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Episode 6x16 / The only thing I'm going to post about the finale
« on: May 24, 2010, 01:52:35 PM »
Without getting into all the issues I'm sure people are having, the only things I have to say about the finale are these final thoughts. Feel free to respond, I'm probably not going to be checking on the replies.

1) I liked it. I thought it was interesting how they took everyone insisting that the island was purgatory, and used that for what the side flash was (maybe not the actual purgatory, but something close to it).

2) I'm glad that Kate finally did SOMETHING.

Later on guys, it's been fun talking to you.

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Episode 6x15 / Am I the only one that noticed about Desmond??
« on: May 19, 2010, 12:08:38 PM »
Okay, now I'm not even really sure where this thought is going, but did anyone else notice that the stuff that Desmond said to Stalagtite face and Sayid in the back of the police van was the exact same thing that MiB said to Richard when Richard was shackled in the ship?? I mean, is it possible that TPTB are going to sac up and perhaps show us that the good guys don't win and Desmond is some sort of bad guy in the Off-island time line??

I don't know if I want to make this leap at the moment, but perhaps sending Desmond into the cave of light (if that's what he's there for, and does in fact even happen) turns him into another form of the smoke monster.


EDIT EDIT EDIT: My fault guys. I kind of put forth the impression that Desmond used the exact quote as MiB did in Ab Aeterno, but he didn't. That's my fault. both things said by both characters eqaute out to "I'll help you out if you promise to do what I say." The main thing about these two scenes is that neither MiB or Desmond made any movement to offer any help until the promises were made, that's what made me catch it and notice it in the first place.

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Episode 6x14 / I think I might have figured out "The Loophole"
« on: May 13, 2010, 03:30:50 PM »
Okay, this just came to me a little while ago, thanks to something nomteticus said. His intention might be completely different than what I thought he was saying, but regardless, what he said sparked the thought, so here it goes...

Apparently, only the island protector can find the cave. So yeah, if Jack will be the new island protector he could lead Desmond to the cave, and Desmond could fool Smokey into entering the cave after him.
The only problem is I don't want Smokey to die, I want him to escape.  :)

Okay, so that is what was said, and this is the thought it put into my head.

-Now let's go with the idea that only the island protector can find/see "The Light".

-IF that's the case, then I think John Locke was originally suppossed to be the one who takes over the role of protector because when he saw Smokey waaaaaaaaay back in S1, he said that he saw a beautiful light blah blah blah (I'm not going to do the exact quote, because we all should know what I'm talking about).

-So MiB went into the cave where the light was (how he got there, and his condition when he got there is not relevant). Now we don't know for sure what happened (the light went into him, and transformed him; the light took away all his goodness leaving only the evil smoke; the light was actually not the goodness in man, but the evil; etc) when he went into the cave, so at the very least, let's say that he had an interaction with the power that was inside the cave. Due to this interaction, MiB/Smokey now retains some of/all of this power.

-Fast forward a few hundred, or thousand years (which ever you prefer).

-Smokey, being evil, decided to kill the crap out of the survivors of Oceanic 815 one day, comes across Locke out and about in the jungle and attacks him. Locke apparently isn't scared of it, and Smokey knows that something is going on with him, and scans him (presumably), and knows that Locke can see that he [MiB] has the light in him, so he retreats to devise his plan.

-Then he figures out how he can get the satisfaction of killing Jacob himself, but still not break the rule of not being able to hurt his brother. He "just knows" that the only person that can kill Jacob is the person that will most likely take his place (cantidate).

-So at another point in S1, Smokey tries to drag Locke down into the ground so he can kill him and take his form and get close enough to the Others to be trusted and taken to Jacob so he can kill him. This unfortunately does not work because Jack and Kate have the dynamite and throw a little monkey wrench into the plan.

