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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2009, 11:50:45 AM » |
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But, it isn't just Sawyer and Jin. There's also Jack, Kate and Hurley. Hurley being the person he'd most want to join again. I don't see him wanting to be alone because then what? He'd be stuck on the island forever without the help of someone. Remember, he didn't choose to return to the island.. this was thrust upon him through the capture by the bounty hunter.
Old-school Sayid would totally want to help Hurley. But this episode was really a turning point in Sayid's character: he has come to accept why he has returned to the island, he has learned to embrace his nature, that of a killer. Kate, Jack, and Hurley have been assimilated into the DI...why would Sayid think they were any different from Sawyer or Jin? Sayid evolved in this episode (awesome camera work too, I just have to say), and I don't think he's going to go back to cuddly, friendly Iraqi anytime soon. Sawyer and Jin have been there 3yrs... Kate, Jack and Hurley just arrived. They're still extremely new to the DI.. bonds wouldn't have been created yet. We're talking about mere days here. Sayid shouldn't think that they're beyond approach already. Shouldn't is the key word there. When people snap, they snap.theres no coming back once youve jumped off the deep end!
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2009, 11:51:41 AM » |
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But, it isn't just Sawyer and Jin. There's also Jack, Kate and Hurley. Hurley being the person he'd most want to join again. I don't see him wanting to be alone because then what? He'd be stuck on the island forever without the help of someone. Remember, he didn't choose to return to the island.. this was thrust upon him through the capture by the bounty hunter.
Old-school Sayid would totally want to help Hurley. But this episode was really a turning point in Sayid's character: he has come to accept why he has returned to the island, he has learned to embrace his nature, that of a killer. Kate, Jack, and Hurley have been assimilated into the DI...why would Sayid think they were any different from Sawyer or Jin? Sayid evolved in this episode (awesome camera work too, I just have to say), and I don't think he's going to go back to cuddly, friendly Iraqi anytime soon. Sawyer and Jin have been there 3yrs... Kate, Jack and Hurley just arrived. They're still extremely new to the DI.. bonds wouldn't have been created yet. We're talking about mere days here. Sayid shouldn't think that they're beyond approach already. Shouldn't is the key word there. When people snap, they snap. Oh, stop it already.LOL
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2009, 11:53:23 AM » |
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Does Sayid know for sure that Kate etc. have only been there a few days? Would he assume that they all arrived at the same time back on the island? I don't know. He sees them at the welcome ceremony, but who knows what he thought. They could have been there for a long time and were welcoming new recruits themselves.
I don't remember if he talked to any of them, besides Sawyer and Jin...??
Anyway, all I'm saying is that, because nobody freaking talks on this show, Sayid doesn't know anything. Anything. He has to make a lot of assumptions.
I think it's reasonable for Sayid to assume they are in the same time. He wasn't part of the time shifts so he doesn't have a reason to believe that they have been on the island longer than him.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2009, 11:56:37 AM » |
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But, it isn't just Sawyer and Jin. There's also Jack, Kate and Hurley. Hurley being the person he'd most want to join again. I don't see him wanting to be alone because then what? He'd be stuck on the island forever without the help of someone. Remember, he didn't choose to return to the island.. this was thrust upon him through the capture by the bounty hunter.
Old-school Sayid would totally want to help Hurley. But this episode was really a turning point in Sayid's character: he has come to accept why he has returned to the island, he has learned to embrace his nature, that of a killer. Kate, Jack, and Hurley have been assimilated into the DI...why would Sayid think they were any different from Sawyer or Jin? Sayid evolved in this episode (awesome camera work too, I just have to say), and I don't think he's going to go back to cuddly, friendly Iraqi anytime soon. Sawyer and Jin have been there 3yrs... Kate, Jack and Hurley just arrived. They're still extremely new to the DI.. bonds wouldn't have been created yet. We're talking about mere days here. Sayid shouldn't think that they're beyond approach already. Shouldn't is the key word there. When people snap, they snap. Oh, stop it already.LOL What?? that's a totally valid point. I don't know how you interpreted it, but when Sayid shot Ben, he had a look on his face of severe craziness. And, as I said, when people lose their connection to their own mind, that's it. It's all over. Does Sayid know for sure that Kate etc. have only been there a few days? Would he assume that they all arrived at the same time back on the island? I don't know. He sees them at the welcome ceremony, but who knows what he thought. They could have been there for a long time and were welcoming new recruits themselves.
I don't remember if he talked to any of them, besides Sawyer and Jin...??
Anyway, all I'm saying is that, because nobody freaking talks on this show, Sayid doesn't know anything. Anything. He has to make a lot of assumptions.
I think it's reasonable for Sayid to assume they are in the same time. He wasn't part of the time shifts so he doesn't have a reason to believe that they have been on the island longer than him. I have to agree. They were on the same plane, and now they are back on the same island.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2009, 11:57:37 AM » |
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I think it's reasonable for Sayid to assume they are in the same time. He wasn't part of the time shifts so he doesn't have a reason to believe that they have been on the island longer than him.
Alright...Sayid can have one reasonable assumption, but I'm willing to bet he's making a whole bunch more unreasonable assumptions.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2009, 12:06:35 PM » |
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I think it's reasonable for Sayid to assume they are in the same time. He wasn't part of the time shifts so he doesn't have a reason to believe that they have been on the island longer than him.
