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Episode Discussion (Spoiler Free) => Season 6 => Episode 6x16 => Topic started by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 11:59:51 AM

Title: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 11:59:51 AM
I think they all died with the crash of 815 and they were being tested in a kind of purgatory. Here are some hints, No women could have babies on the island,cancers and other ailments were cured, and the island was difficult to leave.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: MachThree on May 24, 2010, 12:04:04 PM
Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 12:07:24 PM
Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.
I Agree with you as well but I was just saying they were dead the whole time. They could have lived in this other dimension known as the "island" with mystical powers but Dead is Dead.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: Des on May 24, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
No... they weren't already dead. What happened on the island, happened.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: MachThree on May 24, 2010, 12:22:45 PM
Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.
I Agree with you as well but I was just saying they were dead the whole time. They could have lived in this other dimension known as the "island" with mystical powers but Dead is Dead.
I need to rewatch tonight but I am pretty sure Christian affirmed that everything that happened on the island took place in reality.  They were not dead at that time.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: vickilynn on May 24, 2010, 12:23:54 PM
Ben pretty much said it was tough to leave because Jacob made it that way.  Why it healed people - see the Rose / Bernard flashback episode - that faith healer in Australia explained certain pockets of energy around the world have a healing effect.  We know the island had a big energy pocket.  As to the fertility issue, I've no idea.
I Agree with you as well but I was just saying they were dead the whole time. They could have lived in this other dimension known as the "island" with mystical powers but Dead is Dead.
I need to rewatch tonight but I am pretty sure Christian affirmed that everything that happened on the island took place in reality.  They were not dead at that time.
Except for Christian, who WAS dead at that time :)
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: I_Am_Jacob on May 24, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
I think they all died with the crash of 815 and they were being tested in a kind of purgatory. Here are some hints, No women could have babies on the island,cancers and other ailments were cured, and the island was difficult to leave.

They were not all dead. All those other things there can be explained with critical thinking.....Uh-oh getting cranky. Off for some caffeine.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: opgelost on May 24, 2010, 01:45:56 PM
I think they all died with the crash of 815 and they were being tested in a kind of purgatory. Here are some hints, No women could have babies on the island,cancers and other ailments were cured, and the island was difficult to leave.

And than they died again on the island?
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: MachThree on May 24, 2010, 01:58:04 PM
I think they all died with the crash of 815 and they were being tested in a kind of purgatory. Here are some hints, No women could have babies on the island,cancers and other ailments were cured, and the island was difficult to leave.

And than they died again on the island?
No, I mean, in the island timeline, everyone still on the island (really only Ben and Hurley) were still alive at the end of the episode.  The implication was they later died.  Those that left on the Ajira plane its also implied lived their lives and died at some later point.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: Lostatwork on May 24, 2010, 02:14:32 PM
Don't forget... Claire gave birth on the island! 
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: opgelost on May 24, 2010, 02:18:12 PM
And Sun got pregnant.
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 24, 2010, 02:32:32 PM
Don't forget... Claire gave birth on the island! 
does Amy count?
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 02:47:56 PM
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: lostlady on May 24, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven

No, she got pregnant on a real island. It was the alt timeline that was the waiting room
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 02:53:08 PM
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven

No, she got pregnant on a real island. It was the alt timeline that was the waiting room
"waiting room" was figurative...
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 24, 2010, 02:53:47 PM
no
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven

When she was on the island, got pregnant left the island and had Ji Yeon that was all real.

The baby sun was pregnant with when she was shot by Keamy... I have no idea why she was pregnant actually... especially if it's the soul of Ji Yeon who has died at some point in her life, probably as an adult and then moves over to the afterlife as a fetus... ???
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: medusa_eyes on May 24, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
no
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven

When she was on the island, got pregnant left the island and had Ji Yeon that was all real.

The baby sun was pregnant with when she was shot by Keamy... I have no idea why she was pregnant actually... especially if it's the soul of Ji Yeon who has died at some point in her life, probably as an adult and then moves over to the afterlife as a fetus... ???
don't get it twisted... People were brought on the island for a chance at redemption from hell. They were flawed in some way. In their minds life continued...love, relationships, etc.. However in reality they were a bunch of dead people living in denial. Its just a theory... Don't get all worked up...
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: CastawayCayley on May 24, 2010, 03:05:20 PM
I don't see where I'm all worked up and I guess I don't understand what point you're making. Do you believe the whole six season involved dead people in purgatory?
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: sobrien on May 24, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
no
And Sun got pregnant.
On this "mystical" island/ waiting room..... for heaven

When she was on the island, got pregnant left the island and had Ji Yeon that was all real.

The baby sun was pregnant with when she was shot by Keamy... I have no idea why she was pregnant actually... especially if it's the soul of Ji Yeon who has died at some point in her life, probably as an adult and then moves over to the afterlife as a fetus... ???
don't get it twisted... People were brought on the island for a chance at redemption from hell. They were flawed in some way. In their minds life continued...love, relationships, etc.. However in reality they were a bunch of dead people living in denial. Its just a theory... Don't get all worked up...

They were not dead on the island.  otherwise the Oceanic 6 "got better" when they got off the island, then "re-died" when they went back?

The island (Jacob) brought imperfect people to the island on 815.  In the island they evolved as people, most got better.  The crisis and general weirdness made that change in them.  But it was "real."
Title: Re: No Babies on Island = Already DEAD
Post by: lostlady on May 24, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
definitely a real island with real people. What happened, happened