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Offline JMart

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but if esau took over locke's body....
« on: May 14, 2009, 02:11:53 AM »
how did he know that ben had killed locke?

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2009, 02:12:29 AM »
he orchestrated all of it.

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2009, 02:17:52 AM »
so you think we'll find out later what made ben want to kill locke so that he'd be dead for esau to take over?

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 02:22:26 AM »
I'm assuming he can absorb the identity and memories of whoever he takes over, unless there's still some bit of the real Locke left.

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 02:25:41 AM »
Starting to sound a whole lot like a bad comic book villain now. He is the new Amazo, he has Locke's schizophrenia, Alex's daddy issues and Christian's alcoholism.

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 03:51:44 AM »
how did he know that ben had killed locke?
Esau did say that Jacob brought the black rock to teh island...

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 03:58:37 AM »
You guys DID realize the irony and significance of Jacob and Esau Biblically, right?  They're brothers, they hate each other, Jacob cheats Esau out of his birthright, Esau brings and army to kill Jacob, then God ends up favoring Jacob anyway.....Just sayin'.

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 04:00:34 AM »
oh i got it ... 12 years of catholicism shovced down my throat will do that... but then that leave yet a bigger question... who is the LOST universe's "god"... vincent?

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 04:05:12 AM »
Hahahaha - maybe the Lost god is the Island - that would make sense.  But I would be SO MUCH more please if it ended up being Sawyer or even Walt.  Something off-the-wall would make me SO happy!!!

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 11:02:54 AM »
I'm assuming he can absorb the identity and memories of whoever he takes over, unless there's still some bit of the real Locke left.

I don't think so since he is not actually in Locke's body. He probably can just take his form and being some sort of God or whatever can access his memories as needed? Did we see any evidence of him using Locke's memories and experiences?

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 02:09:56 PM »
I think he absorbs dead souls on the island, maybe that is what the whispers are, the dead souls trying to escape his grasp

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2009, 02:16:26 PM »
and.... why is Locke's body still in the coffin?   Remember Christian's coffin was empty (of course the corpse could have fallen out or something in the crash), but still -

I guess we'd have to know if Esau is taking the form of the dead - or - actually takes over the body (which doesn't seem likely with Locke's corpse in Ilana's crate) - or - .....

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2009, 02:19:08 PM »
I'm assuming he can absorb the identity and memories of whoever he takes over, unless there's still some bit of the real Locke left.
Did we see any evidence of him using Locke's memories and experiences?

He did bring Richard back to fix John`s leg and tell him that he will have to return to the island and may die.  That origionally happened when John was flashing through time, and re-occured when John-Esau returned...

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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 01:31:41 AM »
Yeah, I take [Esau] to be some supreme being who exists outside of time and knows all things that happen to everyone.  If he's really Smokey and also all of the ghostly reincarnations then they all knew everything about the people being impersonated and also everything about the people being visited (even things that the real dead person wouldn't have known).


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Re: but if esau took over locke's body....
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 03:40:06 PM »
I am in the camp that says that Man 2 is Smokey, and smokey can read people's minds by scanning them, so that's probably how he knows everything that Locke knows.