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Offline MachThree

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Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« on: April 11, 2009, 09:11:57 PM »
The first time Ben summoned Smokey, in Season 4, he emerged from the Ben Cave looking, well, rather charred - as if he'd just been through the fires of hell, or immersed in a cloud of smoke.  This time, nothing of the sort.  What gives? 

In any case, I now leave you with the lyrics to an old song by the group ABC, entitled "When Smokey Sings"... probably no relation at all to Lost, but what the heck...

Debonair lullabies in melodies revealed

In deep despair on lonely nights

He knows just how you feel

The slyest rhymes - the sharpest suits

In miracles made real


Like a bird in flight on a hot sweet night

You know youre right just to hold her tight

He soothes it right - makes it outtasite

And everythings good in the world tonight!


When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

The front door might slam

But the back door it rings

And smokey sings...he sings


Elegance in eloquence - for sale or rent or hire

Should I say - yes I match his best

Then I would be a liar

Symphonies that soothe the rage

When lovers hearts catch fire


Like a bird in flight on a hot sweet night

You know youre right just to hold her tight

He soothes it right - makes it outtasite

And everythings good in the world tonight!


When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

Smashing the hell

With the heaven she brings

Then smokey sings...he sings


Luther croons

Slys the original - originator

James screams

Marvin was the only innovator

But nothing can compare

Nothing can compare

When smokey sings


When smokey sings - I hear violins

When smokey sings - I forget everything

As shes packing her things

As shes spreading her wings

She threw back the ring

When smokey sings...

Smokey sings...

Smokey sings...

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 11:04:54 PM »
What the heck are you talking about?

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2009, 11:37:03 PM »
Good question that no one can probably answer.  Hopefully we'll learn more on the show.

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 02:15:01 AM »
There is something of an inconsistency, no doubt. First time around Ben went into the tunnel and was gone for quite a bit. When he finally emerged he was all dirty (and a little bloody, maybe?) and had a look as if he had just had to break in and out of hell itself. This time around he went down a very small --dare I say it?-- rabbit hole and pulled a plug on the toilet phone.

I just repeated what the topic creator said without even noticing. Ugh. How do I delete my post?

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 03:00:50 AM »
It took me years to forget that song.   Now I won't be able to get it out of my head.  Thanks a bunch, MachThree.

One big difference in the two summonings.  The first time he was successful in bringing Smokey to avenge Alex.  The second time he was unsuccessful and had to rely on Locke to find Smokey.  Motives for summoning were different both times also.

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 06:53:32 AM »
Having watched his daughter get shot in the head before summoning Smokey the first time might have had something to do with it.

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 12:06:43 PM »
Well, perhaps because he left Smokey finds him insignificant.  Perhaps Ben's fall from grace does not give him the right to call Smokey.


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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 10:28:27 AM »
Looks similiar to me.  These are from lost-media.com:

The Shape of Things To Come:


Dead is Dead:



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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 04:41:18 PM »
Looks similiar to me.  These are from lost-media.com:

The Shape of Things To Come:


Dead is Dead:




Almost the exact same shirt. LOL

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 05:01:48 PM »
His hair got a little crazier the first time, lol...but he seems dirtier the first time, too. Maybe now that he knows how to do it, he can make less a mess of himself the second time.

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 10:17:19 PM »
I like the "Flock of Seagulls" thing that he had going on

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 12:47:45 PM »
I like the "Flock of Seagulls" thing that he had going on

LOL!  :D

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2009, 12:54:05 PM »
So, what exactly was the point of this thread though?? What is the question at hand??

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 05:28:01 PM »
maybe Ben is smokey.......BECAUSE BEN IS SMOKEY!!!!!

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Re: Inconsistency summoning Ole Smokey?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2009, 05:29:16 PM »
I , for one, now that the game is afoot, would love to know the question at hand!!!