Des and Penny Live

[AloeSPF80]

I was truly hating Ben this season thinking that he murdered Des and Penny while at the marina.  I always thought he was beat up and bloodied from a confrontation with Des, but to see Des kick Ben off the dock made me so happy.

[jamesl]

but that leads us to the question,
why is Des alive ?
Ben shot him in the chest, Des was hit, he went down
how is he able to get up and go fight Ben ?

are we supposed to believe Ben just shot Des in the arm or something ?

or is the island keeping Des alive the way it kept Micheal alive ?

[Schmokey]

As most of you, I had assumed that when Ben was covered in blood before the flight that he had murdered Penny.  Now it looks like the happy family unit remains intact. 
Or does it?   I need help remembering the timeline.  Wasn't it night when they all met at the church looking for Eloise?  So did the beating happen earlier the same day?  I know we saw Ben on the phone, beat & bloody - wasn't that right before the flight (and after he sent Jack to pick up Locke in the casket?)   I don't trust my memory; someone please help. 

[taki1379]

locke called jack the next morning (after the night meeting) and said he had to tie up some loose ends.

[grizn0]

I didn't really get that he hit him in the chest. The grocery bag he was holding blew up yeah, but he was kind of holding it to the side. I never thought for a second Desmond was dead.

[Lost In NH]

Right before they left the church Ben told Jack he'd meet him at the airport, then the next morning, he called Jack and he was all beat up.  So he must have attempted to kill Penny the morning after being in the Lamp Post.

[jamesl]

locke called jack the next morning (after the night meeting) and said he had to tie up some loose ends.

Ben called jack  ...

[Lost In NH]

Des is really glad he bought that family size mayo to deflect the bullet!

[losttill0208]

The night at the church, Ben told Jack he had to tie up some loose ends.. then the next day he called Jack all bloodied up asking him to pick Locke up..

[Schmokey]

thanks, that makes sense.   It's coming back to me a little now.

[LockedInLost]

I think most people knew Des was going to shake the vegetables off and go ape poop on Ben.

[lovinlost]

Desmond either knew that Ben was going to come after Penny, or he was somehow saved by the island.  The rules don't apply to him, remember?

I just really wish they would give us some more clues as to just HOW the rules don't apply...like which rules, what the rules are, where they work, and who they apply to?  You know, just to start...

[jamesl]

...I just really wish they would give us some more clues as to just HOW the rules don't apply...like which rules, what the rules are, where they work, and who they apply to?  You know, just to start...

so ... you're saying the island is like a woman ?

[Gar O Mac]

...I just really wish they would give us some more clues as to just HOW the rules don't apply...like which rules, what the rules are, where they work, and who they apply to?  You know, just to start...

so ... you're saying the island is like a woman ?

I'd hate to see smokey at that time of the month!

[jphimself]

When Ben showed up at the Marina and called Widmore, I said to my wife that I hoped Des would be the one who beat the snot out of Ben.  But that was just the sentimental side of me.

I couldn't be happier about this development.  There's no way TPTB could have killed off Penny or Des without a massive revolt from fans.  This is much more satisfying.

One question remains.  Ben said someone else had injured his arm and it was apparently not Des, at least not based on what we've seen so far.  Was Ben in another fight before he got to the plane?