-So he bides his time until he can either kill Locke, or just get access to his dead body. And lo and Behold, the island begins to travel through time, which in effect allows Smokey to take the form of Locke because at some point in the future, he is dead (this in effect removes the paradoxes surrounding the compass[es] and the chicken/egg problem with Locke telling himself he has to die).

-So he takes Locke's form, then tells himself (via Richard) that he needs to die in order to bring all of the remaining cantidates back to the island so he can make sure they are dead as well (because they are still "able" to take Jacob's place as long as they are alive).

I'm pretty sure this covers what could be considered a loophole. I'm most deffinitely open to anyone who wants to trash the idea, tweak it, point out any flaws. I had so many things running through my head as I was writing this, I'm sure I left out one or two bits of evidence.

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Season 6 / Too damn funny to not post
« on: May 10, 2010, 10:08:31 AM »
Guys, I wish I could take the credit for this, I really do, but check it out...

http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2010/05/lost-creators-vs-muppets/anti-locke-brakes

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Season 6 / About the sunken island
« on: May 07, 2010, 10:17:18 AM »
This thought just popped into my head, and at 9:15 in the morning, that is quite an accomplishment for me. But this just occurred to me, in S1, we find out that the plane was off course and turning around to head back to Australia when it ended up on the Mysterious Island of Mysterious Mysteries. BUT, in S6E01 we see that Oceanic 815 flies right over the island, no?? I don't know if this is as important as it seems to me, but I just thought I would throw that out there in case no one else noticed it.

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Season 6 / Am I reading the air dates correctly??
« on: April 14, 2010, 11:01:49 AM »
Um, this might seem kind of straight forward, but up there on the episode air dates "The Last Recruit" is set to air on 4/20/10 and then 2 WEEKS LATER "The Cantidate" is set to air on 5/4/10. Is this correct?? Because if so, this totally blows. I thought we were getting a straight run through to the end.

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Episode 6x08 / Cerberus idea
« on: March 24, 2010, 09:50:02 PM »
Okay, here we go with another scatter brain idea. So waaaaaaaaaay back in S3, episode "Left Behind" we see what appears to be Smokey appear from three different directions. Well this seemed to throw a few of us into a tizzy (Myself included). What does it mean?? How is it possible?? Did Oswald act alone?? Well I think in conjunction with the episode from a few weeks ago, "The Substitute" we might be a little closer to understanding that. We found out last night that MIB and possibly Jacob can turn into a Smokey, so maybe, just maybe, the little kid that we saw in "The Substitute", or more appropriately who/whatever he represents can also change into a Smokey. Now my logic is this, it has been said that the three heads of the mythological Cerberus represent (and can see) the past, present, and future, so in an abstract way, I think the three people also represent this.

Let's say that the little kid is the smokey that scans people, this would represent the head of Cerberus that can see the past. Jacob could be the thing that Locke saw back in S1 that he described as being the eye of the island, which might be the head of Cerberus that sees future. Finally, MIB is the one that kills, and could represent the head that sees the present. Another reason that they might be calling it Cerberus is because if some people (Richard, Cooper, possibly others) call the island hell, Cerberus is traditionally the guardian of the underworld. This might be more of a situational thing, and not "factual", sort of like being on a boat and calling the captain Skipper (sorry, the stranded on an island thing makes me think of Gilligan's island, it just can't be helped).

Thoughts??

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Episode 6x08 / Why did he break the bottle??
« on: March 24, 2010, 07:10:01 PM »
This might seem like an obvious answer, but before you throw the whole, "The wine represented the evil escaping" thing at me, keep this in mind, MIB wasn't on the beach when Jacob explained that to Richard. Also, I know that the scene was for us (the viewers) but MIB doesn't know we're watching; He's a fictional man in a TV show. So I have a few ideas that I think might contradict each other, but here we go, let me know what sounds ridiculous, or plausible.

