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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 08:05:58 AM » |
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I have a feeling we'll find out next week how she knows what she knows. And I have the distinct feeling that its because Jacob, Jack & Kate tell her. LOL
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 08:42:27 AM » |
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What did she write in the front of the book? Something like if you remember anything, remember that I love you.... or something to that effect. Meaning, you may not remember anything else you read in this (already filled out) manuel, just remember I love you.
I believe the manual was already full of his (maybe some of her?) notes relating to time travel.
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I'm a substitute for another guy - The Who (or was it Locke?)
What Kate Did? What DIDN'T she do! I bring out the best in her.....
Sundown, you better take care. If I find you've been creeping 'round my back stairs.
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 09:35:23 AM » |
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Well, if you think about it, she gave him the book not long before he goes off on the freighter. he doesn't have a good memory then, so if he read the whole book he could have forgot it. but it seemed to me, (and i have posted this a few times in the beginning of the season) that he kept referring to the book at odd times, (like when Charlotte came over to give him a mango right before they were shot with flaming arrows). like it was a manual. it is very possible that he only read things right before they happened. step by step. until he went to Ann arbor and could read the whole thing. it's kind of hard to read a book while flashing through time and running from flaming arrows etc etc...
this is all maybes and could Be's. it's still early after the episode. so no kinks are worked out yet, really.
As I remember she gave him the notebook at the lunch after his graduation, He seemed pretty sane at that point, telling her she was very rude to teresa. |
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You're an idiot!! It doesnt work like that you can't change anything. Your maniac Iraqi buddy shot Linus that is what always happened it's just, we never experienced how it all turns out.
What's confusing about that??
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 09:54:14 AM » |
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I think she knows she is going to shoot him, and that she is "apologizing" to him; she wants him to "forgive" her for shooting him, since she loves him, but it has to be done (she thinks).
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 10:57:19 AM » |
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She is a strong believer in destiny and believes Dan's destiny is to go to the island and get shot by her.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 10:59:26 AM » |
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She is a strong believer in destiny and believes Dan's destiny is to go to the island and get shot by her.
Incidentally Griz, since your a hockey fan do you recognize Eloise from Youngblood with Rob lowe? |
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You're an idiot!! It doesnt work like that you can't change anything. Your maniac Iraqi buddy shot Linus that is what always happened it's just, we never experienced how it all turns out.
What's confusing about that??
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 11:01:28 AM » |
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She is a strong believer in destiny and believes Dan's destiny is to go to the island and get shot by her.
Incidentally Griz, since your a hockey fan do you recognize Eloise from Youngblood with Rob lowe? You know what? I've never seen it. But I guess I'll have to watch it now. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 11:09:10 AM » |
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Yeah, I guess they catch Jack and Kate and find out all about Daniel - that he's a physicist, that he went to Oxford, that he got on a freighter, and then she sets him up, just like he set up Desmond. Not sure how she knew about the guy with the shoes and about Desmond, but hopefully we'll find that out. And she probably knows everything up to this point. She knew Jack had to be on the island because she saw him, Kate also, maybe even Sayid. So that's why she says all of them have to get back. I think the '815 emulation' part was BS, just to convince them to go. She is certain that if things don't happen as they always happened the universe will collapse or something.
But if she doesn't know anything then why did he tell Desmond that the island is not done with him?
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Fighting time and talent with money is stupid, time and talent are infinite... money is not.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 11:13:28 AM » |
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Yeah, I guess they catch Jack and Kate and find out all about Daniel - that he's a physicist, that he went to Oxford, that he got on a freighter, and then she sets him up, just like he set up Desmond. Not sure how she knew about the guy with the shoes and about Desmond, but hopefully we'll find that out. And she probably knows everything up to this point. She knew Jack had to be on the island because she saw him, Kate also, maybe even Sayid. So that's why she says all of them have to get back. I think the '815 emulation' part was BS, just to convince them to go. She is certain that if things don't happen as they always happened the universe will collapse or something.
But if she doesn't know anything then why did he tell Desmond that the island is not done with him?
I would say because she remembers an interaction with him from the past as well. Same as she knew Dan had to go back, she probably knows Des will go back too. |
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 02:43:59 PM » |
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When I watched the scene with Eloise talking to Penny in the hospital, I got the distinct feeling that she was lying to Penny about the not knowing what's going to happen next bit. If you look at her face, she has a very worried look right up until the nurse comes in so Penny can go to the recovery room, and as soon as Mrs. Hawking is out of Penny's eyeline, for that quick second, she drops the worried face, and walks out. That's how I took it anyway.
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"So, go ahead and tighten those skull screws 2 Notches below excruciating, or else the power won't transfer to the drill."
God I Hate Michael So Much.
I danced a Jig when Michael Died, and again when Juliette hit bottom.
WTF Would Jesus Do??
I love validation.
NEPTUNE IS MY COPILOT!!!
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 02:49:34 PM » |
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when did Daniel figure out his mother was one of The Hostiles ?
Isn't it when he finds out about the H bomb? He says they call her Ellie and that he suspected it was his mother, didn't he? |
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 03:48:12 PM » |
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Eloise tells Desmond the island's not done with him yet. Desmond is hurt because Ben tried to kill Penny. Killing Penny was Ben's rule-breaking retaliation for Widmore breaking the rules the first time. So it looks like Eloise doesn't know what's going to happen because the rules have been broken again, no? According to what she knows, Desmond has more to do but hadn't been attacked by Ben, so now the "future" that she's expecting is in limbo.... Does that make sense? Still don't know what she knows or how she knows it though....
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 04:03:42 PM » |
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Daniel was also sitting in the van with Miles at the beginning of the show.
Dan was reading his little notebook. Miles asked, "Are you waiting for someone?"
Then Dr. Chang pulled up and Daniel said, "right on time."
it's as if a schedule or timeline of future events is written in the book.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 04:05:25 PM » |
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Daniel was also sitting in the van with Miles at the beginning of the show.
Dan was reading his little notebook. Miles asked, "Are you waiting for someone?"
Then Dr. Chang pulled up and Daniel said, "right on time."
it's as if a schedule or timeline of future events is written in the book.
This is what I've been saying for...a while. That all the information about their time in the DI is written in that notebook. |
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 05:06:21 PM » |
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Well, his little notebook failed to tell him about his getting shot in the back. Because he was obviously surprised. Although he shouldn't be, a man as smart as he was should have known going into a hostile camp waving an old burner as going to get him shot dead. It was basic mathematics, Daniel. Wasn't that your forte?
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I like to think of myself as a Jack/Desmond blend with a bit of Hurley and a twist of Miles.
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