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Offline opgelost

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2009, 12:59:09 PM »
very funny, but if i hear the name esau one more time im going to explode.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2009, 01:03:25 PM »
I prefer to refer to him as "Loophole John"

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2009, 01:04:57 PM »
I prefer to refer to him as "Loophole John"


I would go with that, I would even go with Mr. Black for now, until we get an official name.


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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2009, 01:05:26 PM »
Love it or hate it, we are going to be hearing Esau, smokey, blackshirt, loophole john and other names being brandied about for the next 7 months! Esau will most likely be the most commonly used name, so let's all get used to it.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM »
Why the flip are we calling him Esau though? Just because of the name Jacob? Or is there something more that I'm missing. That is WAYYY too obvious for Lost. I think they might pull symbolism from the Jacob/Esau biblical account, but for it to actually BE that, nooo.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2009, 01:14:51 PM »
Like I said elsewhere. We gotta call him something. Mr. Black-shirt isn't that apealling to me. If we're wrong then we're wrong. Not a big deal. People called the statue the statue of Anubis forever too. That was wrong.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2009, 01:15:27 PM »
I doubt that his name will be Esau, I just need to call him something and it seems to upset a few people here so that's cool too. What's in a name really? Would a Henry Gale by any other name be just as sweet?

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2009, 01:19:05 PM »
I doubt that his name will be Esau, I just need to call him something and it seems to upset a few people here so that's cool too. What's in a name really? Would a Henry Gale by any other name be just as sweet?

That is true. We need a name to refer to the man who has an unknown name so that we all know who we're talking about. I just didn't understand WHY Esau was chosen, other then the name Jacob. But, whatever works, I suppose.

You know what irked me even more? "Benry"

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2009, 01:23:18 PM »
I doubt that his name will be Esau, I just need to call him something and it seems to upset a few people here so that's cool too. What's in a name really? Would a Henry Gale by any other name be just as sweet?

That is true. We need a name to refer to the man who has an unknown name so that we all know who we're talking about. I just didn't understand WHY Esau was chosen, other then the name Jacob. But, whatever works, I suppose.

You know what irked me even more? "Benry"
The only reason Esau was chosen was because of the biblical story of Isaac's (son of Abraham) sons Jacob and Esau. The conditions of the story closely reflect what we've seen between these two. I think we can safely assume that Mr. Blackshirt (just for you Jay lol) has been Smokey and the dark side all along. In the sotry Esau was the follower to Jacob. And Isaac, on his deathbed, made him swear not to kill or harm Jacob. Which is why I would say he wants to kill him but he can't. So he manipulates Ben all his life to do it.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2009, 01:25:01 PM »
Esau = Spiders that killed Nikki and Paulo.

Now the big question looms....how did those spiders die?

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2009, 01:26:29 PM »
IMDB affectionately refers to him as Man #2. So I'm all up for that. LOL, or maybe Deuce.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2009, 01:26:57 PM »
So... the opening scene. Jacob catches a fish. That fish was a herring. And it was RED! Just thought I'd share that lol.
I might add, Jacob offered him the food, and 'Esau' didn't take it. Perhaps he learned from his original mistake?  :D

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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 01:27:33 PM »
Esau = Spiders that killed Nikki and Paulo.

Now the big question looms....how did those spiders die?

Correction, Medusa=spiders that knocked Nikki and Paulo unconcious/into a coma, Sand=what killed nikki and paulo.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2009, 01:27:38 PM »
Exactly.

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Re: A red herring... litteraly!!
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2009, 01:28:14 PM »
lol Bob as technical as always.   :D