good at the foreplay


FINALLY!  someone else who agrees with me!

I agree with all the points of alternate self, like he took it from my mind... but they have not reached a 10 for me.  Tough grading this final season.  A ten will be warranted if and when some other things happen
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: TheBrightandTheDark on February 20, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
I gave it a 10... For me, it isn't as good as or better than, say, The Constant, Walkabout, The Brig, etc., but it's definitely in my top 10 favorite episodes. I agree, Time-Jumper outlined it great:

1. Loved scene with the smoke monster's perspective
2. Loved the cave of names
3. Loved the island boy
4. Loved the sideways Universe and all the intertwined lives of the Losties
5. Loved Sawyer's fearless character.  I think he knows exactly what he's doing.  He's playing the game.
6. Loved how Locke still seems to be a part of UnLocke.
7. Loved Ben's Eulogy for Locke - "...And I'm sorry I murdered him."

But to expand on that, I loved Locke in the flash-sideways. On-island, he was always the person saying that we've gotta have faith. Now, everyone else is telling him that: Jack, Helen, Hurley, Rose, Ben... and the only time he yelled "Don't tell me what I can't do!" is when he's Fake-Locke. It's as though, in timeline X, Locke is accepting his destiny, even though it's something he may not like, whereas in the original timeline, he's struggling to fulfill a destiny that he decided he wants but isn't necessarily his actual destiny. I think he sums it up nicely when he says that a walkabout is "man versus nature", and he decided to stop fighting his nature.

I also like how we're getting flashes of Locke in MiB, but I really hope they don't make it seem like Locke's trapped in there, whole, and they can somehow help him overpower MiB to be alive again... ug, just writing that makes me a little queasy.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Cardacct on February 24, 2010, 02:01:10 AM
I gave it an 8.  It gets rated higher because it followed a Kate episode, and every episode seems awesome after a Kate episode.  I would say that the most enjoyable part of this episode was when they buried Locke.  The eulogy was awesome, and the whole group dynamic at the grave site was fantastic.
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: CastawayCayley on February 24, 2010, 02:06:24 AM
I gave it an 8.  It gets rated higher because it followed a Kate episode, and every episode seems awesome after a Kate episode.  I would say that the most enjoyable part of this episode was when they buried Locke.  The eulogy was awesome, and the whole group dynamic at the grave site was fantastic.

I agree with Carrie!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Episode 6x4 Rating
Post by: Cardacct on February 24, 2010, 02:10:39 AM
I gave it an 8.  It gets rated higher because it followed a Kate episode, and every episode seems awesome after a Kate episode.  I would say that the most enjoyable part of this episode was when they buried Locke.  The eulogy was awesome, and the whole group dynamic at the grave site was fantastic.

I agree with Carrie!!!  ;D

Thanks, Cayley!  Also, what Lil said and LB affirmed is true:  They are good at foreplay.