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« Reply #75 on: April 22, 2009, 02:12:45 PM »

No, I'm talking about the Valenzetti equation nonsense. I am willing to accept that the numbers came from the Serial Number stamped onto hatch, I'm not happy about it, but willing to accept it. What I got so excited about there was that I was saying that some people avoid any information about LOST that isn't on the TV every Wednesday, and therefore, things like the Valenzetti equation shouldn't be considered cannon (canon??).

J.J. did this with that train wreck Cloverfield. He put all the backstory into the web promotions and ARG's. If you're like me, you avoided all the internet stuff so you wouldn't ruin it for yourself, and then when the movie came out, you had no idea what the story was. I just feel that if they want to use the Valenzetti stuff, put it on the show.
You didn't like Clvoerfield? I thought it was awesome. And I only read the backstory after I saw the movie. How did you see it? Theatre? Cause it was tough to see what was going on in the theatre. The second time I watched it I watched it on a 42" plasma and saw everything a lot better.

I did see it in a theatre, and that wasn't the problem. The thing is, when I first saw it, I was thinking it was an okay movie, and then the second time (with my other group of friends), I just realized that there was no story, no character development, nothing was resolved, nothing was explained. On top of that, the big secret about the Monster pissed me off. I waited so long to see what that stupid thing looked like, It was basically my main reason to see it because it was so secretive, and then the day after I saw it in the theatre, it was staring at me from my TV. Totally gay. All in all though, I just didn't see what the big deal was about. Although, the little scally monsters that came off of the big one were pretty freaking cool.
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« Reply #76 on: April 22, 2009, 02:15:03 PM »

Yeah I agree with you on the whole plot, nothing resolved, lame characters thing. I can see why people wouldnt like it. I just... I dunno... enjoyed it.
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« Reply #77 on: April 22, 2009, 02:15:46 PM »



No, I'm talking about the Valenzetti equation nonsense. I am willing to accept that the numbers came from the Serial Number stamped onto hatch, I'm not happy about it, but willing to accept it. What I got so excited about there was that I was saying that some people avoid any information about LOST that isn't on the TV every Wednesday, and therefore, things like the Valenzetti equation shouldn't be considered cannon (canon??).

J.J. did this with that train wreck Cloverfield. He put all the backstory into the web promotions and ARG's. If you're like me, you avoided all the internet stuff so you wouldn't ruin it for yourself, and then when the movie came out, you had no idea what the story was. I just feel that if they want to use the Valenzetti stuff, put it on the show.
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Just because the Valenzetti equation hasn't made it into to show yet doesn't mean that it won't.  I don't think that all the ARG and internet stuff is spoiling the experience of things like LOST and Cloverfield.  Just the opposite.  Those are things that are suppose to add the experience.  We are meant to go looking and find those things.  It's part of the story telling the JJ Abrams is trying to push.
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I'm not saying that it ruins or takes away from it at all, don't misunderstand me, but the fact of the matter is that the ARG's are suppossed to be done for fun. At the very most, they should peak the interest of the person into watching the show. What about the people who don't have an internet connection?? You're going to tell half of the story online, and leave those people out??
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« Reply #78 on: April 22, 2009, 02:17:42 PM »

What if they were to incorporate the internet stuff into the show later on? So... it's like a "sneak preview" for those who take the time (and have internet!)
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« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2009, 02:20:33 PM »

Yeah I agree with you on the whole plot, nothing resolved, lame characters thing. I can see why people wouldnt like it. I just... I dunno... enjoyed it.

If you enjoyed it, you enjoyed it. That's your thing, I just thought it was poorly marketed and delivered.

What if they were to incorporate the internet stuff into the show later on? So... it's like a "sneak preview" for those who take the time (and have internet!)

If they do, then that's great, but people have been spouting about the Valenzetti thing since S2 I think, and if they plan on getting it in, then they need to do it before next season starts. At least have it set up as something they will address next season. Like, maybe Jacob is Jacob Valenzetti.
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« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2009, 02:22:12 PM »

Enzo Valenzetti.
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« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2009, 02:23:35 PM »

Enzo Valenzetti.

Robert Whelner. See, I can just say people's names too.
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« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2009, 02:25:54 PM »

Enzo Valenzetti.

Robert Whelner. See, I can just say people's names too.
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« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2009, 02:28:09 PM »

Enzo Valenzetti.

Robert Whelner. See, I can just say people's names too.

You could read lostpedia and know more about the numbers. You have internet.
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« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2009, 02:30:20 PM »

What if they were to incorporate the internet stuff into the show later on? So... it's like a "sneak preview" for those who take the time (and have internet!)

Yes.  That is more or less where I stand on the matter.  The internet stuff can be canon (cannon?  I'm just as confused on that as you are Bob)  and it won't ruin anything for those who just watch the show.  The internet findings are just little teasers of what is to come.  Like the fake website that followed the story of the orangutan that was under experiments to extend its life. Then later we find out that the island holds somekind of secret of long life via Richard.  I guess I did misunderstand your other post, though, Bob.  Sorry about that.
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« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2009, 03:20:23 PM »

You want math?
http://www.marianotomatis.it/index.php?id=blog&section=autoreferenza&url=20071224



No, I'm talking about the Valenzetti equation nonsense. I am willing to accept that the numbers came from the Serial Number stamped onto hatch, I'm not happy about it, but willing to accept it. What I got so excited about there was that I was saying that some people avoid any information about LOST that isn't on the TV every Wednesday, and therefore, things like the Valenzetti equation shouldn't be considered cannon (canon??).

J.J. did this with that train wreck Cloverfield. He put all the backstory into the web promotions and ARG's. If you're like me, you avoided all the internet stuff so you wouldn't ruin it for yourself, and then when the movie came out, you had no idea what the story was. I just feel that if they want to use the Valenzetti stuff, put it on the show.

I agree 100%.   Looking at stuff on the web can be fun, but anything we need to know to appreciate the story should be in the show!
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« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2009, 03:24:57 PM »

Since y'all have asked nicely:  canon is the word you are looking for, unless you mean big guns; those are cannon.
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« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2009, 04:16:22 PM »

Enzo Valenzetti.

Robert Whelner. See, I can just say people's names too.

You could read lostpedia and know more about the numbers. You have internet.

Right, I understand that, you understand that, but I don't accept them as canon (Thanks Nova) because they are not on the show, and if they plan on ending the show without explaining on air what the numbers mean, well that's just unacceptable.

Since y'all have asked nicely:  canon is the word you are looking for, unless you mean big guns; those are cannon.
Bob, you are such a smart@$$, and I mean that in a good way; you crack me up sometimes. 

Oh, I'm a total smart ass.
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« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2009, 05:04:37 PM »

In any case, I don't think they are done with the numbers yet. I think there is still more to reveal. But, if they don't actually tie the Valenzetti business into the show, I don't think it will be that big of a deal to the viewer. The extra stuff is exactly that. Like, nobody could actually think that its just a serial number by now could they? There have been way too many examples of their use. But even if we don't find out for sure in the show that it has to do with the Valenzetti equation specifically, it still won't make a difference to our story. The online content is probably there for the geeks like us who have the time, and means, to search it out.
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« Reply #89 on: April 23, 2009, 10:47:35 AM »

Just to clarify: I think there is sometihing more esoteric to the numbers than just the hatch id.
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