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Title: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jakstraw79 on February 06, 2010, 01:36:11 PM
anyone think this episode title will have something to do with kate trying to make amends for what she did?  also, will be it 2004 kate or 2007 kate?
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: lostlady on February 06, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
The plane landed in 2004 so I am guessing 2004...unless they fast forward three years. They might do that so both timelines will align to 2007.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on February 07, 2010, 01:45:27 AM
I predict that we will see her kill someone in much the same way as her step dad but it wont be her step dad.   Maybe Her ex lover. The one that she burried the time capsule with or even that guys new lover.  hmmmm.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jugdish on February 07, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Bostonlost on February 07, 2010, 03:30:51 AM
Why did that Federal Marshall have to go through customs?
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jamesl on February 07, 2010, 04:49:22 AM
we will see 2 timelines at once

in 2007
what kate does will have something to do with Sawyer and Jack

she will choose one or betray one or create a diversion for one or ...

in 2004
Kate will convince Claire not to give her baby up for adoption
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jakstraw79 on February 07, 2010, 08:35:51 AM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?

i guess since so much has changed in the 2004 parallel timeline that we cannot assume she killed her step-father.  i had not thought of that yet.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: BobBX542 on February 07, 2010, 11:17:13 AM
I'm hoping that "What Kate does" is die. I think we're ready for someone else to go.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: this is some crazy stuff on February 07, 2010, 04:13:44 PM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?

Yea I got that.  i was just saying that we would get some kind of back story on who she killed.  Thats why I was saying it may not be her step dad this time around.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: westy185 on February 07, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
What she does is put Claire in danger. Claire and her baby. We know this from the previous episode and I'm guessing this will be part of what she does in this episode.

Which goes back to Claire's contact with the fortune teller. "Keep the baby" "don't keep the baby." Doesn't he talk about how Claire MUST raise Aaron? Then he changes his mind, supposedly arranges for an adoption and gives her a plane ticket. Perhaps the break in timelines confused his visions of the future and he's misread what he's supposed to be warning her about and has put her in the path of danger (Kate). Later, of course, we see the same man telling Mr. Echo (is he on the plane?) that fortune telling is just a bunch of B.S.

Could this episode tie up some major Claire/Aaron/fortune teller loose ends? Maybe Echo will get dragged in, too. (I hope - he was one of my favorite characters.)
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: BobBX542 on February 08, 2010, 12:00:14 PM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?

Yea I got that.  i was just saying that we would get some kind of back story on who she killed.  Thats why I was saying it may not be her step dad this time around.

Am I missing something?? Are we saying that Kate killed her step dad (the dude in the army recruitment office) in the alternate timeline, or her real dad that she thought was her step dad (the creepy pervert dude she blew up in the house)??

I'm asking mainly because this alternate timeline thing is going to get super confusing anyway, and if some of us are posting and referencing characters, but referencing them incorrectly, it's going to get even more confusing.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: lostlady on February 08, 2010, 02:13:50 PM
They are saying that instead of exploding the house with her "step dad that was her real dad" inside--perhaps somethings changed in this new reality and instead she killed someone else.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: BobBX542 on February 08, 2010, 04:07:08 PM
They are saying that instead of exploding the house with her "step dad that was her real dad" inside--perhaps somethings changed in this new reality and instead she killed someone else.

Then can we just call him her real dad?? As in the following sentence...

"In the episode of LOST entitled 'What Kate Did' she killed her dad by blowing up the house he was sleeping in."

Please?? Because all of this "her dad she thought was her stepdad, and then found out was her real dad" and "Her stepdad that she thought was her real dad but was really her stepdad" stuff is going to give us all a head ache.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: lostlady on February 08, 2010, 10:43:06 PM
LOL--OK, I guess things with this show are confusing enough........ ;D
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Post by: grizn0 on February 09, 2010, 01:36:17 PM
I'm going to guess that she's going to deliver Claire's baby... again.
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Post by: CaseyMac on February 09, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?

Yea I got that.  i was just saying that we would get some kind of back story on who she killed.  Thats why I was saying it may not be her step dad this time around.

There is a video from the Lost Comic-Con panel that Darlton played that I think sheds light on the subject of who she killed. It might be counted as spoiler so I will say nothing. Either way, it sounds like in a few hours we'll see anyways.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Adriana on February 09, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
She obviously has already killed someone. She is in custody on the plane and he says she is a killer. But who did she kill?