Alright...Sayid can have one reasonable assumption, but I'm willing to bet he's making a whole bunch more unreasonable assumptions. LMAO... too funny.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2009, 12:09:48 PM » |
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But, it isn't just Sawyer and Jin. There's also Jack, Kate and Hurley. Hurley being the person he'd most want to join again. I don't see him wanting to be alone because then what? He'd be stuck on the island forever without the help of someone. Remember, he didn't choose to return to the island.. this was thrust upon him through the capture by the bounty hunter.
Old-school Sayid would totally want to help Hurley. But this episode was really a turning point in Sayid's character: he has come to accept why he has returned to the island, he has learned to embrace his nature, that of a killer. Kate, Jack, and Hurley have been assimilated into the DI...why would Sayid think they were any different from Sawyer or Jin? Sayid evolved in this episode (awesome camera work too, I just have to say), and I don't think he's going to go back to cuddly, friendly Iraqi anytime soon. Sawyer and Jin have been there 3yrs... Kate, Jack and Hurley just arrived. They're still extremely new to the DI.. bonds wouldn't have been created yet. We're talking about mere days here. Sayid shouldn't think that they're beyond approach already. Shouldn't is the key word there. When people snap, they snap. Oh, stop it already.LOL What?? that's a totally valid point. I don't know how you interpreted it, but when Sayid shot Ben, he had a look on his face of severe craziness. And, as I said, when people lose their connection to their own mind, that's it. It's all over. I was just kidding since you and I usually seem to be debating (even when it's the same opinion LOL). Honestly though, I don't recall Sayid looking crazy. I thought he just accepted who he was, what he must do and did what he felt he had to do.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2009, 12:11:13 PM » |
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If his purpose was to shoot Ben, than the island should be done with him and he dies.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2009, 12:15:24 PM » |
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I think it's reasonable for Sayid to assume they are in the same time. He wasn't part of the time shifts so he doesn't have a reason to believe that they have been on the island longer than him.
Alright...Sayid can have one reasonable assumption, but I'm willing to bet he's making a whole bunch more unreasonable assumptions. LMAO... too funny. tee hee...it's funny cause it's true, and we all know it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2009, 12:16:01 PM » |
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If his purpose was to shoot Ben, than the island should be done with him and he dies.
If it's the island's purpose.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2009, 12:17:40 PM » |
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If his purpose was to shoot Ben, than the island should be done with him and he dies.
If it's the island's purpose. I was just going to say this. Sayid thinks it's his purpose. Heck I even think it's his purpose. I just don't want him to die, that's all. 
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2009, 12:39:33 PM » |
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But, it isn't just Sawyer and Jin. There's also Jack, Kate and Hurley. Hurley being the person he'd most want to join again. I don't see him wanting to be alone because then what? He'd be stuck on the island forever without the help of someone. Remember, he didn't choose to return to the island.. this was thrust upon him through the capture by the bounty hunter.
Old-school Sayid would totally want to help Hurley. But this episode was really a turning point in Sayid's character: he has come to accept why he has returned to the island, he has learned to embrace his nature, that of a killer. Kate, Jack, and Hurley have been assimilated into the DI...why would Sayid think they were any different from Sawyer or Jin? Sayid evolved in this episode (awesome camera work too, I just have to say), and I don't think he's going to go back to cuddly, friendly Iraqi anytime soon. Sawyer and Jin have been there 3yrs... Kate, Jack and Hurley just arrived. They're still extremely new to the DI.. bonds wouldn't have been created yet. We're talking about mere days here. Sayid shouldn't think that they're beyond approach already. Shouldn't is the key word there. When people snap, they snap. Oh, stop it already.LOL What?? that's a totally valid point. I don't know how you interpreted it, but when Sayid shot Ben, he had a look on his face of severe craziness. And, as I said, when people lose their connection to their own mind, that's it. It's all over. I was just kidding since you and I usually seem to be debating (even when it's the same opinion LOL). Honestly though, I don't recall Sayid looking crazy. I thought he just accepted who he was, what he must do and did what he felt he had to do. LOL, We really need to figure out a system here. Like I said though, I didn't know how you saw it...now I do.
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"So, go ahead and tighten those skull screws 2 Notches below excruciating, or else the power won't transfer to the drill."
God I Hate Michael So Much.
I danced a Jig when Michael Died, and again when Juliette hit bottom.
WTF Would Jesus Do??
I love validation.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2009, 12:41:58 PM » |
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I think Sayid looked effected by having to shoot Ben, but I don't know if it was craziness or sadness or what.
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2009, 12:44:00 PM » |
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I think Sayid looked effected by having to shoot Ben, but I don't know if it was craziness or sadness or what.
I guess I'm sort of chalking up the fact that shooting a kid would take a little bit of crazy, and throwing in the look in Sayid's eye.
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"So, go ahead and tighten those skull screws 2 Notches below excruciating, or else the power won't transfer to the drill."
God I Hate Michael So Much.
I danced a Jig when Michael Died, and again when Juliette hit bottom.
WTF Would Jesus Do??
I love validation.
NEPTUNE IS MY COPILOT!!!
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2009, 12:45:36 PM » |
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I think Sayid looked effected by having to shoot Ben, but I don't know if it was craziness or sadness or what.
I guess I'm sort of chalking up the fact that shooting a kid would take a little bit of crazy, and throwing in the look in Sayid's eye. Yeah, there was definitely something there. And it wasn't the googly-eyes he gives his lady friends....which is the only other look he has, really.
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