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Episode 3x20 / Re: DOES LOCKE BECOME JACOB ?
« on: May 12, 2007, 12:07:56 AM »
It was Ben's idea to have Locke kill his dad. Probably some weird twisted thinking on Ben's part since Ben killed his own father.

I'm starting to think Roger (Ben's Father) is Jacob.....some sort of weird Psycho the Movie thing, but a dad instead of a mother.

Episode 3x20 / Re: SOME INFO ON JACOB
« on: May 12, 2007, 12:01:45 AM »
Maybe Jacob is really a Ghost of a wig.

Episode 3x20 / Re: Natives co-mingle with DHARMA
« on: May 11, 2007, 11:53:51 PM »
There's something definitely up with Richard. He didn't age at all, he's manipulating things behind Ben back.....telling Locke how to kill his dad. I think Richard might even know that Ben's wasn't born on the island. When young Ben first meets Richard, young Ben tells Richard that his Mom is dead, and died off the Island when Ben was a baby.

The Dharma guy who brings Ben's Father to the island tells Ben's father that the hostiles are the local natives, and they (Dharma) don't really know who they (Hostiles) are.

The weird thing is why is Richard following Ben, and is all shocked when Ben & Locke were going to see Jacob? And why does Ben scoff when Locke says he's going to ask Richard about Jacob. Ben doesn't really seem mystified about Richard not aging.....but then again, Ben did ask Richard does he remember what Birthdays are, maybe hinting that Richard doesn't age.

Perhaps Richard is really the leader of the Others and is ruling from the shadows. All this Jacob stuff is BS hes doing to manipulate Ben.

Richard also seemed to have popped out of nowhere when Young Ben first meets him. Young Ben was an open clearing, how did Richard get so close so fast?

Richard = Smokie? LOL!

Episode 3x20 / Re: Screencap/Investigations Request
« on: May 11, 2007, 11:26:31 PM »
Beretta Brand Name Pistol. When Alex hands the pistol to Locke (12:29)

Looks like the Beretta Logo is visible on the grips. Beretta's Logo is three arrows pointed straight up with circles behind the arrows:

This would mean the others got ahold of their own guns from somewhere.....possible one of the guns from the Marshall on Flight 815? (I don't recall what other guns he had, only remember a Sig Sauer)

From what I remember, I believe all the Dharma guns had the Dharma logo on it? The Gun Desmond was about to shoot himself with in the Hatch clearly had Dharma markings on it.

Episode 3x20 / Re: Screencap/Investigations Request
« on: May 11, 2007, 11:13:13 PM »
Timex Indiglo Watch. Ben looks at his watch before he Gases his father. (36:29)

Timex Indiglo watches was introduced in 1992 as per Wikipedia:

So the purge must have occured in or after 1992. Strange that Ben has a Timex watch instead of a Dharma Logo watch, as Dharma likes putting their own logo on everything, including guns.

Edit: Had originally thought it was Richard's watch, it was actually Ben's watch which was a Timex.

Episode 3x20 / Re: Screencap/Investigations Request
« on: May 11, 2007, 11:08:19 PM »
Book "The Stone Leopard" by Colin Forbes. In the school house when the others attack and a girl with red hair is shown. (13:42)

This book was written in 1975. I believe the attack on Dharma during this scene may have occured in 1975. as Ben is about 10 to 15 years old at this time.....add about 30 years to Ben is about 40 to 45 years old now.

Book Description I found on the 'net:
An assassination attempt on the President of the Republic; rumours circulating of an impending coup d'etat and a dying man whispering a codename - "The Leopard". Prefect of the Paris police, Marc Grelle guesses there's a connection that could tear France apart.

Seems to have some parallels, Locke is becoming the new leader of the others, Ben tries to "assassinate" Locke, as Locke is "dying" he tells Ben the what Jacob said to him.

Episode 3x17 / Re: Screencap/Investigations Request
« on: April 23, 2007, 04:06:02 AM »
Requesting Screen Shot of Desmond at Ex-GF: Ruth's place sipping tea.

Looks like there's a Painting in the background with Frosty the Snowman. Reference to the "What did one snow man say to the other snowman" line that Desmond got from Kelvin Inmen?

Odd to have a painting of frosty the snowman in somebody's house.