Yea I got that.  i was just saying that we would get some kind of back story on who she killed.  Thats why I was saying it may not be her step dad this time around.

There is a video from the Lost Comic-Con panel that Darlton played that I think sheds light on the subject of who she killed. It might be counted as spoiler so I will say nothing. Either way, it sounds like in a few hours we'll see anyways.

Am I allowed to post the link to the spoiler on YouTube?  If so, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQXuiCge-wI&NR=1.  If not -- don't look at at!
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jamesl on February 09, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
ah !
thanks for posting that video link
never saw that before
I wonder if it is related to tonight's episode
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Madam P on February 09, 2010, 09:44:31 PM
***averts eyes***  don'tlookdon'tlookdon'tlook...

In "What Kate Did," didn't we get to see a lot of what she did when she was on the run, right after she killed her Real Dad and was trying to get away from the marshall?  So it looked like at the end of "LA X" she was going on the run again.  Maybe we'll see how they compare...
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Jungle Otter on February 09, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
Well, Kate is a little more hard-core in the "new" timeline - pullin a gun on a pregnant lady? Dude that's harsh....
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: vickilynn on February 09, 2010, 11:03:52 PM
And we didn't really find out what she did before she got arrested
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jamesl on February 09, 2010, 11:08:59 PM
you could watch the link posted above :)
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jugdish on February 09, 2010, 11:16:30 PM
I have this as a topic in the spoiler thread. Not sure if it is going to come up in the show or not. Producers did introduce it but that does not mean it will be a story line.

Kate does get involved with Claire and the baby as does Ethan. So off island timeline sort of mimics on island time.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: jugdish on February 09, 2010, 11:23:54 PM
Here is the link to the spoilerish topic. Please discuss this topic in the spoiler thread not here.
http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php/topic,10206.0.html
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Astriastar on February 10, 2010, 04:18:43 AM
I'm hoping that "What Kate does" is die. I think we're ready for someone else to go.

I'm with you.  I can't stand her.  She's a meddler, and she seems to be the cause of most of the other survivors' problems.  Why couldn't it have been her instead of Juliet??
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: ericd543 on February 10, 2010, 05:01:27 AM
we will see 2 timelines at once

in 2007
what kate does will have something to do with Sawyer and Jack

she will choose one or betray one or create a diversion for one or ...

in 2004
Kate will convince Claire not to give her baby up for adoption


Excellent predictions. The first one has a Nostradamus vagueness but I believe she is back on track with Jack now.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: zeekloveslost on February 10, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
I'm not watching the video/spoiler. So knowing that, here's my thought/theory:

In the Alternate timeline (X), Kate doesn't actually kill anyone but is accused of it. I am only thinking this because #1 - things are different in this timeline, and #2 when Claire asks her what she had done, Kate replies "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent?"

I'd have to go back and check transcripts, but int his timeline, does Kate every say "I killed someone" or is it always "I'm wanted for murder."  Those are 2 very different things.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: vickilynn on February 10, 2010, 02:00:02 PM
I'm not watching the video/spoiler. So knowing that, here's my thought/theory:

In the Alternate timeline (X), Kate doesn't actually kill anyone but is accused of it. I am only thinking this because #1 - things are different in this timeline, and #2 when Claire asks her what she had done, Kate replies "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent?"

I'd have to go back and check transcripts, but int his timeline, does Kate every say "I killed someone" or is it always "I'm wanted for murder."  Those are 2 very different things.

My thoughts also. We are never told that she actually killed someone, just that she is wanted for murder.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: trodge on February 11, 2010, 09:28:43 AM
I'm not watching the video/spoiler. So knowing that, here's my thought/theory:

In the Alternate timeline (X), Kate doesn't actually kill anyone but is accused of it. I am only thinking this because #1 - things are different in this timeline, and #2 when Claire asks her what she had done, Kate replies "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent?"

I'd have to go back and check transcripts, but int his timeline, does Kate every say "I killed someone" or is it always "I'm wanted for murder."  Those are 2 very different things.

My thoughts also. We are never told that she actually killed someone, just that she is wanted for murder.

I agree with both of you on this, the fact that she said she was innocent really bothers me.  Blowing up the house your dad was in, well it's pretty tough to see how exactly you're innocent...you blew him up...

