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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2009, 03:06:13 PM »
Maybe he will see through the games, but I don't know if he is on the good side.
Widmore wants Locke on the island. Ben killed Locke and planned to kill him again, Ben
didn't want him on the island, he wants him dead.
Widmore and Ben are enemies.

So if Locke is good, Widmore is good too.
Or Widmore is bad and uses Locke, but you think Locke will see through that.
And I read that a lot of people think Ben finally will be the good one.

Locke is good = Widmore is good = Ben is bad.
Ben is good = Widmore is bad = Locke can't be trusted.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2009, 03:14:07 PM »
I think it can still be Widmore=Bad and Locke=Good.

Widmore wants Locke on the island for his own agenda, which as far as we know now, is bad.  However, this does not make Locke bad.  Ben was very surprised to see Locke alive.  I think Ben underestimated just how important Locke is to the island.  I think that Widmore can be making the same mistake.  He may be thinking that if Locke goes back to the island then he can reach is evil goal, but if he is in fact underestimating Locke, then it is easy to see that Locke can look past Widmore's games.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2009, 03:26:56 PM »
I don't think Widmore underestimates Locke like Ben does.
He saw him in 1954, he said the island needed Locke for a long time
and he is the one who through Abbadon put Locke on the first flight,
the Oceanic flight.
Why does he want him on the island again? Locke on the island for his own agenda
didn't work the first time. Locke did everything so that Widmore's freighter couldn't
reach the island. He killed Naomi.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2009, 06:34:51 PM »
Widmore planted a tracking device in Locke after he was snatched from the desert so that he could find the island again... DUN DUN DUN!

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2009, 11:21:08 AM »
I hope Ben will not, because I don't trust Locke.

Wow.  Just wow.  Why in the world do you not trust Locke?  He's practically the ruling hero of Lost right now.

Sorry, Laklost. He is on the dark side.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2009, 02:02:54 PM »
I hope Ben will not, because I don't trust Locke.

Wow.  Just wow.  Why in the world do you not trust Locke?  He's practically the ruling hero of Lost right now.

Sorry, Laklost. He is on the dark side.

Wow, no kidding.  But in all fairness to Laklost and her feelings on Locke, he has only been bad Locke sinse coming back to the island.  And I would argue that the Locke we see right now isn't even really Locke.  So I would still say that Laklost is right about Locke.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2009, 03:08:36 PM »
I hope Ben will not, because I don't trust Locke.

Wow.  Just wow.  Why in the world do you not trust Locke?  He's practically the ruling hero of Lost right now.

Sorry, Laklost. He is on the dark side.

Wow, no kidding.  But in all fairness to Laklost and her feelings on Locke, he has only been bad Locke sinse coming back to the island.  And I would argue that the Locke we see right now isn't even really Locke.  So I would still say that Laklost is right about Locke.

Technically not though, because he's dead. LOL

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2009, 03:18:44 PM »
I hope Ben will not, because I don't trust Locke.

Wow.  Just wow.  Why in the world do you not trust Locke?  He's practically the ruling hero of Lost right now.

Sorry, Laklost. He is on the dark side.

Wow, no kidding.  But in all fairness to Laklost and her feelings on Locke, he has only been bad Locke sinse coming back to the island.  And I would argue that the Locke we see right now isn't even really Locke.  So I would still say that Laklost is right about Locke.

Technically not though, because he's dead. LOL

Good point :)

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2009, 07:50:49 PM »
I think the question is will Ben abide by Alex's wishes?  Smokey is a guard dog - Cerberus.  Who really has the power over Ben's life?  Locke and Alex.  The undead.  I do not think Alex is undead like Locke is.  Locke is resurrected.  Alex was a vision.  Ben has finally met his comeuppance.  I thought he underwent a sea change. 

The really interesting question now is how will the past be rectified?  If Ben won't cause the Purge to happen, who will?  Or will it even happen?  The questions get more and more interesting.
No Locke's body was inhabited.  Ben was manipulated ;D 
Oddly enough Locke went away while Alex stood there in flesh again, like Christian etc. ;D

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2009, 09:46:26 PM »
Ben seemed to be okay with it, I know he was manipulated, but it seems fitting with his new mindset.

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2009, 10:19:09 PM »
I hope Ben will not, because I don't trust Locke.

Wow.  Just wow.  Why in the world do you not trust Locke?  He's practically the ruling hero of Lost right now.

Sorry, Laklost. He is on the dark side.

The real Locke is dead as a door nail.  That kind of excuses him from the judgment.  Ben killed him in cold blood, just like he killed Jacob in cold blood.  If you all think the "dark" side gets the final word, then why is there a sixth season?

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Re: Will Ben abide by Smokey's wishes?
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2009, 11:33:50 PM »
Oh No why do we think killing Jacob is a bad thing?  What makes that the dark side besides the color of the shirt.

It is not easy being an Other :)