Episode 3x15 / Re: Locke's Behavior!
« on: April 06, 2007, 07:00:56 AM »
I agree, the Others may know the Losties' histories but they don't know the whole story. Just like how the Sherriff Isabella reads Jack's Tatoos and thinks she knows what it means, but it doesn't mean what it says.

I believe the Others are reading Kate's Police Records, and it probably just paint Kate as a baddie. Probably says Kate killed her father, with no reason why she did it. Says that she shot the guy at the bank, thinking that Kate will even betray her own partners....but not saying she did it to save innocents.

As for Locke, maybe he's acting weird because he ate the Chicken at Ben's house. We know that Claire was acting weird when Ethan kidnapped her, she couldn't remember the Losties. Claire was getting pumped full of that Drug. Maybe the Others put that drug into their food!  =)

Episode 3x15 / Re: The Others Disappeared
« on: April 06, 2007, 06:31:15 AM »
Maybe they left because Locke's the Leader now, and he hates how the Others have been "cheating" by living in houses with chicken and Electricity......Locke says it back to being savages for the Others!  LOL!

Episode 3x15 / Re: Juliet Marked for Death???
« on: April 06, 2007, 06:08:04 AM »
What if being marked was some sort of Tracking Device, some sort of device or Radiation Signature in Juliett so when Juliett got off the Island they can find her again or pull her through the "Box" back onto the Island. As mentioned before, what's the point marking her if she's going to get off the Island on the Sub.

Ben didn't know Juliett was in a trail for execution until Jack went and told him. The Mark probably wasn't a substituion for death, Ben probably just wanted to use the excuse to "mark" her with a tracking device. Ben promised to let her off the island, but didn't really want to see her go because they have a history. Ben said to John there's people who love and want to be on the Island but haven't made a committment yet. He's probably talking about Juliett. When Ben was telling John how he was screwed with the Sub & letting Jack go would be the end of him, he was probably equally screwed he had to honor his agreement of letting Juliett go. So he was super pleased John was going to blow up the Sub, it would take care of all his problems. Maybe that's why he can't walk either, he was super depressed about promising to let Jack & Juliett go and also his people were thinking he's weak. He was losing he can't walk anymore (or rather, wasn't healing).

Ben seems like he still has a thing for Juliett. When Jack tells Ben they're going to execute Juliett he had a super serious look like he was thinking "WTF", and when Jack tells him that he wants Ben to stop the execution.....Ben seems to figure out that Jack has feelings for Juliett and tell Jack that Juliett's one of them and she doesn't care about Jack......sounded like Ben was saying "Juliett's my girl" to Jack. It would make sense that Ben doesn't show that much emotion about the jealously or still having a thing for Juliett as we see Ben is very emotionless with Alex being mad at him, while we can tell he really cares about her.

Episode 3x15 / Re: Smokie and the Fence/Does Smokey = Cerberus
« on: April 06, 2007, 05:07:27 AM »
If Juliet really did camouflage herself and Kate from Smokie/Cerberus/The Monster by intentionally tripping into the mud, could that be why we got our first impressions of the Others as barefoot, dirty savages in the jungle? Do they travel that way when outside of Otherville because it's harder for Smokie to see them?

I think the Fence is an Electromagnetic Fence......not a Microwave, not a sonic fence. The "Sonic" hum could just be the electricity powering up the magnetic coils or whatever is in the posts. Dharma was experimenting with Electromagnetism after all. Smokie is probably a mechanical/robotic/nanotech construct such would be suceptible to Electromagnetism. So I would guess that once Smokie reached the Electromagnetic Fence, he got repelled.......which is why it looks like he hit a stone wall instead of getting zapped.

It almost looked like Smokie was confused after he hit the fence, he kind of spread out sideways slowly.....and then took off. Why didn't he go over the fence? Maybe Smokie couldn't see past the Electromagnetic Fence when it he's chasing Julliet and Kate by whatever vision he's got, he gets too close to the fence and the electromagnetics turn on.......Smokie slams into the fence. Smokie's thinking "WTF?" for a sec. and he doesn't see Kate & Juliett anymore due to the Fence is on, he lets out a pissed off yelp and takes off. I would figure if he could see Kate & Juliett, and the fence "hurt" him. He would stay on the otherside of the fence and start smacking the fence at other spots to see if he can get through, instead of giving up so easily. Remeber what Smokie did at the plane with the Piliot? Couldn't get to the pilot inside the plane, so he shut up and stayed outside quietly waiting. Pilot sticks his head out, Smokie gets him! Smokie could probably see the piliot, just couldn't get to him until he stuck his head out. I think people can get through the fence if they're quick, I've watch Patchy die a bunch of times......looks like he deliberately stopped in the middle of the fence & turned around after he was shoved. Maybe Patchy is a cyborg with with some electronics in his head behind his eye patch, LOL.