But in this timeline maybe her mom snapped and had enough of the abuse...
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: CaseyMac on February 11, 2010, 02:41:52 PM
I'm not watching the video/spoiler. So knowing that, here's my thought/theory:

In the Alternate timeline (X), Kate doesn't actually kill anyone but is accused of it. I am only thinking this because #1 - things are different in this timeline, and #2 when Claire asks her what she had done, Kate replies "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent?"

I'd have to go back and check transcripts, but int his timeline, does Kate every say "I killed someone" or is it always "I'm wanted for murder."  Those are 2 very different things.

My thoughts also. We are never told that she actually killed someone, just that she is wanted for murder.

I agree with both of you on this, the fact that she said she was innocent really bothers me.  Blowing up the house your dad was in, well it's pretty tough to see how exactly you're innocent...you blew him up...

But in this timeline maybe her mom snapped and had enough of the abuse...

Great points. Back in season 1, Kate was going to admit to Jack what she had done, when he stopped her saying something like, "It doesn't matter what happened in the past."

In bizarro world, Kate is still playing the "I didn't do it" card. Maybe she really is innocent this time around. Then again, if you are innocent do you run? *cough* OJ *cough*
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Adriana on February 11, 2010, 06:30:21 PM

I agree with both of you on this, the fact that she said she was innocent really bothers me.  Blowing up the house your dad was in, well it's pretty tough to see how exactly you're innocent...you blew him up...

But in this timeline maybe her mom snapped and had enough of the abuse...

What she actually said was "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent?"  Very different from "I'm innocent."  Evasive language!!!


Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Mrs Hume on February 11, 2010, 07:15:12 PM
I thought we found out who she killed?! I don't remember if I heard it in the episode or if someone told me now.  I guess I wont say in case I am wrong or it was told to me and I was spoiled and didn't know it. or maybe it was someones theory and i misread it as fact. oh now this is going to bother me. i'll have to come back here once I figure this out.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: CaseyMac on February 11, 2010, 07:26:23 PM
I thought we found out who she killed?! I don't remember if I heard it in the episode or if someone told me now.  I guess I wont say in case I am wrong or it was told to me and I was spoiled and didn't know it. or maybe it was someones theory and i misread it as fact. oh now this is going to bother me. i'll have to come back here once I figure this out.

I think I know what you are talking about Mrs. Hume, and yeah, it may or may not be spoiler, so I'd err on the side of keeping mum on it.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: Mrs Hume on February 11, 2010, 07:29:25 PM
oh good well the good news then is at least I'm not crazy. well.... not in ref to this anyway/ lol   I just checked the transcripts to the last three epi's and didn't see it so i guess i was wrong.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: BobBX542 on February 13, 2010, 01:05:49 AM
I'm hoping that "What Kate does" is die. I think we're ready for someone else to go.

I'm with you.  I can't stand her.  She's a meddler, and she seems to be the cause of most of the other survivors' problems.  Why couldn't it have been her instead of Juliet??

I think the cult against Kate is growing...IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!! MWU-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: LouE68 on February 13, 2010, 01:11:39 AM
too bad she's basically the last female main role, so she aint going anywhere...mwahahaha

long live Kate!!!! ;D
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: BobBX542 on February 13, 2010, 01:55:17 AM
too bad she's basically the last female main role, so she aint going anywhere...mwahahaha

long live Kate!!!! ;D

Hey, I'll hate her alive or dead. I still can't stand Michael, Nikki, Paulo, or Juliette.
Title: Re: What Kate Does vs What Kate Did?
Post by: LouE68 on February 14, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
So it looks like her "love interest" is no longer with Jack or Sawyer...Kate is all about Aaron...
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Post by: BobBX542 on February 15, 2010, 10:11:40 AM
So it looks like her "love interest" is no longer with Jack or Sawyer...Kate is all about Aaron...

That is really creepy. I mean, I have heard of pedophilia, but jeez, kid is still in-utero.
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Post by: lovinlost on February 15, 2010, 11:48:04 AM
I thought we found out who she killed?! I don't remember if I heard it in the episode or if someone told me now.  I guess I wont say in case I am wrong or it was told to me and I was spoiled and didn't know it. or maybe it was someones theory and i misread it as fact. oh now this is going to bother me. i'll have to come back here once I figure this out.

It was pretty much assumed after Comic Con (I think) footage was released about Kate.  The producers were there and showed a video.  Of course, they did not explain it, so it could always be a red herring.  Will we ever know?  Not sure.