1) At some point MIB was in the same position as Richard, and Jacob gave him the same metaphor about the wine in the bottle, and when he gave MIB the bottle, he was all sorts of pissed that Jacob was "doing it again" and smashed the bottle. This idea seems to hold water when you take a few things into consideration. First of all, when Jacob asked about the gift (white stone), MIB told him, "Don't gloat, it doesn't look good on you", and rubbing in the fact that he "got another one" might have made him extremely angry. Also, MIB told Richard that Jacob stole his body, and maybe he meant that MIB was once his "servant", and when Jacob was done with him, he disposed of his actual body, and that's why he can't leave. It could also explain why MIB told him to not let Jacob talk to him. Not because of some magic spell that would prevent him from killing him, but because he didn't want Richard to have the same fate.

2) He really hated Jacob's fancy bottle.

Okay, I swear when I came up with this idea, I had at least one other good explanation, so if I think of it, I'll add it in later with ADDITIONAL REASONING: followed by the thought.

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Episode 6x06 / Why Smokey picked Locke
« on: March 11, 2010, 12:26:56 PM »
Hey guys, didn't know if this fits in with this episode, but I guess why the hell not?? So anyway, I was posting in another thread, and this started coming out of my head...

...Now we are assuming that Locke was dead when he hit the ground after being thrown out of the building, but what if that isn't the case?? Maybe he was alive and just blacked out/unconcious and snapped out of it when Jacob touched him. I personally think he was dead, and Jacob "Lazerus man-ed" him, but the possibility is always there...

Now like I said in that post, I believe that Locke was kaput once he hit the ground, so it sort of just popped into my head, that maybe this is why Smokey had to take Locke's form. He died and was brought back to life by Jacob. Because he was "already dead", Smokey could take his shape, but because he was brought back to life previously, Smokey couldn't take away the body.

If this has been already brought up, let me know, because I feel so smart right now, and there is nothing worse than a false sense of superiority.

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LOST Talk / Nothing to do with anything, except PURE AWESOME
« on: March 10, 2010, 03:37:40 PM »
This is quite possibly the best thing I have seen all day, and that includes the three ninja fights that happened in my office...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd6n_5XKVxo&feature=PlayList&p=3D93896776344928&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

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Episode 6x06 / ALMOST TIME!!
« on: March 09, 2010, 03:16:17 PM »
Only 6 hours and 45 minutes (approximately) left. Who is psyched?? I'm thinking that we actually won't see Ben die tonight, but I'm hoping for some kind of significant info regarding Ben's off-island activities.

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LOST Talk / This is groundbreaking...sort of LOL
« on: February 18, 2010, 01:19:15 PM »
okay, so I don't know who is a fan of Fringe on here. I like it, but am now where near as interested with it as I am with LOST, but I found this little tidbit of video interesting...

http://www.fox.com/watch/fringe/65122410001

Seeing as how the past few episodes of Fringe have been dealing with the whole different universe theory, I think that this could be key. LOL

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Spoiler Theories and Speculation / Sun and Jin
« on: February 17, 2010, 07:07:50 PM »
I usually try to avoid this part of the site like the plague, but there is something I am dying to know, and I don't think I can hold out any longer. Does anyone know for sure when Sun and Jin are going to be reunited?? This has been building for almost a season and a half, and I get the feeling that they are going to keep stringing us along. Please, if anyone knows, tell me.

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Episode 6x03 / Telling the truth or not??
« on: February 17, 2010, 12:38:31 PM »
So, here is something I haven't seen anyone really touch on this morning. Is On-island Locke (I know it's not really Locke, but that's whose body MIB has taken over, so that's what I'm calling him) telling the truth or what?? I really want to believe everything he's telling Sawyer and Richard, but it seems to me that the only thing he has told the truth about so far is that he's the Smoke Monster.

I guess my overall topic here for discussion is what do you think On-island Locke has said that is the truth??

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LOST Talk / Don't know if there is a place for this....
« on: February 08, 2010, 10:09:42 PM »
Hey guys, I don't know if there is a particular place for links and what not, but I just saw this, and I'll be damned if it isn't fitting...

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1928946

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