You might have something with the Camoflague. Maybe Smokie is programed to kill anything that is Cilvilized such as humans. So Smokie has to figure out what is Human, and what is animal.....otherwise Smokie will be going around killing all the animals on the island, and since Smokie was probably made by those Hippy Dharma guys back in the 70's, killing animals or their animal experiements is a no no. So how does Smokie figure out what is human and what is animal? Perhaps getting muddied up in the dirt & mud will fool Smokie into thinking Juliett & Kate are just some filify apes. Perhaps the Others dress up like dirty savages outside of Otherville so Smokie would think they're Animals and not try to kill them. That would also explain why the Others are always sneaking around in the Jungle dressed as savages......animals don't roam around the forest like Military Commandos.....which the Others can easiy do if they wanted to.....since it looks like a portion of them are Ex-Military or Law Enforcement. It would make sense that the Others weren't ever dirty savages because how the heck would a bunch of dirty savages with spears & rocks defeat the Dharma Scientist who had guns. (Dharma had Dharma guns......Desmond's Pistol he was going to shoot himself with said Dharma on it). This would also explain why the Others had their fake "Savage" camp by the cliffs when they were fooling Michael into thinking they're Savages. Maybe it wasn't so much to make Michael think they were Savages, but they were also scared that Smokie would come get them. Everytime the Others are outside of Otherville, they look like Savages.

Episode 3x15 / Re: Can Juliet Be Trusted?
« on: April 06, 2007, 04:05:03 AM »
I think this is a play by the others to gain control of the Losties.  Juliet is the plant.  She will gain their trust by supposedly telling the truth.  Then she will suggest that they all move to the newly emptied Otherville.  When they all get there, the Others will turn on their microwave fence trapping them inside and change the code so that Juliet can't turn it off.  The Others will then be free to walk the island with Locke and Ben leading them to commune with it.

I don't know about the whole trapping the losties inside Otherville so that the Others will be free to do their stuff on the Island. What exactly is it that the Others can't do right now with the Losties on the Beach? The Losties aren't exactly wandering around the entire island, they seem pretty much confined to the beach. The Others can pretty much come into the Lostie's camp if they wanted to and do anything they want to the Losties.

It seems more that the Others don't want the Losties to learn info about them or maybe something else on the Island. They always seem to goto great extents to prevent the Losties from finding out stuff. But why? Morale Judgement? What do the others care what the Losties think of them or what they've done. No that's not it. Somehow the Losties are important to the Others, and somehow if the Losties learn too much it would mess things up. But for some reason or another the Others cannot use brute force to get what they want from the Losties......which leads to all the elborate manipulation attempts, which are a waste of time & resources.

The others have really sacrificed a lot to prevent the Losties to figure out stuff. Patch shot & killed  Ms Clue. They were willing to send Ethan (Their only good surgeon according to Ben) to infiltrate the Losties (What a dumb move tactically). Evacuate Otherville.......waste a bunch of Gas Grenades when they could have shoved the Losties in one room and threw one grenade in. I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting.

Episode 3x15 / Re: Locke's Behavior!
« on: April 05, 2007, 03:34:08 AM »
Locke's always hanging around with the wrong crowd. He was with those Grow-Op people getting them guns, and now he's with the Others.

Episode 3x15 / Re: Sawyer... Baby Daddy
« on: April 05, 2007, 02:50:15 AM »
Sawyer doesn't know how to con the other Losties into liking him and needs Hurley's Help? WTF?

Has Sawyer lost all his conning skills after he gave up on the Hyrda Station Island?

Episode 3x15 / Re: Smokie and the Fence
« on: April 05, 2007, 02:45:53 AM »
I think Smokie is a Dharma created thing. After all Dharma was experimenting with Ectromagnetism & Gene Splicing and such. The other just took Dharma's maybe they don't know what Smokie is.

The Flashes on Julliet's face......some sort of facial recognition system?

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